When Laughton gets sent down to the AHL I'll know they are in tank mode. Until then I'll continue to back them and hope they win. I don't think you'll see a coaching change till the off season if at all, and I do think we'll be sellers at the trade deadline where we will probably move some of our better D for who knows what type of return and where no one will touch Vinny or Happy Meal with a 10 foot pole.
Just my 2 cents on today's discussion.

TJ Oshie. Potentially available.

thoughts?
- stayinthefnnet

My only thought is maybe we could win a firiggin shootout with him...

Flyers killed this thread
- PhillySportsGuy

daily.

TJ Oshie. Potentially available.

thoughts?
- stayinthefnnet

What's the cost and yes.

Why does TJ Oshie have 8 points like Matt Read?

Flyers killed this thread
- PhillySportsGuy

Sad, but true

Hopefully the draft brings it back to life, gonna be a long 6 months til then though

Why does TJ Oshie have 8 points like Matt Read?
- Feanor

Because shootout goals don't add to your stats.

My only thought is maybe we could win a firiggin shootout with him...

- FlyersGrace

Ah, yes...Slo-mOshie.

What's the cost and yes.
- Jsaquella

I honestly do not think it would be unreasonable to offer Matt Read for Oshie straight up...

We're not in the importing business. We're an Exporter.
- mayorofangrytown

I hear they're having problems with the exporting.

We're not in the importing business. We're an Exporter.
- mayorofangrytown

totally understandable. was just inquiring as to general thoughts.

i think the cost would probably be prohibitive. but if its reasonable and a contract the blues are looking to move, i would love to kick the tires.

i just really dont see the blues in a position of needing anything really. you arent going to find a weakness on them and press down on it for leverage.

My only thought is maybe we could win a firiggin shootout with him...

- FlyersGrace

haha for that reason alone he would drastically improve the flyers.

Why does TJ Oshie have 8 points like Matt Read?
- Feanor

His shooting percentage is way down this year. Career average is 11.6, only shooting 6.7% this season, probably sure to rise.

I honestly do not think it would be unreasonable to offer Matt Read for Oshie straight up...
- SuperSchennBros

I'd happily toss in another contract to make it work.

Gonna go take a leak

#pissing

There are those who would like to trade Coburn. If you are one of those who believe he should be traded because he's no good, you're stupid. If you are one of those who believe he has value and could help a contender like the LA Kings or the Chicago Black Hawks, you're right on the mark. With a year left in his deal and the current state of the team, I think Hextall has to kick the tires in terms of his value this deadline. If nothing solid is being offered and we're still in the hunt, wait until the off season.

I can't help but wonder what Matt Read and Andrew MacDonald could bring back. Whether packaged together or in two separate deals. Both a reasonable age. Both in long term deals. Both with reasonable skill.

If I'm Hextall, I'm not walking away from Claude Giroux, Jake Voracek, Wayne Simmonds, Sean Couturier, Brayden Schenn, Luke Schenn, Michael Del Zotto, Steve Mason, Scott Laughton or any of our defense prospects unless we see a special sort of circumstances. With this said, I truly believe the Flyers should stick to their guns with these names. Identify your core and run with it.

What's the cost and yes.
- Jsaquella

i honestly do not know.

i am having a hard time approximating his value.

its hard to figure out what the blues would need, much less something that either the pens or flyers could realistically give them. if they value him in the same vein that they do tarasenko, then its obviously not worth even bothering. and i have no care in paying a bloated price due to some shootout showdown in sochi.

but, he is one of the few youngish forwards that would potentially be expendable. he is having a down year, so the cost may be realistic. and while he isnt dirt cheap, it isnt an impossible contract to absorb if you are a believer in a rebound in the right scenario. and i believe he still has some term left on his deal. if i am going to give up some assets, its better than dumping it into a pure rental.

There are those who would like to trade Coburn. If you are one of those who believe he should be traded because he's no good, you're stupid. If you are one of those who believe he has value and could help a contender like the LA Kings or the Chicago Black Hawks, you're right on the mark. With a year left in his deal and the current state of the team, I think Hextall has to kick the tires in terms of his value this deadline. If nothing solid is being offered and we're still in the hunt, wait until the off season.

I can't help but wonder what Matt Read and Andrew MacDonald could bring back. Whether packaged together or in two separate deals. Both a reasonable age. Both in long term deals. Both with reasonable skill.

If I'm Hextall, I'm not walking away from Claude Giroux, Jake Voracek, Wayne Simmonds, Sean Couturier, Brayden Schenn, Luke Schenn, Michael Del Zotto, Steve Mason, Scott Laughton or any of our defense prospects unless we see a special sort of circumstances. With this said, I truly believe the Flyers should stick to their guns with these names. Identify your core and run with it.
- SuperSchennBros

i do think amac could return value other than just being a dump. i dont think as much as coburn would. but what did you guys move for him? a second and a third? i really think teams would move more than that for him should he be made available. contract and all.

