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Bill Meltzer
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Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Dec 11 @ 5:34 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Flyers Gameday: 12/11/14 vs. NJ, Gagne Family, Jeff Burd Memorial
CACannon18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Miami, FL
Joined: 03.12.2014

Dec 11 @ 6:01 AM ET
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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 11 @ 7:31 AM ET
Beat up Devils team. Flyers need to take advantage of that.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Dec 11 @ 7:32 AM ET
Local Sports Radio show is talking about a Sabres Flyers rumor involving Sean Courterier to Buff for D-man Myers, who has improved his play substantially over past year to be Buffalo's best...while Sabres have begun to play good D by keeping teams out of the paint (Sabres just can't score, that's their problem).
Any thoughts from Flyer fans...what is going on with Courterier (sp?) ... He was the guy I wanted the Sabres to get in that draft clas.
Thoughts?
GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Dec 11 @ 7:43 AM ET
Beat up Devils team. Flyers need to take advantage of that.
- MJL

They wont. Devils 4 Flyers 2

Same problems.... Couts, Read, Umberger, Coburn, Rinaldo, Amac

No team speed, physicality, cohesion.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 11 @ 7:46 AM ET
They wont. Devils 4 Flyers 2

Same problems.... Couts, Read, Umberger, Coburn, Rinaldo, Amac

No team speed, physicality, cohesion.

- GOA88


You've identified all the goats huh?
GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Dec 11 @ 7:58 AM ET
You've identified all the goats huh?
- MJL

The ones that stand out to me the most. The whole team sucks quite frankly. Even the Giroux line doesnt sustain constant pressure. Pretty disappointing.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Dec 11 @ 8:01 AM ET
Local Sports Radio show is talking about a Sabres Flyers rumor involving Sean Courterier to Buff for D-man Myers, who has improved his play substantially over past year to be Buffalo's best...while Sabres have begun to play good D by keeping teams out of the paint (Sabres just can't score, that's their problem).
Any thoughts from Flyer fans...what is going on with Courterier (sp?) ... He was the guy I wanted the Sabres to get in that draft clas.
Thoughts?

- IonSabres


C$ fell another 1.162% yesterday. Now down over 2% since Daly said there could be a small increase in cap if the $C holds. Not going to happen.

Sabres/Flyers are perfect dance partners. Sabres have a few years ahead of big cap space. Flyers need space.

My guess is the Sabres will take Lacavallier and any other player the Flyers want them to take in exchange for Tyler Myers and any other player over the age of 25 just as long as the Flyers 1st round pick (2015) is coming back.

But, I don't think Hextall ever gives up a first round pick.
GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Dec 11 @ 8:03 AM ET
C$ fell another 1.162% yesterday. Now down over 2% since Daly said there could be a small increase in cap if the $C holds. Not going to happen.

Sabres/Flyers are perfect dance partners. Sabres have a few years ahead of big cap space. Flyers need space.

My guess is the Sabres will take Lacavallier and any other player the Flyers want them to take in exchange for Tyler Myers and any other player over the age of 25 just as long as the Flyers 1st round pick (2015) is coming back.

But, I don't think Hextall ever gives up any first round pick.

- spatso

I would be shocked if Vinny is dealt. I see him as a buy out right now. Berube wont even play him anymore.....
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Dec 11 @ 8:10 AM ET
I would be shocked if Vinny is dealt. I see him as a buy out right now. Berube wont even play him anymore.....
- GOA88


There are lots of teams that would take Vinny and send some really nice stuff back if that #1 pick comes into play.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Dec 11 @ 8:13 AM ET
Beat up Devils team. Flyers need to take advantage of that.
- MJL


It's time they need a big home stand....this thing can really snow ball unless they start to put some full 60 minute effort together.
landros 2
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Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Dec 11 @ 8:15 AM ET
There are lots of teams that would take Vinny and send some really nice stuff back if that #1 pick comes into play.
- spatso


Im sure they would rather sit him in the press box. Its that or take back another horrid contract ala Milan Michelek.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Dec 11 @ 8:16 AM ET
There are lots of teams that would take Vinny and send some really nice stuff back if that #1 pick comes into play.
- spatso


Cutting off their nose to spite their face is the path the Flyers need to avoid. Moronic things like adding a top pick only add to the trouble.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 11 @ 8:18 AM ET
Local Sports Radio show is talking about a Sabres Flyers rumor involving Sean Courterier to Buff for D-man Myers, who has improved his play substantially over past year to be Buffalo's best...while Sabres have begun to play good D by keeping teams out of the paint (Sabres just can't score, that's their problem).
Any thoughts from Flyer fans...what is going on with Courterier (sp?) ... He was the guy I wanted the Sabres to get in that draft clas.
Thoughts?

