That's why I think RNH would be a closer swap
- aflyerpower8

If I'm Nashville, I'm asking for more for Seth Jones. Not sure why, but RNH has not impressed me at all. I think he and Yakupov will be looked back upon as the 2 picks that hurt that organization the most when all is said and done.

I don't think the team with that #1 overall trades it for anything less than a proven superstar. I think the package going for it has to be Weber, not Jones. You're likely talking a Lindros-sized haul.
- jmatchett383

just cant see those major haul trades happening. If they want a top flight Dman, the last value we can compare to is Pronger. 2 1st round picks, a roster player, and a prospect.

That would be a serious gut job to the oilers, I think getting a younger but still unproven guy like Jones at a lower value vs having to over spend on a proven top flight guy is the smarter move long term

weber rine +
- PhillaBully

If I'm Edmonton and Nashville wants the pick, I'm asking for something like:

Weber
Forsberg
one of Ellis/Josi
2015 1st rounder

You're talking about a possible Crosby. You can demand whatever you want. If no one wants to massively overpay for him, then you pick the player.

just cant see those major haul trades happening. If they want a top flight Dman, the last value we can compare to is Pronger. 2 1st round picks, a roster player, and a prospect.

That would be a serious gut job to the oilers, I think getting a younger but still unproven guy like Jones at a lower value vs having to over spend on a proven top flight guy is the smarter move long term
- DDM-Coga

I agree. I'm just saying that there's no way they trade the McDavid pick for Seth Jones and spare parts.

If I'm Nashville, I'm asking for more for Seth Jones. Not sure why, but RNH has not impressed me at all. I think he and Yakupov will be looked back upon as the 2 picks that hurt that organization the most when all is said and done.
- jmatchett383

Seth Jones is currently the fifth defenseman in Nashville and as good as I think he will be I don't think you could get much more than RNH who leads Edmonton in scoring and is their top line center

Seth Jones is currently the fifth defenseman in Nashville and as good as I think he will be I don't think you could get much more than RNH who leads Edmonton in scoring and is their top line center
- aflyerpower8

If that's the best I could do, then I'm holding onto Seth Jones.

If that's the best I could do, then I'm holding onto Seth Jones.
- jmatchett383

Yep..

I agree. I'm just saying that there's no way they trade the McDavid pick for Seth Jones and spare parts.
- jmatchett383

Anyway the oilers dangle that pick, they are screwed with their backs against the wall. They wont get a Duncan Keith for it, nor will they get full value of the pick getting a younger guy like Jones.

Its like they use the pick to take McDavid or Eichel and still have the same holes, or t hey have to take the lose in value and be ridiculed for the trade. Its a lose lose situation for them. No team is going to give them full value on that pick bc they are desperate

Anyway the oilers dangle that pick, they are screwed with their backs against the wall. They wont get a Duncan Keith for it, nor will they get full value of the pick getting a younger guy like Jones.

Its like they use the pick to take McDavid or Eichel and still have the same holes, or t hey have to take the lose in value and be ridiculed for the trade. Its a lose lose situation for them. No team is going to give them full value on that pick bc they are desperate
- DDM-Coga

Well, you'd have McDavid, RNH, and Draisaitl as your top 3 centers. I'd put my money on Draisaitl becoming better than RNH. Maybe RNH and a prospect can land you a Yandle type.

Well, you'd have McDavid, RNH, and Draisaitl as your top 3 centers. I'd put my money on Draisaitl becoming better than RNH. Maybe RNH and a prospect can land you a Yandle type.
- jmatchett383

I think you undervalue RNH considering he has had a 56 point season and is 21 years old.

Wow. Things not looking good for Voynov.

If this poop is actually true, it's really (frank)ed up.

More likely scenario:

Flyers win 14/15 Stanley Cup
Luke Schenn becomes a Norris Trophy candidate
Craig Berube gets abducted by aliens
- jmatchett383

easy. What do I win?

Wow. Things not looking good for Voynov.

If this poop is actually true, it's really (frank)ed up.
- PhillySportsGuy

What happened?

What happened?
- JonnyHammerstix

http://www.sportingnews.c...ls-wife-injuries-la-kings

What happened?
- JonnyHammerstix

They released some of the details of what happened in his domestic abuse case. He allegedly punched her in the face at a party and then that night at home he threw her to the ground and was choking her, threw her into a flat screen tv where she cut her face. She needed 8 stitches to the wound on her face and their was blood all over the bedroom.
And this is what they released so far. He is pleading not guilty.

They released some of the details of what happened in his domestic abuse case. He allegedly punched her in the face at a party and then that night at home he threw her to the ground and was choking her, threw her into a flat screen tv where she cut her face. She needed 8 stitches to the wound on her face and their was blood all over the bedroom.
And this is what they released so far. He is pleading not guilty.
- FlyersGrace

That and she doesn't want him charged.

http://www.sportingnews.c...ls-wife-injuries-la-kings
- ThirdEye

lovely

That and she doesn't want him charged.
- twotoekenn

some states the victim doesn't have a say in that. Not sure about California

some states the victim doesn't have a say in that. Not sure about California
- nastyflyergirl

Officer showed up and there was a beaten woman and blood everywhere. Voynov must have a pretty creative mind if he thinks he's getting out of this

They released some of the details of what happened in his domestic abuse case. He allegedly punched her in the face at a party and then that night at home he threw her to the ground and was choking her, threw her into a flat screen tv where she cut her face. She needed 8 stitches to the wound on her face and their was blood all over the bedroom.
And this is what they released so far. He is pleading not guilty.
- FlyersGrace

Disgraceful

some states the victim doesn't have a say in that. Not sure about California
- nastyflyergirl

I believe California is one of those states.

I wonder if Bettman will cancel his contract if this gets worse.

That and she doesn't want him charged.
- twotoekenn

She doesn't want those NHL paychecks to stop coming in. Same with Ray Rice's wife.

She doesn't want those paychecks to stop coming in. Same with Ray Rice's wife.
- JonnyHammerstix

I think it's more phsycholgical like she feels it's her fault if his career comes to an end.

I wouldn't be surprised if the abuse was an ongoing thing and this was a breaking point.

Seth Jones is currently the fifth defenseman in Nashville and as good as I think he will be I don't think you could get much more than RNH who leads Edmonton in scoring and is their top line center
- aflyerpower8

doesn't say much for that junk team though

I think it's more phsycholgical like she feels it's her fault if his career comes to an end.

I wouldn't be surprised if the abuse was an ongoing thing and this was a breaking point.
- PhillySportsGuy

Probably. A man doesn't just haul off and beat the piss out his girl without there being a bit of a history. This is some serious over the top poop