His shooting percentage is way down this year. Career average is 11.6, only shooting 6.7% this season, probably sure to rise.
- Jsaquella

Sucks to hear but the Flyers should circle like vultures. If I'm not mistaken, he's a year younger, a million more expensive, decent two way forward and he'd be an incredible upgrade in the shootout anyway.

Matt Read, Andrew MacDonald and a 4th for TJ Oshie and Jay Bouwmeester?

When Laughton gets sent down to the AHL I'll know they are in tank mode. Until then I'll continue to back them and hope they win. I don't think you'll see a coaching change till the off season if at all, and I do think we'll be sellers at the trade deadline where we will probably move some of our better D for who knows what type of return and where no one will touch Vinny or Happy Meal with a 10 foot pole.
Just my 2 cents on today's discussion.
- FlyersGrace

I think the Flyers are going to do the smart thing. And that's not to be reactionary to how the team is playing currently. Sit back, of course listen to and consider any offers, but only trade from the perspective of if the team was playing well and in a playoff spot, would you make that deal. In the mean time, continue to evaluate, see how the team and which players respond. And make the decision at the trade deadline what assets are going to be moved. Stay the course, and continue to look toward the future.

There are those who would like to trade Coburn. If you are one of those who believe he should be traded because he's no good, you're stupid. If you are one of those who believe he has value and could help a contender like the LA Kings or the Chicago Black Hawks, you're right on the mark. With a year left in his deal and the current state of the team, I think Hextall has to kick the tires in terms of his value this deadline. If nothing solid is being offered and we're still in the hunt, wait until the off season.

I can't help but wonder what Matt Read and Andrew MacDonald could bring back. Whether packaged together or in two separate deals. Both a reasonable age. Both in long term deals. Both with reasonable skill.

If I'm Hextall, I'm not walking away from Claude Giroux, Jake Voracek, Wayne Simmonds, Sean Couturier, Brayden Schenn, Luke Schenn, Michael Del Zotto, Steve Mason, Scott Laughton or any of our defense prospects unless we see a special sort of circumstances. With this said, I truly believe the Flyers should stick to their guns with these names. Identify your core and run with it.
- SuperSchennBros

I would not put Luke Schenn or Del Zotto in the core of players to move forward with at this point in time. But open to that changing. It's a long season when looking at Del Zotto.

Sucks to hear but the Flyers should circle like vultures. If I'm not mistaken, he's a year young, a million more expensive, decent two way forward and he'd be an incredible upgrade in the shootout anyway.

Matt Read, Andrew MacDonald and a 4th for TJ Oshie and Jay Bouwmeester?
- SuperSchennBros

not poopting on your offer solely because i want the pens to push hard, but i just really dont see why they make that deal.

it seems lateral to me.

the only reason i would really think they would be looking to move oshie is to rid themselves of money for when the time comes to re up guys like tarasenko and schwartz.

There are those who would like to trade Coburn. If you are one of those who believe he should be traded because he's no good, you're stupid. If you are one of those who believe he has value and could help a contender like the LA Kings or the Chicago Black Hawks, you're right on the mark. With a year left in his deal and the current state of the team, I think Hextall has to kick the tires in terms of his value this deadline. If nothing solid is being offered and we're still in the hunt, wait until the off season.

I can't help but wonder what Matt Read and Andrew MacDonald could bring back. Whether packaged together or in two separate deals. Both a reasonable age. Both in long term deals. Both with reasonable skill.

If I'm Hextall, I'm not walking away from Claude Giroux, Jake Voracek, Wayne Simmonds, Sean Couturier, Brayden Schenn, Luke Schenn, Michael Del Zotto, Steve Mason, Scott Laughton or any of our defense prospects unless we see a special sort of circumstances. With this said, I truly believe the Flyers should stick to their guns with these names. Identify your core and run with it.
- SuperSchennBros

The biggest reason I'd be willing to move Coburn because he's due a new deal after next season, and I think that he'll end up making more than he's worth as well as more than the Flyers should pay him.

Despite his struggles this season, he's still the most physically gifted defenseman they have. He's shown he can play at a high level with the right partner, and should have a good deal of trade value.

I'm open to moving ANY of the Flyers current defensemen. Outside of Del Zotto, there's not a single one who is underpaid and none of them are irreplaceable. That's a bad combo to have when it applies to almost everyone.

I have all the confidence in the world that Matt Read will find his game and become the same quality player that he has been since joining the league. He's just going through a rough spell this season so far. It happens to a lot of players.

I have all the confidence in the world that Matt Read will find his game and become the same quality player that he has been since joining the league. He's just going through a rough spell this season so far. It happens to a lot of players.
- JonnyHammerstix

Amen!