- IonSabres


Couturier has been less than stellar this season. Still, you're talking about a guy who was ranked 9th in Selke voting as a 20-year-old last year on a very cap-friendly deal. Myers would be the Flyers' best defenseman, but he's not in that "elite" class that I'd trade Couturier for.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 11 @ 8:18 AM ET
Im sure they would rather sit him in the press box. Its that or take back another horrid contract ala Milan Michelek.
- landros 2


I'd trade VLC for Michalak in a heartbeat.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Dec 11 @ 8:23 AM ET
Couturier has been less than stellar this season. Still, you're talking about a guy who was ranked 9th in Selke voting as a 20-year-old last year on a very cap-friendly deal. Myers would be the Flyers' best defenseman, but he's not in that "elite" class that I'd trade Couturier for.
- jmatchett383


I might think a while on that one....
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Dec 11 @ 8:23 AM ET
Cutting off their nose to spite their face is the path the Flyers need to avoid. Moronic things like adding a top pick only add to the trouble.
- Jsaquella


I agree. But, I'm guessing we will hear rumors of some very good players (eg Myers, Yantel) being made available to the Flyers including the other team taking back bad contracts to give the Flyers some cap relief if that #1 pick is included.

I believe Hextall says no.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 11 @ 8:28 AM ET
I agree. But, I'm guessing we will hear rumors of some very good players (eg Myers, Yantel) being made available to the Flyers including the other team taking back bad contracts to give the Flyers some cap relief if that #1 pick is included.

I believe Hextall says no.

- spatso


The Flyers trading their #1 pick this year should be considered absurd unless a legitimate superstar, preferably an elite defender, is involved. Even then I'd be hesitant.
GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Dec 11 @ 8:29 AM ET
I'd trade VLC for Michalak in a heartbeat.
- jmatchett383

Absolutely
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Dec 11 @ 8:29 AM ET
I agree. But, I'm guessing we will hear rumors of some very good players (eg Myers, Yantel) being made available to the Flyers including the other team taking back bad contracts to give the Flyers some cap relief if that #1 pick is included.

I believe Hextall says no.

- spatso


I doubt it's something he even entertains seriously. He might be willing to trade a guy like Coburn for less of a return, if the other team takes Vinny, but he's not adding a first rounder, especially not a 2015
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Dec 11 @ 8:29 AM ET
Best wishes to the Gagne's.

Let's go Flyers!
GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Dec 11 @ 8:29 AM ET
The Flyers trading their #1 pick this year should be considered absurd unless a legitimate superstar, preferably an elite defender, is involved. Even then I'd be hesitant.
- jmatchett383

Read, Vinny and our 1st for Weber?
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Dec 11 @ 8:30 AM ET
All those looking to fire Berube for Babcock can cross that off. Looks like he is staying wityh wings.
landros 2
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Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Dec 11 @ 8:30 AM ET
I agree. But, I'm guessing we will hear rumors of some very good players (eg Myers, Yantel) being made available to the Flyers including the other team taking back bad contracts to give the Flyers some cap relief if that #1 pick is included.

I believe Hextall says no.

- spatso


considering their current spot I don't think Hextall does it either...It's not like they are one or two pieces away from being a true stanley cup contender. hextall has repeatedly said he needs to build through the draft.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 11 @ 8:32 AM ET
I might think a while on that one....
- landros 2


You're right, Couturier is a bust. I mean, he's not like Patrice Bergeron, the defensive standout who scored a whopping 8 goals and 39 points in 64 games in his fourth season, the point where Couturier is now in his career. And really, that Boston team sucked that year, only being the 2nd best team in the NHL, compared to the offensive and defensive juggernaut that is the 14/15 Flyers. We should trade him for the first offer that comes along.
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