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riceroni
Ottawa Senators
Location: e5, ON
Joined: 07.29.2009

Dec 8 @ 1:41 PM ET
Second hand information - but that Ray Shero has been around the city quite a bit lately, and Bylsma was his coach in PIT. Shero was essentially fired because he stood behind Bylsma and wouldn't fire him.

That would mean Richardson would be stuck in Bingo and might eventually leave the organization if he doesn't see a fit in the near future.

- JaredCrozier

Give it two years and we'd need a new coach... Richardson can wait it out...
JS_19
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 12.23.2011

Dec 8 @ 1:41 PM ET
I can understand why the guys upstairs did this, none of us see eye to eye with some of his moves and ice time. We are losing tons of games by one goal. Put the right players on the ice and we might be winning those games by one goal. Zack Smith love can come to a end now. Looks like Zibby Ryan Hoffman line is looking like our number one line now. Let Lazar play world jr and give Paque some much deserved NHL games.
tuna99
Joined: 05.25.2009

Dec 8 @ 1:41 PM ET
Second hand information - but that Ray Shero has been around the city quite a bit lately, and Bylsma was his coach in PIT. Shero was essentially fired because he stood behind Bylsma and wouldn't fire him.

That would mean Richardson would be stuck in Bingo and might eventually leave the organization if he doesn't see a fit in the near future.

- JaredCrozier


if they are putting Cameron in charge they must be kissing the playoffs goodbey - is this an admission that they suck? I just don't see him making a change when he's been part of the problem.

The Shero/Bysl,a seems to cookie cutter of an outcome and I hope it doesn't happen, Maclean's comments about being afraid of his own players is total BS so I;m hoping for all new blood

I imagine the Sens have a plan to get some guys in here - Simpson is saying Brent Flahr and Richardsoon with his own assistants which would be nice.

I really think Alfie is staying away until the BS on the team is all cleared up adn the team can start over

vancity787
Vancouver Canucks
Location: My Parents Basement, BC
Joined: 07.14.2008

Dec 8 @ 1:47 PM ET
Mclean has to be considered one of, if not the best coach the Sens ever had.

There has to be some behind closd doors shyt going on

Paul Mclean is fired and every single member of oilers management and coaching staff still have a job?

After a 4 goal comeback win?

Somethings not adding up.....
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Dec 8 @ 1:49 PM ET
Granted I don't have the opportunity to watch a lot of Sens games, but I've always felt the Sens seemed to be a well coached team. With some of the other headwinds your team has dealt with, I'm not sure this is the right move. JMO....
TheCalSen
Ottawa Senators
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 05.07.2014

Dec 8 @ 1:50 PM ET
Mclean has to be considered one of, if not the best coach the Sens ever had.

There has to be some behind closd doors shyt going on

Paul Mclean is fired and every single member of oilers management and coaching staff still have a job?

After a 4 goal comeback win?

Somethings not adding up.....

- vancity787


What you don't know is that this decisions was pending after last years collapse. They gave him a second chance, he failed.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Dec 8 @ 1:54 PM ET
Give Torts a try. At least it will be entertaining.
bazookajo1
Location: land of the Blackberry
Joined: 06.24.2011

Dec 8 @ 1:55 PM ET
fire murray
- the_cause2000

only Bobby Clarke would do that!!
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

Dec 8 @ 1:56 PM ET
Does this mean his look alike behind the players bench in the crowd got fired too? Or is that the real coach and they switched places? #twilightzone
the_terror
Boston Bruins
Location: ON
Joined: 07.20.2009

Dec 8 @ 1:56 PM ET
Mclean has to be considered one of, if not the best coach the Sens ever had.

There has to be some behind closd doors shyt going on

Paul Mclean is fired and every single member of oilers management and coaching staff still have a job?

After a 4 goal comeback win?

Somethings not adding up.....

- vancity787


He's the third best coach the team ever had.

Jacques Martin and Bryan Murray are 1-2.

And I agree with Crozier, the decision to do this was coming before last night's game, regardless of the outcome.

