Intent to injure is a pretty serious problem in this league.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVuMncw-UVI

Intent to injure is a pretty serious problem in this league.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVuMncw-UVI
- nbartley9

Yeah that was an absolutely brutal play. NHL completely missed the boat on that one. You either know nothing about the sport of hockey or youre just blinded with homerism. Judging by our past debates im going to go with option 1. Funny how four or five other penguin fans on your thread posted it was nothing more than an interference penalty and your blogger deleted their comments promptly as that thread progressed. Id be embarrassed posting that play and whining about a suspension. Thats how far it is from being a suspendable offense.

Yeah that was an absolutely brutal play. NHL completely missed the boat on that one.
- Cptmjl

Thank you for being level headed and honest, every NHL club is guilty; including the Pens.

Why remove Donovan, I tought he was playing allright ?

Thank you for being level headed and honest, every NHL club is guilty; including the Pens.
- nbartley9

Go back and read my edit. Btw. My edit was level headed. Its hard to communicate with people with limited intelligence. Draining is the right word for it.

Why remove Donovan, I tought he was playing allright ?
- Xizord

He was playing better than strait imo but thats not saying much. I dont know why our coach dies things? Nobody does.

Go back and read my edit. Btw. My edit was level headed. Its hard to communicate with people with limited intelligence. Draining is the right word for it.
- Cptmjl

Just when I think your a normal poster , POW; you hit me with that edit. Its a shame.

Edit: Scandella's hit was dirty, and has no place in the NHL; but your just a weird guy. You have some sort of complex, I have no idea how coming to Hockeybuzz is fun for you.

Edit #2: If you cant acknowledge dirty plays that are executed by your own team, like every other point you try to make; is totally worthless.

Just when I think your a normal poster , POW; you hit me with that edit. Its a shame.
- nbartley9

Says the turd that comes trolling over in the islanders thread. Keep on with your normal posting. Like I said in your thread team is just like their fans. Keep pointing your long skinny finger by all means while youre doing exactly what youre lambasting. Yet another hypocrite from the Penguins fan base. Youre not even entertaining about it bcs youre not smart enough to know youre even doing it.

Says the turd that comes trolling over in the islanders thread. Keep on with your normal posting. Like I said in your thread team is just like their fans. Keep pointing your long skinny finger by all means while youre doing exactly what youre lambasting. Yet another hypocrite from the Penguins fan base. Youre not even entertaining about it bcs youre not smart enough to know youre even doing it.
- Cptmjl

I totally went after Tuzzo for his dirty hit on Jagr, so right there your incorrect. He got exactly what he deserved.


Edit: I provide high quality entertainment, and never have I been totally demoralized by a blogger for lack of knowledge like you were a few days ago.

I totally went after Tuzzo for his dirty hit on Jagr, so right there your incorrect. He got exactly what he deserved.


Edit: I provide high quality entertainment, and never have I been totally demoralized by a blogger for lack of knowledge like you were a few days ago.
- nbartley9

Judging the source do you think I find that demoralizing? Youre taking your hockeybuzz a little too seriously and I cant take you seriously when you think Ryan Wilson's opinion would be a good barometer or measuring stick for judging someone's knowledge of hockey. I think its sweet that youre that fond of your "blogger" but you may want to get out a little more.

Normally you and i get along but come on dude, give it a rest.



https://twitter.com/JBuon...42522114147123200/photo/1

Absolute blatant unequivocal intent to injure a player. Haven't seen anything like that since McSorely. Scandella is an absolute POS. Tavares should go on IR just so he gets suspended bcs this league is half assed.
- Cptmjl

Normally yes, but you're choosing to see your point of view and I'm choosing to see mine. Nothing wrong with agreeing to disagree.

So if Scandella is a "POS", I'm curious to find out if you ever, EVER once defended the play or any play of the former Islander Trevor Gillies? Because he was a bonafide POS.

Guess it really doesn't matter, but I can tell you this, and I'm sure every other Wild fan will/would corroborate it, and that is that what we saw last night and in the previous game is very uncharacteristic of Marco.

