Danny and Hank have 26 points in 29 games. That is top 6 numbers, but they picked up a lot of those in the first month when things were fresh and new. Last month and a half seems like they areslowing down. Oilers helped his numbers.

I'll be glad when they are second liners but we don't have the talent to be close to that unless we get in on the McDavid sweeps

We are,tuning back to,a pass first team instead of the instinct to shoot.
- VANTEL

Three words that I thought I'd never say: they miss Matthias.

I want to see Burrows and Vrbata switch spots, just for a couple of games.

Hopefully that would get Daniel to start shooting more, instead of always trying to set up Radim. That line was better when Hank had 2 shooters to feed instead of both twins feeding 1 triggerman.

And Bonino needs a sniper on his wing.

It's not a long-term fix, but might spark both lines a bit in the short term and inspire JB to make a move for another sniper for the 2nd line.

Another option would be putting Vey or Jensen with Bonino, and put Burrows on the third line.

Time for a shake-up.
- Vanoxy

I have to disagree.We both admit Burrows is no longer good enough to play second line and you want him to play first line?

It is time to ask Burrows for a list of 8 teams to which he would accept a trade.

Three words that I thought I'd never say: they miss Matthias.
- CubanBuffet

I was thinking the exact same thing about an hour ago. Our third and fourth line seem just fine. Need to work on the top 6

Danny and Hank have 26 points in 29 games. That is top 6 numbers, but they picked up a lot of those in the first month when things were fresh and new. Last month and a half seems like they areslowing down. Oilers helped his numbers.

I'll be glad when they are second liners but we don't have the talent to be close to that unless we get in on the McDavid sweeps

We are,tuning back to,a pass first team instead of the instinct to shoot.
- VANTEL

That's actually not true, they both have 7 points in their last ten games, none against the Oilers, so on par with their PPG for the season.

Danny - 3 goal 4 assists
Hank - 1 goal 6 assists

That's actually not true, they both have 7 points in their last ten games, none against the Oilers, so on par with their PPG for the season.

Danny - 3 goal 4 assists
Hank - 1 goal 6 assists
- LeftCoaster

Wasn't 3 of those seven in one game?

So what's the consensus on the road trip? .500 is OK on the road but I'm really disappointed to have been swept by all the Canadian teams on the trip. Trending the wrong way and hopefully they can right the ship on Saturday.
- docmorgan

Good teams generally don't lose 4 in a row so we'll have to see. Losing 3 in a row (2 against mediocre opposition) definitely puts the President's Trophy champagne on ice.

I will sat this Vantel - the Sedins have slowed down, although they still produce points, 5 on 5 production is hit and miss. They look to have tired legs on ths trip, the team needs to get younger in the next year or two.

Good teams generally don't lose 4 in a row so we'll have to see. Losing 3 in a row definitely puts the President's Trophy champagne on ice.
- AlexF

Blasphemy

I will sat this Vantel - the Sedins have slowed down, although they still produce points, 5 on 5 production is hit and miss. They look to have tired legs on ths trip, the team needs to get younger in the next year or two.
- LeftCoaster

They are the best on the team at this time, that has to change in the next two years. The

I want to see Burrows and Vrbata switch spots, just for a couple of games.

Hopefully that would get Daniel to start shooting more, instead of always trying to set up Radim. That line was better when Hank had 2 shooters to feed instead of both twins feeding 1 triggerman.

And Bonino needs a sniper on his wing.

It's not a long-term fix, but might spark both lines a bit in the short term and inspire JB to make a move for another sniper for the 2nd line.

Another option would be putting Vey or Jensen with Bonino, and put Burrows on the third line.

Time for a shake-up.
- Vanoxy

I was thinking the same thing after tonights loss. If the Sedins can get Burrows into half of what he was a couple years ago instead of the non existent second liner he is weèd benefit, And RV would be the best shooter on the second line.

I mean, Bones has a really nice release on his shot, but prefers to distribute. Him passing to RV could have some good benefits on the second line.

Only thing is RV said he signed here because he was told heèd play with the Sedins. He may become a little disgruntled if that is ripped away from him.

Who knows though, he seems pretty down to earth.....

Wasn't 3 of those seven in one game?
- VANTEL

Yes but Danny scored points in five of those ten games, which is normal, they don't pick up points every game. Hank had points in six of those ten games.

I will sat this Vantel - the Sedins have slowed down, although they still produce points, 5 on 5 production is hit and miss. They look to have tired legs on ths trip, the team needs to get younger in the next year or two.
- LeftCoaster

The team is younger than it was last year. This team needs a succession plan to get the Sedins to the 2nd line. I've stated this ad nauseam last year and, even if we've been playing well, that reality still stands. Bonino will never be a viable 1C and I'd be pleasantly surprised if Horvat ever got to be a realistic option for the job (even if he did, it's years away).

