2 weeks ago the Oilers have a BULL$$$T presser (where have we seen that before) to tell everyone that everything is fine and to stay the corse, then they fire there coach after saying everything is fine, now the media or the Oilers start the Taylor Hall might be moved crap? I don't buy it.
- SABRES 89

"The coach is staying."

-Darcy Regier (Jan. 2013).

The Oilers are 18 months behind us in the rebuild. They are moving into dismantle and stockpile. Just as we traded the rotten core for picks, they will too.

Hall is an opportunity that should be explored with open minded caution.

if all murray does this season is lock up goalies, and trade ufa's I am ok

I would like him to explore getting a top line winger and move coho though (not in same move)

3 centers and top 4 d men win you a cup more often then not
- homiedclown

Beauchemin 30:33 via trade
Pronger 30:11 via trade
Neids 29:50 via UFA
O'Donnell 20:20 via trade

Andy Mcdonald college UFA
Kunitz college UFA
Selanne UFA
Penner college UFA
Marchant via trade
Giguere via trade

All played major roles in winning that cup

We are winning with goalie play against good teams. Florida and Ottawa are not good teams. San Jose outshot them 30-14. The Caps outshot them 44-26. The Habs outshot them 44-26 in one of the games. The Kings outshot them 34-16. The Flames outshot them 45-19. Those would have all been losses if not for the goalie play. Take away those 10 points and the Sabres are 32nd.
- Pierceme69

Team defense. There were great saves also, but Nolan has them parking the bus and forcing shots from the perimeter.

Even including his "lights out" nights - one of them a shutout - Enroth is at 920 over this "hot streak." That's good, not great, goaltending.

I think if somehow we aquire Hall, Many on here will be disappointed with what we will have to give up. But I also believe they will forget about it when Hall is puttting up 80-90+ points a season for the next 10 years.
- MCGUIZZY

Exactly. Also, there is no way that Edmont wants picks back. They've been in a rebuilding mode for ten years now.

Team defense. There were great saves also, but Nolan has them parking the bus and forcing shots from the perimeter.

Even including his "lights out" nights - one of them a shutout - Enroth is at 920 over this "hot streak." That's good, not great, goaltending.
- Der Kaiser

That can win you a cup.

That can win you a cup.
- dadeadhead

Not if it's all you have going for you.

For clarity, I'm saying we have been winning because we have more.

Exactly. Also, there is no way that Edmont wants picks back. They've been in a rebuilding mode for ten years now.
- Slump Buster

Says who?

Those picks can be moved for NHL bodies.

Not if it's all you have going for you.
- Der Kaiser

That's not the point.

You don't need great/elite goaltending to win a cup.


Enroth and Neuvirth are good quality goalies that if here in a few years when they should be competing can get the job done.

That's not the point.

You don't need great/elite goaltending to win a cup.


Enroth and Neuvirth are good quality goalies that if here in a few years when they should be competing can get the job done.
- dadeadhead

See edit. I was responding to a post that said we have been winning only because of hot goaltending. I think we have been winning as a team, and the goaltending has been enough.

That can win you a cup.
- dadeadhead

http://espn.go.com/nhl/st...ct/year/2010/seasontype/3

That can win you a cup.
- dadeadhead

http://espn.go.com/nhl/st...ct/year/2009/seasontype/3

See edit. I was responding to a post that said we have been winning only because of hot goaltending. I think we have been winning as a team, and the goaltending has been enough.
- Der Kaiser

They have been out scoring the other team too.

That can win you a cup.
- dadeadhead

http://espn.go.com/nhl/st...ct/year/2007/seasontype/3

That can win you a cup.
- dadeadhead

http://espn.go.com/nhl/st...ct/year/2006/seasontype/3

They have been out scoring the other team too.
- dadeadhead

This is always the primary key to winning.

I get it.

That can win you a cup.
- dadeadhead

http://espn.go.com/nhl/st...ct/year/2002/seasontype/3

That can win you a cup.
- dadeadhead

for every tim thomas that steals you a cup there are 4 goalies that just play ok and win you a cup

This is always the primary key to winning.

I get it.
- Der Kaiser

- dadeadhead

It's another way of saying 0 - 0 is a tie.

for every tim thomas that steals you a cup there are 4 goalies that just play ok and win you a cup
- homiedclown

You know we're on the same page.

You know we're on the same page.
- dadeadhead

The Clown likes the short guy.

I prefer the tall one.

They're both at .920 with a reasonable cap hit.

Let's move on.

It's another way of saying 0 - 0 is a tie.
- Der Kaiser

0-0 equals both goalies get a shutout but we all know the score was 1-0

The Clown likes the short guy.

I prefer the tall one.

They're both at .920 with a reasonable cap hit.

Let's move on.
- Der Kaiser

I like both of them.