All I'm saying is players do things and make mistakes, you're willing to forgive or even completely overlook pretty much anything the Islanders players do, yet you claim the league is a joke when it comes to infractions against them.

You seem like one of those knee jerk guys that freaks out when a player on your team is wronged yet are conversely quick to dismiss any of the same or similar actions they dish out to their opponents.

Clearly Scandellas play in regards to the recent head shots are an issue and need to be addressed by the league dept of player safety. But the slash was a clear retaliation to a battery of slashes that came from Tavares. And I'm not defending either play, I think players get away with that crap far too often, but you can't defend one and admonish the other as if they're different plays. If you do then you're biased... A slash is slash and is not considered a legitimate "hockey play", plain and simple it's an illegal play. The severity of each is inconsequential to the point.(unless of course it's aimed at a players upper body)

And BTW, to liken that play to the McSorely play is quite frankly asinine.

Normally yes, but you're choosing to see your point of view and I'm choosing to see mine. Nothing wrong with agreeing to disagree.

So if Scandella is a "POS", I'm curious to find out if you ever, EVER once defended the play or any play of the former Islander Trevor Gillies? Because he was a bonafide POS.

Guess it really doesn't matter, but I can tell you this, and I'm sure every other Wild fan will/would corroborate it, and that is that what we saw last night and in the previous game is very uncharacteristic of Marco.

All I'm saying is players do things and make mistakes, you're willing to forgive or even completely overlook pretty much anything the Islanders players do, yet you claim the league is a joke when it comes to infractions against them.

You seem like one of those knee jerk guys that freaks out when a player on your team is wronged yet are conversely quick to dismiss any of the same or similar actions they dish out to their opponents.

Clearly Scandellas play in regards to the recent head shots are an issue and need to be addressed by the league dept of player safety. But the slash was a clear retaliation to a battery of slashes that came from Tavares. And I'm not defending either play, I think players get away with that crap far too often, but you can't defend one and admonish the other as if they're different plays. If you do then you're biased... A slash is slash and is not considered a legitimate "hockey play", plain and simple it's an illegal play. The severity of each is inconsequential to the point.(unless of course it's aimed at a players upper body)

And BTW, to liken that play to the McSorely play is quite frankly asinine.
- MnGump

I obviously cannot speak for all, but I would imagine that most intelligent Islander fans would agree that Trevor Gillies is and was an embarrassment to the integrity of the entire sport of hockey worldwide. Anyone who enjoyed his tenure with the Islanders is either a caveman or a masochist who enjoyed inviting gross criticism from the entire hockey community.

Normally yes, but you're choosing to see your point of view and I'm choosing to see mine. Nothing wrong with agreeing to disagree.

So if Scandella is a "POS", I'm curious to find out if you ever, EVER once defended the play or any play of the former Islander Trevor Gillies? Because he was a bonafide POS.

Guess it really doesn't matter, but I can tell you this, and I'm sure every other Wild fan will/would corroborate it, and that is that what we saw last night and in the previous game is very uncharacteristic of Marco.

All I'm saying is players do things and make mistakes, you're willing to forgive or even completely overlook pretty much anything the Islanders players do, yet you claim the league is a joke when it comes to infractions against them.

You seem like one of those knee jerk guys that freaks out when a player on your team is wronged yet are conversely quick to dismiss any of the same or similar actions they dish out to their opponents.

Clearly Scandellas play in regards to the recent head shots are an issue and need to be addressed by the league dept of player safety. But the slash was a clear retaliation to a battery of slashes that came from Tavares. And I'm not defending either play, I think players get away with that crap far too often, but you can't defend one and admonish the other as if they're different plays. If you do then you're biased... A slash is slash and is not considered a legitimate "hockey play", plain and simple it's an illegal play. The severity of each is inconsequential to the point.(unless of course it's aimed at a players upper body)

And BTW, to liken that play to the McSorely play is quite frankly asinine.
- MnGump

Ding, ding, ding.

