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wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Dec 17 @ 11:48 AM ET
Imagine how much easier this season would be to take if they had VL, Umberger, Grossmann and AMac on expiring deals
- PhillySportsGuy


Click your heels 3 times...
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Dec 17 @ 11:48 AM ET
On a completely different subject, what did you think of are future possible franchise goalie in Vasilevski?
- Artyukhin76


Great coverage of the net, especially down low. /jealous
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 17 @ 11:49 AM ET
So full of bias, flawed stats and hyperbola.
- Tomahawk


Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Dec 17 @ 11:50 AM ET
this is why the shootout is (frank)ing stoopid.
- hammarby31


Oh, there is more than one reason why it's stupid.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Dec 17 @ 11:50 AM ET
Carle can be SOOOO infuriating at times. Our depth has improved, but it took a long, long time of being the laughingstock of the NHL. Now we're just not annoying team that everyone thinks is overrated.

On a completely different subject, what did you think of are future possible franchise goalie in Vasilevski?

- Artyukhin76


He looked good. Pretty poised for a first start. He goes down to the ice quite frequently. He's a big guy, he still takes up a large part of the net. Bob had that same problem in Philly, but rectified it pretty quickly.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Dec 17 @ 11:51 AM ET

- jmatchett383



English is hard.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Dec 17 @ 11:51 AM ET
Click your heels 3 times...
- wolfhounds


OK!

Edit: Nope. Still signed thru 2036.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 17 @ 11:51 AM ET
Oh, there is more than one reason why it's stupid.
- Scoob




This is why the shootout is awesome.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Dec 17 @ 11:51 AM ET
Carle can be SOOOO infuriating at times. Our depth has improved, but it took a long, long time of being the laughingstock of the NHL. Now we're just not annoying team that everyone thinks is overrated.

On a completely different subject, what did you think of are future possible franchise goalie in Vasilevski?

- Artyukhin76


What were you guys thinking buying Vinny out?
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Dec 17 @ 11:52 AM ET
OK!

Edit: Nope. Still signed thru 2036.

- PhillySportsGuy


Wait, did you have your ruby slippers on? I bet you didn't...

Try again.

And if still doesn't work, tequila should take care of the problem. Trust me, I can spell Dokter.
Artyukhin76
Tampa Bay Lightning
Joined: 07.25.2009

Dec 17 @ 11:53 AM ET
He looked good. Pretty poised for a first start. He goes down to the ice quite frequently. He's a big guy, he still takes up a large part of the net. Bob had that same problem in Philly, but rectified it pretty quickly.
- PhillySportsGuy

Russian goalies tend to go down quickly.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Dec 17 @ 11:53 AM ET


English is hard.

- Scoob


PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Dec 17 @ 11:54 AM ET
Wait, did you have your ruby slippers on? I bet you didn't...
- wolfhounds


No. Just in socks. Left the slippers in Kansas
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Dec 17 @ 11:55 AM ET
tank, tank, tank, tank, taaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnnnnk!
- hammarby31

Good advice
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 17 @ 11:55 AM ET
OK!

Edit: Nope. Still signed thru 2036.

- PhillySportsGuy


2017 buyout candidate?
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Dec 17 @ 11:55 AM ET
I don't think MacDonald is bad. I think he is average to maybe above average at times. For what he is being paid though, right or wrong, he is just not good enough. I would have much rather let maybe Alt, or Morin or some low risk high reward type like Del Zotto fill that need on the third pair. I think the Flyers needed to do a better job of reading the market. I think lots of people knew del zotto was going to be available.



jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 17 @ 11:56 AM ET
No. Just in socks. Left the slippers in Kansas
- PhillySportsGuy


What the hell were you doing in Kansas?
Why does Kansas exist?
Why does Iowa exist?
Artyukhin76
Tampa Bay Lightning
Joined: 07.25.2009

Dec 17 @ 11:56 AM ET
What were you guys thinking buying Vinny out?
- Just5

If that buyout didn't happen then we would have lost one or more of our young prospects. His contract wasn't sustainable in today's salary cap Era. He was a fan favorite, but his injuries, declining production and huge cap hit hurt us too much.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Dec 17 @ 11:56 AM ET
Russian goalies tend to go down quickly.
- Artyukhin76


I was impressed with his puck handling too. Usually Russian goalies really struggled in that department for the first few years. He seems adequate.

How do you see the goalie situation working out between Bishop and Vasilevskiy?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 17 @ 11:57 AM ET
If that buyout didn't happen then we would have lost one or more of our young prospects. His contract wasn't sustainable in today's salary cap Era. He was a fan favorite, but his injuries, declining production and huge cap hit hurt us too much.
- Artyukhin76


What do you mean "declining production?" He sits out as a healthy scratch better than any player I've ever seen.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Dec 17 @ 11:57 AM ET
Russian goalies tend to go down quickly.
- Artyukhin76


Thanks for dropping by, if last night wasn't entertaining enough, drop by capgeek and take a look at the flyers financials. We'll be here for you guys the next 3 years.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 17 @ 11:58 AM ET
My point wasn't really that he isn't worth 6 years 30 million. He may of got a similar deal from another team. I personally wouldn't give him that deal as I feel what he does can be found for cheaper.

My point was that when you take the entire package we gave up for Amac, I don't like it at all. That 2015 second rounder may prove to be extremely valuable.

- JFlyers00



A solid overall two way defenseman such as MacDonald is well worth the cost of a 2nd round pick, in my opinion. I do however feel that a valid argument can be made that the practice of trading draft picks to acquire players early that are going into free agency, should cease, and just take your chances in free agency.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 17 @ 11:59 AM ET
In that case, the Flyers may have been better off waiting until free agency. I don't think it's that big of a deal if AMac walks compared to possibly overpaying him for 6 years.
- NickTheKid87


I think that is a valid argument.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Dec 17 @ 12:00 PM ET
What the hell were you doing in Kansas?
Why does Kansas exist?
Why does Iowa exist?

- jmatchett383


Just looked up things to do in Kansas. Slim pickings.

Apparently, there is a place called Mission Woods, which is ranked as the 4th best place to live in America. It has 175 people.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Dec 17 @ 12:00 PM ET
who wins the ashbee trophy this year?

They shouldnt even hand it out...

- PhillaBully

mase
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