The idea that Ray Shero might be involved in the future of the team is intriguing. He's already worked in the Senators front office for 5-6 years, so he's got some experience with the organization. I also actually wouldn't mind having Bylsma involved with the team. Frankly, I'm surprised he hasn't found a job yet. The only caveat I'd be concerned with is that you're likely to see Todd McLellan become available shortly, Babcock might not resign in Detroit. Bylsma is absolutely a quality coach, but wouldn't you rather interview a couple other top coaches before deciding so quickly.

Cameron is a decent stopgap, let's see how he does. But yeah, Ray Shero does make sense.
saskoil21
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.09.2009

Dec 8 @ 1:57 PM ET
Mclean has to be considered one of, if not the best coach the Sens ever had.

There has to be some behind closd doors shyt going on

Paul Mclean is fired and every single member of oilers management and coaching staff still have a job?

After a 4 goal comeback win?

Somethings not adding up.....

- vancity787


Likely BJs... he wasnt as good as Kevin and Craig in the BJ dept... Either that or the Oiler brass have a sex tape...
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Dec 8 @ 1:57 PM ET
I bet dorsett would love to play under neil
- nightmare3020

We could try just burning him down.
SensnRBs
Ottawa Senators
Location: it ain't cheatin' if ur wife is watching, ON
Joined: 04.03.2014

Dec 8 @ 1:58 PM ET
Second hand information - but that Ray Shero has been around the city quite a bit lately, and Bylsma was his coach in PIT. Shero was essentially fired because he stood behind Bylsma and wouldn't fire him.

That would mean Richardson would be stuck in Bingo and might eventually leave the organization if he doesn't see a fit in the near future.

- JaredCrozier



I saw a snipit of the Ray Shero to replace BM idea last week, but felt weird in commenting on talking about his replacement...

But now that they have fired Maclean it could fall into place..... Shero (an ex Senator protege) and `his` coach Blysma.

I dont claim to know enough about Blysma to know if he would work well in Ottawa, but this scenario does seem to fit
maaddmike
Joined: 08.08.2006

Dec 8 @ 1:58 PM ET
I suggested the Shero/Bylsma combo about a week ago when talk of Murray doing GM succession planning first surfaced.
Jordo
Ottawa Senators
Location: 40 minute busride from downtow, ON
Joined: 06.27.2007

Dec 8 @ 2:00 PM ET
Au revoir, coach #9
- lumlums


The only relevant number is 18.

Which of course is the number, in millions, of cap space the organization has available.


Oh, and the team is over 500....


I'm not saying MacLean was devoid of a few strange decisions...but his hands are fairly tied with the roster in front of him..
SuperHenderson13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.13.2008

Dec 8 @ 2:02 PM ET
He's the third best coach the team ever had.

Jacques Martin and Bryan Murray are 1-2.

And I agree with Crozier, the decision to do this was coming before last night's game, regardless of the outcome.

The idea that Ray Shero might be involved in the future of the team is intriguing. He's already worked in the Senators front office for 5-6 years, so he's got some experience with the organization. I also actually wouldn't mind having Bylsma involved with the team. Frankly, I'm surprised he hasn't found a job yet. The only caveat I'd be concerned with is that you're likely to see Todd McLellan become available shortly, Babcock might not resign in Detroit. Bylsma is absolutely a quality coach, but wouldn't you rather interview a couple other top coaches before deciding so quickly.

Cameron is a decent stopgap, let's see how he does. But yeah, Ray Shero does make sense.

- the_terror

Trust me, you won't be saying that after 2-3 years into his hire.
the_terror
Boston Bruins
Location: ON
Joined: 07.20.2009

Dec 8 @ 2:03 PM ET
Trust me, you won't be saying that after 2-3 years into his hire.
- SuperHenderson13


Maybe so, but I do think they're still after an interim solution while the team grows up. So 2-3 years might be all they're looking for from the next coach anyways.
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Dec 8 @ 2:05 PM ET
The only relevant number is 18.

Which of course is the number, in millions, of cap space the organization has available.


Oh, and the team is over 500....


I'm not saying MacLean was devoid of a few strange decisions...but his hands are fairly tied with the roster in front of him..

- Jordo


Sadly for you guys, the available cap space is significantly higher than the available funds.