Judging the source do you think I find that demoralizing? Youre taking your hockeybuzz a little too seriously and I cant take you seriously when you think Ryan Wilson's opinion would be a good barometer or measuring stick for judging someone's knowledge of hockey. I think its sweet that youre that fond of your "blogger" but you may want to get out a little more.
- Cptmjl

I very rarely agree with Ryan Wilson, but the fact of the matter is there is a reason he is paid to give his opinion on a hockey blog and we are not. He has a different style than I have at looking at hockey, I may not like it but I respect it.

I enjoy Hockeybuzz and feel like I have my place here amongst Pens fans in our thread, and I have no problem discussing/arguing points with other teams fans; I get out of control some times and I pay for it. But I truly believe the guys in my Pens thread back me even though we may not agree on a lot of things. I don't see anyone ever backing you, I truly think your just a weird lonely dude. Sorry for that.

Ding, ding, ding.
- canadianpenfan

Yep. Ding ding ding. You got that right.

Normally yes, but you're choosing to see your point of view and I'm choosing to see mine. Nothing wrong with agreeing to disagree.

So if Scandella is a "POS", I'm curious to find out if you ever, EVER once defended the play or any play of the former Islander Trevor Gillies? Because he was a bonafide POS.

Guess it really doesn't matter, but I can tell you this, and I'm sure every other Wild fan will/would corroborate it, and that is that what we saw last night and in the previous game is very uncharacteristic of Marco.

All I'm saying is players do things and make mistakes, you're willing to forgive or even completely overlook pretty much anything the Islanders players do, yet you claim the league is a joke when it comes to infractions against them.

You seem like one of those knee jerk guys that freaks out when a player on your team is wronged yet are conversely quick to dismiss any of the same or similar actions they dish out to their opponents.

Clearly Scandellas play in regards to the recent head shots are an issue and need to be addressed by the league dept of player safety. But the slash was a clear retaliation to a battery of slashes that came from Tavares. And I'm not defending either play, I think players get away with that crap far too often, but you can't defend one and admonish the other as if they're different plays. If you do then you're biased... A slash is slash and is not considered a legitimate "hockey play", plain and simple it's an illegal play. The severity of each is inconsequential to the point.(unless of course it's aimed at a players upper body)

And BTW, to liken that play to the McSorely play is quite frankly asinine.
- MnGump

Maybe you need to take a peek at that hatchet chop again? Slashing someones stick as youre getting slashed is not comparable to having someone intentionally try to injure you. Really having a hard time qith that comparison. You keep saying the islanders played their dirty game last night but you havent bought up one instance where anyone can point to such a thing? You've been asked by numerous people and have not once answered? When did these dirty plays hapoen? You said behind the play once but how did you see that? We all missed these dirty plays including your fellow minnesota fans? Games over and you and I wont agree and I honestly dont even know what we are debating bcs I think we are saying the same thing. Our team lost that game. Not the refs. Not scandellas slash, etc. That was never a debate. I think myself and everyone else that have discussed this with you is having a hard time understanding what youre referring too?

I very rarely agree with Ryan Wilson, but the fact of the matter is there is a reason he is paid to give his opinion on a hockey blog and we are not. He has a different style than I have at looking at hockey, I may not like it but I respect it.

I enjoy Hockeybuzz and feel like I have my place here amongst Pens fans in our thread, and I have no problem discussing/arguing points with other teams fans; I get out of control some times and I pay for it. But I truly believe the guys in my Pens thread back me even though we may not agree on a lot of things. I don't see anyone ever backing you, I truly think your just a weird lonely dude. Sorry for that.
- nbartley9

I was having a bad day before I read this. Thanks.


Edit; I guess Wilson's opinion really does matter considering he deletes the fans of the same team he cheers for opinions if they dont agree with his. Sounds like an insecure individual to me.

I was having a bad day before I read this. Thanks.
- Cptmjl

Your welcome, don't mention it.

