Technically Timonen is still on the team.
- MJL

Pronger too, right?

I always thought he was a product of Tampas system and players surrounding him. I have the same feeling about Johnson too.
- GOA88

Do you think the same is true of Coburn in the Flyers' system, but in a negative way?

The package that Nashville reportedly wanted was something like:

Couturier + Schenn + Voracek + 2 1sts

Something along those lines. I know those 3 players were involved, may have been 1 1st and some other player/prospect.
- jmatchett383[/img]

Thats way too much for Weber IMO

Pronger too, right?
- jmatchett383

You're correct, forgot about him.

Do you think the same is true of Coburn in the Flyers' system, but in a negative way?
- jmatchett383

I think Coburn at best is a compliment to a 2nd pairing. So he is having the same problems as Amac for example... So to answer your question, yea I guess so. He is being relied on too heavily.

Yeah, it's probably Utley and Howard.

But Coburn's not far off.
- johndewar

He's definitely the longest (continually) tenured player for both the Flyers and Sixers.

I think that Utley, Howard, Ruiz, and Hamels have been up longer (2006 or before). Not sure about the Eagles.

Thats way too much for Weber IMO
- GOA88

That's the issue. It was a king's ransom. But remember, back then, Voracek was pegged as a second-liner and it was Schenn + Couturier that broke the deal. The Flyers refused to include both.

That's what the reports were, anyway.

He's definitely the longest (continually) tenured player for both the Flyers and Sixers.

I think that Utley, Howard, Ruiz, and Hamels have been up longer (2006 or before). Not sure about the Eagles.
- jmatchett383

Chooch and Hamels are both 2006. Same as Coburn.

You're absolutely right about Utley and Howard.

That's the issue. It was a king's ransom. But remember, back then, Voracek was pegged as a second-liner and it was Schenn + Couturier that broke the deal. The Flyers refused to include both.

That's what the reports were, anyway.
- jmatchett383

I'm so glad that didnt happen. Look at Voracek now and Schenn is really starting to show his potential. Finally

Chooch and Hamels are both 2006. Same as Coburn.

You're absolutely right about Utley and Howard.
- johndewar

Coburn didn't come over until 2007, near the TDL.

I'm so glad that didnt happen. Look at Voracek now and Schenn is really starting to show his potential. Finally
- GOA88

Absolutely. Still, it IS tempting.

Coburn didn't come over until 2007, near the TDL.
- jmatchett383

You're right. I was thinking of it in terms of the 2006-2007 season.

Absolutely. Still, it IS tempting.
- jmatchett383

I would do the deal if it was Couts, Schenn and a 1st. No way I add Voracek into that deal.

What is going on with MDZ? Wrong guy scratched IMO.

Giroux and Coburn are the only players left from a Stanley Cup run a little more than four years ago.
- mayorofangrytown

well to be fair if pronger and timonen were still alive they'd be playing


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If the Sixers get the # 1 pick this year, they have to trade it. No room for Okafor with Noel, and Embiid on board.
- PLindbergh31

I think they would trade Noel. Okafor is better.


I also could see them trading MCW to try and get another 1st rounder.

I would do the deal if it was Couts, Schenn and a 1st. No way I add Voracek into that deal.
- GOA88

It's not going to happen, but what if the package was Couturier, B. Schenn, Laughton, Hagg, and a 1st?

I think they would trade Noel. Okafor is better.


I also could see them trading MCW to try and get another 1st rounder.
- J35Bacher

I hope they do. And then 2 years later, they'll trade and Embiid and Okafor to get 1st round picks. 2 years after that, they'll trade the 2 players they picked for first round picks...

You didn't specify NHL. He's still with the organization.
- jmatchett383

THAT IS FALSE. He's not with the Flyers organization. He's with the Phantoms.

If you're saying he works for Comcast Spectacor, you would be correct. However, you are not.

You can try to redress this anyway you want but facts are facts and the fact is that I've spent many hours researching the contracts of players in the Flyers organization and I know what a Flyers contract is and what it's not and Powe does not under any circumstances have what is a Flyers contract. That is irrefutable. If you spend the hours I've spent studying these kinds of contracts then you tell me why you falsely believe Powe has a Flyers contract.

If the Sixers get the # 1 pick this year, they have to trade it. No room for Okafor with Noel, and Embiid on board.
- PLindbergh31

Take Okafor, trade Noel

well to be fair if pronger and timonen were still alive they'd be playing


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- -davies-

I did say they were the only "players left." As far as any of us know, Pronger and Tmmonen won't be a player this season.

You know if you feel like nitpicking technicalities instead of just taking it for what the reality is.

It's not going to happen, but what if the package was Couturier, B. Schenn, Laughton, Hagg, and a 1st?
- jmatchett383

Thats just too much.... It would deplete our forward group drastically.

THAT IS FALSE. He's not with the Flyers organization. He's with the Phantoms.

If you're saying he works for Comcast Spectacor, you would be correct. However, you are not.

You can try to redress this anyway you want but facts are facts and the fact is that I've spent many hours researching the contracts of players in the Flyers organization and I know what a Flyers contract is and what it's not and Powe does not under any circumstances have what is a Flyers contract. That is irrefutable. If you spend the hours I've spent studying these kinds of contracts then you tell me why you falsely believe Powe has a Flyers contract.
- mayorofangrytown

You're not putting your facts into context here, and that's why your so-called facts are truly opinions. I'm here to discuss the irrefutable facts, and the fact is that Darrell Powe works under the umbrella of the Philadelphia Flyers organization. I'm right, you're wrong. You can to try paint this any way you want, but these are the facts and they are indisputable.

If you use logic instead of trying to insult me, and stop gussying up the Penis Mightier, you'll come to the same conclusion, and that is that I am right. Your system of contract dispute and penile enlargement devices is flawed, because you don't view it with the proper amount of context. That fact is that the facts are, in facts, factually facts.

In the end, you'll find that Bauer is a far superior stick to Mission.

THAT IS FALSE. He's not with the Flyers organization. He's with the Phantoms.

If you're saying he works for Comcast Spectacor, you would be correct. However, you are not.

You can try to redress this anyway you want but facts are facts and the fact is that I've spent many hours researching the contracts of players in the Flyers organization and I know what a Flyers contract is and what it's not and Powe does not under any circumstances have what is a Flyers contract. That is irrefutable. If you spend the hours I've spent studying these kinds of contracts then you tell me why you falsely believe Powe has a Flyers contract.
- mayorofangrytown

MoatJL

Thats just too much.... It would deplete our forward group drastically.
- GOA88

And that's why the Flyers didn't make the trade, because they felt they'd have a huge gash in their team.