Firing the guy coaching the (owner mandated) cheapest team in the league is very much akin to firing the manager of a soup kitchen because they're not serving prime rib. Given how the results are going, I'm a little bit perplexed by the decision, and it is likely not one made solely by the team;s on-ice performance. I'm sure that many others would be able to elaborate on that more than I...
SuperHenderson13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.13.2008

Dec 8 @ 2:07 PM ET
Maybe so, but I do think they're still after an interim solution while the team grows up. So 2-3 years might be all they're looking for from the next coach anyways.
- the_terror

Bylsma isnt the coach you hire if you want to rebuild and get your young guys in the lineup.

He favors veterans because he used to be one. He rarely plays young guys and when he does he has a very long memory with them whenever they screw up.

He has kept Simon Despres buried in the AHL for years and this year he is up playing quality minutes and performing well.

Trust me, save yourselves a lot of anger and frustration.

I have nothing bad to say about Shero besides his drafting.
tuna99
Joined: 05.25.2009

Dec 8 @ 2:08 PM ET
also, it seems ever since Murray made the "disturbing" comments it seems the players kinda have been playing on pins and needle - lot's of blame to go around
BodyCheckRadio
Joined: 10.19.2010

Dec 8 @ 2:08 PM ET
we will be paying him for the next 3 years.. which means we will be even cheaper on players... (frank) you melnyk, (frank) you
- gosensgo18



This is wrong. They will pay him til another team
Hires him. So, won't be long.

He had to go. Big head. No system. When 25 plays in last minute over 6, you should be fired on the spot. Not to mention all the other sh!t
the_terror
Boston Bruins
Location: ON
Joined: 07.20.2009

Dec 8 @ 2:09 PM ET
Bylsma isnt the coach you hire if you want to rebuild and get your young guys in the lineup.

He favors veterans because he used to be one. He rarely plays young guys and when he does he has a very long memory with them whenever they screw up.

He has kept Simon Despres buried in the AHL for years and this year he is up playing quality minutes and performing well.

Trust me, save yourselves a lot of anger and frustration.

I have nothing bad to say about Shero besides his drafting.

- SuperHenderson13


Fair points regarding Bylsma. He wouldn't be my first choice to be honest, but it would make logical sense for him to arrive on the scene if Shero is in fact going to take over as GM in Ottawa.

As far as drafting goes, as long as Dorion still retains control over the draft, then the Senators should still be able to draft successfully.
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Dec 8 @ 2:09 PM ET
Bylsma isnt the coach you hire if you want to rebuild and get your young guys in the lineup.

He favors veterans because he used to be one. He rarely plays young guys and when he does he has a very long memory with them whenever they screw up.

He has kept Simon Despres buried in the AHL for years and this year he is up playing quality minutes and performing well.

Trust me, save yourselves a lot of anger and frustration.

I have nothing bad to say about Shero besides his drafting.

- SuperHenderson13


Perhaps it's just me, but it often seems that the guys who get the first overall (or at least a top 3-5 pick) seem to often forget that there are 6 more rounds of draft to go. Pitts had some poor drafting for a while, and now Edmonton are unable to pick out anybody beyond their lottery pick.
Jordo
Ottawa Senators
Location: 40 minute busride from downtow, ON
Joined: 06.27.2007

Dec 8 @ 2:09 PM ET
Sadly for you guys, the available cap space is significantly higher than the available funds.

Firing the guy coaching the (owner mandated) cheapest team in the league is very much akin to firing the manager of a soup kitchen because they're not serving prime rib. Given how the results are going, I'm a little bit perplexed by the decision, and it is likely not one made solely by the team;s on-ice performance. I'm sure that many others would be able to elaborate on that more than I...

- lumlums


Listening to sports talk radio, it sounds like none of the players were really surprised at this move. It sounds like he was beginning to lose the room...
BodyCheckRadio
Joined: 10.19.2010

Dec 8 @ 2:10 PM ET
Bylsma isnt the coach you hire if you want to rebuild and get your young guys in the lineup.

He favors veterans because he used to be one. He rarely plays young guys and when he does he has a very long memory with them whenever they screw up.

He has kept Simon Despres buried in the AHL for years and this year he is up playing quality minutes and performing well.

Trust me, save yourselves a lot of anger and frustration.

I have nothing bad to say about Shero besides his drafting.

- SuperHenderson13
shero will get a good look here. Won't be bylsma.
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