Your welcome, don't mention it.
- nbartley9

I just did. You should come over to the islander thread. We need some cheering up over there. Youre pretty funny. Never realized that till now. Happy we did this today

Maybe you need to take a peek at that hatchet chop again? Slashing someones stick as youre getting slashed is not comparable to having someone intentionally try to injure you. Really having a hard time qith that comparison. You keep saying the islanders played their dirty game last night but you havent bought up one instance where anyone can point to such a thing? You've been asked by numerous people and have not once answered? When did these dirty plays hapoen? You said behind the play once but how did you see that? We all missed these dirty plays including your fellow minnesota fans? Games over and you and I wont agree and I honestly dont even know what we are debating bcs I think we are saying the same thing. Our team lost that game. Not the refs. Not scandellas slash, etc.
- Cptmjl

Well now you're just putting words in my mouth, I don't recall saying 'dirty' anything. Without actually going back and quoting myself, I'm pretty sure at most I implied nothing more than a few players were taking liberties and finishing some questionably late checks. I mean I know that's exactly the kind of play you're going to get out of Clutterbuck because that's his MO. Always has been, and we as Wild fans heard about it when he played here. Cal's never been a dirty player but his questionably late hits have always drawn the ire of opponents fans. So to try and reiterate my original point, there was a lot of slashing, hacking and banging going on, on both sides of the ice last night. At least in the game that I watched.

As I do not have the game footage right in front of me, I am unable to site specific instances. But when I get home from work tonight, I'll watch the game again and get back to you on that if it's really that vital and important to making my point for you. The mere fact that you and some of the other Isles fans act completely dumbfounded and truculent about it begs the question of what game were you guys actually watching?

Or as I alluded to earlier, maybe you guys are just used to seeing that ambiguous brand of hurt 'em hockey.

That's not the normal MO for the Wild despite what we saw out of Scandella last night nor is that his MO either.

As far as the slashing goes, I have watched it over and over as well as the 5 seconds or so before hand where Tavares is doing his best ginsu knife "mumchuck" impersonation. I suppose if I wanted to I could look at it from the homer rube point of view and say oh Marco was only trying to dive and knock the puck away... But don't worry, I'm not that big a homer. Yes, I think he was trying to chop his leg and I think it was purely a heat of the moment type decision made in reference to the chopping he took which allowed Tavares to turn the puck over. But it's no where near the level of egregiousness as the McSorely whack. At least that's my opinion and I'll stick to that. Maybe could have been called a major on the ice, but clearly the league is not reviewing it, so I'm assuming the DOPS does not see it as an issue of contention.

Well now you're just putting words in my mouth, I don't recall saying 'dirty' anything. Without actually going back and quoting myself, I'm pretty sure at most I implied nothing more than a few players were taking liberties and finishing some questionably late checks. I mean I know that's exactly the kind of play you're going to get out of Clutterbuck because that's his MO. Always has been, and we as Wild fans heard about it when he played here. Cal's never been a dirty player but his questionably late hits have always drawn the ire of opponents fans. So to try and reiterate my original point, there was a lot of slashing, hacking and banging going on, on both sides of the ice last night. At least in the game that I watched.

As I do not have the game footage right in front of me, I am unable to site specific instances. But when I get home from work tonight, I'll watch the game again and get back to you on that if it's really that vital and important to making my point for you. The mere fact that you and some of the other Isles fans act completely dumbfounded and truculent about it begs the question of what game were you guys actually watching?

Or as I alluded to earlier, maybe you guys are just used to seeing that ambiguous brand of hurt 'em hockey.

That's not the normal MO for the Wild despite what we saw out of Scandella last night nor is that his MO either.