I was thinking the exact same thing about an hour ago. Our third and fourth line seem just fine. Need to work on the top 6
- VANTEL

They looked like crap tonight, but the Sedins are still top liners, IMO, and Vrbata fits well. The second line isn't picking up any slack lately, I'll give you that.
This team wins when the Sedin line does whatever it is that they do, and the rest of the team pursues the puck relentlessly. The last few games, they haven't.

The team is younger than it was last year. This team needs a succession plan to get the Sedins to the 2nd line. I've stated this ad nauseam last year and, even if we've been playing well, that reality still stands. Bonino will never be a viable 1C and I'd be pleasantly surprised if Horvat ever got to be a realistic option for the job (even if he did, it's years away).
- AlexF

I think we all agree with that.

It will be a good day when we have enough talent to surpass the brothers.

Good teams generally don't lose 4 in a row so we'll have to see. Losing 3 in a row (2 against mediocre opposition) definitely puts the President's Trophy champagne on ice.
- AlexF

I think this is why no one is screaming. Let's see how they do over the next two weeks or so. Long road trip.

I think this is why no one is screaming. Let's see how they do over the next two weeks or so. Long road trip.
- VANTEL

It would be silly to scream after such a bright start to the season. I know some will point to how we fell apart last year after Christmas but not every season is a carbon copy. Even if we slide down the standings a bit, I don't see this team falling off the rails like last year.

Positives - Kings and Flames both lost.

I have to disagree.We both admit Burrows is no longer good enough to play second line and you want him to play first line?

It is time to ask Burrows for a list of 8 teams to which he would accept a trade.
- VANTEL

As I mentioned, that wouldn't be a long term fix, just mixing it up a bit to snap guys out of their ruts.

If Burrows scores a couple of goals playing with the twins he might carry that momentum with him when he's moved back to the 2nd line. It would also improve his trade value if JB could convince him to waive his NTC.

I don't consider him a 1st liner anymore but the top six needs some kind of spark.

It's the best idea I can think of to get Danny and Burr to start shooting instead of relying on Bonino and Vrbata to do all the scoring.

I'm also dying to see what Bonino could do with an actual sniper on his wing. It seems like we've seen this routine before where the 2C loses faith in his wingers and tries to do it all himself.

As I mentioned, that wouldn't be a long term fix, just mixing it up a bit to snap guys out of their ruts.

If Burrows scores a couple of goals playing with the twins he might carry that momentum with him when he's moved back to the 2nd line. It would also improve his trade value if JB could convince him to waive his NTC.

I don't consider him a 1st liner anymore but the top six needs some kind of spark.

It's the best idea I can think of to get Danny and Burr to start shooting instead of relying on Bonino and Vrbata to do all the scoring.
- Vanoxy

I would only put him on the first to showcase him for a trade.

As I mentioned, that wouldn't be a long term fix, just mixing it up a bit to snap guys out of their ruts.

If Burrows scores a couple of goals playing with the twins he might carry that momentum with him when he's moved back to the 2nd line. It would also improve his trade value if JB could convince him to waive his NTC.

I don't consider him a 1st liner anymore but the top six needs some kind of spark.

It's the best idea I can think of to get Danny and Burr to start shooting instead of relying on Bonino and Vrbata to do all the scoring.

I'm also dying to see what Bonino could do with an actual sniper on his wing. It seems like we've seen this routine before where the 2C loses faith in his wingers and tries to do it all himself.
- Vanoxy

I'd agree that it should be tried. Playing Burrows with the twins for a few shifts or even a full period to see how it goes would cost us very little.

Really ?

For McCabe, Bertuzzi and Ruttu ?

McCabe was flipped to Chicago as part of the trade that landed us the twins.

I consider it one of the best moves in franchise history.
- golfingsince

I fully agree with this. If there is one great thing that Keenan did, it was destroying the team and trading Linden. I know it's not Thursday, but #tbt, when the Linden and McLean trades were announced, I was on the beach in Waikiki, saw the sports ticker at one of those restaurants across from the beach as we were walking down the street.

I want to see Burrows and Vrbata switch spots, just for a couple of games.

Hopefully that would get Daniel to start shooting more, instead of always trying to set up Radim. That line was better when Hank had 2 shooters to feed instead of both twins feeding 1 triggerman.

And Bonino needs a sniper on his wing.

It's not a long-term fix, but might spark both lines a bit in the short term and inspire JB to make a move for another sniper for the 2nd line.

Another option would be putting Vey or Jensen with Bonino, and put Burrows on the third line.

Time for a shake-up.
- Vanoxy

I kinda agree with this, but they did just finish a 7 games road trip. Unfortunately last game just so happened to be against the most storied franchise in the NHL; celebrating the life of one of their most storied icons. The Canucks didn't really stand a chance.