As far as the slashing goes, I have watched it over and over as well as the 5 seconds or so before hand where Tavares is doing his best ginsu knife "mumchuck" impersonation. I suppose if I wanted to I could look at it from the homer rube point of view and say oh Marco was only trying to dive and knock the puck away... But don't worry, I'm not that big a homer. Yes, I think he was trying to chop his leg and I think it was purely a heat of the moment type decision made in reference to the chopping he took which allowed Tavares to turn the puck over. But it's no where near the level of egregiousness as the McSorely whack. At least that's my opinion and I'll stick to that. Maybe could have been called a major on the ice, but clearly the league is not reviewing it, so I'm assuming the DOPS does not see it as an issue of contention.
- MnGump

We dont put these players on the ice or sign them to deals nor do I watch with blinders. Hockey is hockey and I prefer the old style of it. Our team is soft of anything thats why I find it funny when opposing fans (really just pens fans actually besides last night) that say the isles play outside the lines. When I first saw that martin hit and the aftermath I was initially disgusted. My first thought was that was a dirty hit until I watched it again. If I saw it as such after the fact id call it that way. Same goes for any other play he made or any other islander for that matter. Playing chippy is one thing when someone is intentionally trying to injure another player thats when my old time hockey mentality goes out the window.

Ive never even heard of scandella bfr last night but im a little confused by you saying thats not his MO? Didnt he just get suspended last week and another time recently for a head hit or elbow? League is reviewing his elbow to Nelson's head so it seems like hes making quite a name for himself now. How is ballard doing btw?

I respect Brodziak for standing up for his teammate and dropping them with Matty, But what ever happened to the Penalty for a guy fighting while wearing a visor?

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- XxNYIxX

I honestly think refs have a hard time remembering all these new situational calls, as for the Ballard hit, he turned and put himself in that spot, I don't blame him though if I saw Martin coming at me full speed I'd be looking for the nearest escape route too

Normally you and i get along but come on dude, give it a rest.



https://twitter.com/JBuon...42522114147123200/photo/1

Absolute blatant unequivocal intent to injure a player. Haven't seen anything like that since McSorely. Scandella is an absolute POS. Tavares should go on IR just so he gets suspended bcs this league is half assed.
- Cptmjl

Yes you have, Simon on Hollweg was the closest

We dont put these players on the ice or sign them to deals nor do I watch with blinders. Hockey is hockey and I prefer the old style of it. Our team is soft of anything thats why I find it funny when opposing fans (really just pens fans actually besides last night) that say the isles play outside the lines. When I first saw that martin hit and the aftermath I was initially disgusted. My first thought was that was a dirty hit until I watched it again. If I saw it as such after the fact id call it that way. Same goes for any other play he made or any other islander for that matter. Playing chippy is one thing when someone is intentionally trying to injure another player thats when my old time hockey mentality goes out the window.

Ive never even heard of scandella bfr last night but im a little confused by you saying thats not his MO? Didnt he just get suspended last week and another time recently for a head hit or elbow? League is reviewing his elbow to Nelson's head so it seems like hes making quite a name for himself now. How is ballard doing btw?
- Cptmjl

3 facial fractures and a concussion. Ballard not in too good a shape.

As far as Scandella goes, he's never been in any kind of trouble or made the kind of questionable/dirty plays that he's made over the course of the last week. He was fined for a very similar hit to Oshie last Saturday. He's stepped up and dropped the gloves a time or two to stick up for another player, sort of like Brodziak did last night, but as I alluded to earlier, these aren't the types of plays Wild fans are used to seeing from Marco.

So I don't know if it's Yeo saying step up and start throwing some weight around and he's taken it too far, or if he's just made some bad decisions lately.

3 facial fractures and a concussion. Ballard not in too good a shape.

As far as Scandella goes, he's never been in any kind of trouble or made the kind of questionable/dirty plays that he's made over the course of the last week. He was fined for a very similar hit to Oshie last Saturday. He's stepped up and dropped the gloves a time or two to stick up for another player, sort of like Brodziak did last night, but as I alluded to earlier, these aren't the types of plays Wild fans are used to seeing from Marco.

So I don't know if it's Yeo saying step up and start throwing some weight around and he's taken it too far, or if he's just made some bad decisions lately.
- MnGump

Game got pretty emotional after that hit. Sucks about Ballard. Never want to see that.