Was a way more entertaining 2-1 game than we would have witnessed last time

I have to disagree.We both admit Burrows is no longer good enough to play second line and you want him to play first line?

It is time to ask Burrows for a list of 8 teams to which he would accept a trade.
- VANTEL

Burrows will be useless on the Sedin line now that he is only 3/4 fast as he used to be and that is being generous.

Vrbata will be fine there leave it be. Let them play through it.

Higgins and Burrows are another story. It IS time for Benning to sit down with Burrows and see where he would like to go and what our options are. I really appreciate what Burrows has done for this team and arguably he has scored the most important goal in Canucks history in gm 7 2011 vs the hawks but...

It's time.

Higgins is streaky and he will come around to score for us but can we wait?? Questions...

When Kassian and Matthias return we need to experiment. Plain and simple. Maybe Matthias has played his way on to the 2nd line? Maybe Kassian deserves another shot there? Maybe the Richardson line should be the 2nd line? Maybe Jensen deserves a shot there? So many questions...

The time for winning is NOW and not in January. WD doesn't need to worry about 'feelings' like Eakins has been doing in EDM. Dump Burrows to the third line and see how he responds. It's not rocket science. Move Hansen to the 2nd line and have Burrows grind it out with Dorsett and Horvat...SOMETHING needs to change and I'm sure WD and JB are on it. To get us deep in the playoffs in 2011 Gillis had to bring in 7 players to shake this team up and so far JB has brought in five. We need two more to get things really rolling and we all know what they are as we have been talking about it for two months now...we knew this was coming...

Burrows will be useless on the Sedin line now that he is only 3/4 fast as he used to be and that is being generous.

Vrbata will be fine there leave it be. Let them play through it.

Higgins and Burrows are another story. It IS time for Benning to sit down with Burrows and see where he would like to go and what our options are. I really appreciate what Burrows has done for this team and arguably he has scored the most important goal in Canucks history in gm 7 2011 vs the hawks but...

It's time.

Higgins is streaky and he will come around to score for us but can we wait?? Questions...

When Kassian and Matthias return we need to experiment. Plain and simple. Maybe Matthias has played his way on to the 2nd line? Maybe Kassian deserves another shot there? Maybe the Richardson line should be the 2nd line? Maybe Jensen deserves a shot there? So many questions...

The time for winning is NOW and not in January. WD doesn't need to worry about 'feelings' like Eakins has been doing in EDM. Dump Burrows to the third line and see how he responds. It's not rocket science. Move Hansen to the 2nd line and have Burrows grind it out with Dorsett and Horvat...SOMETHING needs to change and I'm sure WD and JB are on it. To get us deep in the playoffs in 2011 Gillis had to bring in 7 players to shake this team up and so far JB has brought in five. We need two more to get things really rolling and we all know what they are as we have been talking about it for two months now...we knew this was coming...
- LordHumungous

There's still no player in the bottom 9 better than Burrows, you guys are kidding yourselves.

Burrows will be useless on the Sedin line now that he is only 3/4 fast as he used to be and that is being generous.

Vrbata will be fine there leave it be. Let them play through it.

Higgins and Burrows are another story. It IS time for Benning to sit down with Burrows and see where he would like to go and what our options are. I really appreciate what Burrows has done for this team and arguably he has scored the most important goal in Canucks history in gm 7 2011 vs the hawks but...

It's time.

Higgins is streaky and he will come around to score for us but can we wait?? Questions...

When Kassian and Matthias return we need to experiment. Plain and simple. Maybe Matthias has played his way on to the 2nd line? Maybe Kassian deserves another shot there? Maybe the Richardson line should be the 2nd line? Maybe Jensen deserves a shot there? So many questions...

The time for winning is NOW and not in January. WD doesn't need to worry about 'feelings' like Eakins has been doing in EDM. Dump Burrows to the third line and see how he responds. It's not rocket science. Move Hansen to the 2nd line and have Burrows grind it out with Dorsett and Horvat...SOMETHING needs to change and I'm sure WD and JB are on it. To get us deep in the playoffs in 2011 Gillis had to bring in 7 players to shake this team up and so far JB has brought in five. We need two more to get things really rolling and we all know what they are as we have been talking about it for two months now...we knew this was coming...
- LordHumungous

I think Borrows on the Sedin line will be fine. Sedins don't play a speed transition game. They play more cerebral game that is based on positioning and patience. Burrows lack of speed wont hinder their play but his familiarity with the Sedins will definitely help with the offence. Vrabata plays more of a speed game and loves faster transition plays. Similar to Bonino. How many times have we seen Bonino rush up the ice only to pull up and wait for his trailing wingers to catch up so that he can lay it up for a shot. Usually results in broken play or blocked shot. Give Vrabata his chance to play with the sedins on PP.