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3flyerkids
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Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Dec 17 @ 9:31 AM ET
Don't see how Columbus finishes behind us. They are a better team

Switch them out for Ottawa maybe

Nice to see the leafs take off. Don't think their annual collapse will be bad enough to threaten us. I see the yotes finishing ahead of us even after dumping yandle. Not a fan of him

- Just5[img][/img]


Ottawa will definitely have a top 5. I think the Canes will finish last, they are a major ClusterFK. I hate to say it but you may be right with the Leafs. They will make the playoffs( and I hate saying that).
WarriorHockey21
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.09.2012

Dec 17 @ 9:31 AM ET
The Flyers will be go 13-1-4 down the stretch and finish 4 points out of the playoffs and pick 14th.

EDIT: They will be in the bottom 5 prior.

- NickTheKid87


Yep.. that's exactly what will happen..


Just the right amount of "suck"..
OrangeAndBlack1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'm not telling.
Joined: 11.29.2011

Dec 17 @ 9:36 AM ET
Thanks Bill. Guess who was on the ice for the first two goals against the Flyers? Coby. Nice. Dump him while you can, and at least get some picks.
Scotty L continues to impress. I can definitely see him wearing the C next. He learns from his mistakes, he doesn't quit on a play, and plays a two way game. What more could you ask for. G don't look over your shoulder.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 17 @ 9:36 AM ET
Ottawa will definitely have a top 5. I think the Canes will finish last, they are a major ClusterFK. I hate to say it but you may be right with the Leafs. They will make the playoffs( and I hate saying that).
- 3flyerkids


Here's how I see the divisions finishing, the starred teams make the playoffs

Tampa*
Boston*
Montreal*
Detroit*
Toronto*
Florida
Ottawa
Buffalo

Pittsburgh*
NY Islanders*
NY Rangers*
Washington
Columbus
Philadelphia
New Jersey
Carolina

St. Louis*
Chicago*
Nashville*
Minnesota*
Winnipeg
Dallas
Colorado

Anaheim*
San Jose*
Los Angeles*
Vancouver*
Calgary
Arizona
Edmonton
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Dec 17 @ 9:36 AM ET
I don't hate you now!
- BiggE


Mayor Of Angry Town says there's a conspiracy between Snider and the league to give the Flyers the #1 pick as long as they miss the playoffs. I'm hoping against hope for this even if it's immoral.
WarriorHockey21
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.09.2012

Dec 17 @ 9:38 AM ET
Mayor Of Angry Town says there's a conspiracy between Snider and the league to give the Flyers the #1 pick as long as they miss the playoffs. I'm hoping against hope for this even if it's immoral.
- NickTheKid87


It's only right, for all the help he gave the Penguins, and how the Flyers got screwed on Kane..

Give us McDavid as a pity-pick!!!
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Dec 17 @ 9:39 AM ET
I assume you meant how they would finish as there is no way of knowing who will win the lottery. I think you are pretty close, I would go with:
1. Carolina
2. Edmonton
3. Buffalo
4. New Jersey
5. Arizona
6. Philadelphia
7. Colorado
8. Ottawa
9. Columbus
10. Dallas

That would leave us picking 6th, 7th or 1st if we get really lucky

- BiggE


This bottom ten seems very spot on.
Flyers could finish in the bottom 3 if G. Jake, or Mase miss any significant time.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Dec 17 @ 9:40 AM ET
The Flyers will be go 13-1-4 down the stretch and finish 4 points out of the playoffs and pick 14th.

EDIT: They will be in the bottom 5 prior.

- NickTheKid87


Coburn, macdonald, and grossman will get injured prior to the deadline becoming untradable. Manning, lauridsen, alt will come up and the team will go on a streak playing simple hockey. flyer go from bottom 3 to bottom 12. Sound familiar?
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 17 @ 9:40 AM ET
Mayor Of Angry Town says there's a conspiracy between Snider and the league to give the Flyers the #1 pick as long as they miss the playoffs. I'm hoping against hope for this even if it's immoral.
- NickTheKid87


That would work for me

hmm

Bettman: Hi Ed, what's on your mind

Snider: Comcast is looking to put some major cash into the NHL...on one condition

Bettman: That would be great, what's the catch

Snider: Connor McDavid

Well, that is pretty much how the real world works, so.....
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 17 @ 9:41 AM ET
This bottom ten seems very spot on.
Flyers could finish in the bottom 3 if G. Jake, or Mase miss any significant time.

- Marc D


True, though I think Carolina and Edmonton are well on their way to locking up the final 2 spots.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 17 @ 9:41 AM ET
Coburn, macdonald, and grossman will get injured prior to the deadline becoming untradable. Manning, lauridsen, alt will come up and the team will go on a streak playing simple hockey. flyer go from bottom 3 to bottom 12. Sound familiar?
- Just5


You be quiet
3flyerkids
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Dec 17 @ 9:42 AM ET
Here's how I see the divisions finishing, the starred teams make the playoffs

Tampa*
Boston*
Montreal*
Detroit*
Toronto*
Florida
Ottawa
Buffalo

Pittsburgh*
NY Islanders*
NY Rangers*
Washington
Columbus
Philadelphia
New Jersey
Carolina

St. Louis*
Chicago*
Nashville*
Minnesota*
Winnipeg
Dallas
Colorado

Anaheim*
San Jose*
Los Angeles*
Vancouver*
Calgary
Arizona
Edmonton

- BiggE


Can't argue with that. As long as the Flyers get lucky and by some miracle get a lottery ball within the 1-2 range
3flyerkids
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Dec 17 @ 9:42 AM ET
That would work for me

hmm

Bettman: Hi Ed, what's on your mind

Snider: Comcast is looking to put some major cash into the NHL...on one condition

Bettman: That would be great, what's the catch

Snider: Connor McDavid

Well, that is pretty much how the real world works, so.....

- BiggE


PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Dec 17 @ 9:46 AM ET
Coburn, macdonald, and grossman will get injured prior to the deadline becoming untradable. Manning, lauridsen, alt will come up and the team will go on a streak playing simple hockey. flyer go from bottom 3 to bottom 12. Sound familiar?
- Just5


Oh, this will definitely happen
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Dec 17 @ 9:48 AM ET
Coburn, macdonald, and grossman will get injured prior to the deadline becoming untradable. Manning, lauridsen, alt will come up and the team will go on a streak playing simple hockey. flyer go from bottom 3 to bottom 12. Sound familiar?
- Just5

If this starts to happen Hexy will force VLC back into the line up.
Not worried about the tank getting off the tracks this season.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Dec 17 @ 9:49 AM ET
As of now, I think the top 10 picks will look like this:

1. Oilers
2. Hurricanes
3. Sabres
4. Coyotes
5. Devils
6. Blue Jackets
7. Flyers
8. Avalanche
9. Florida
10. Dallas

- NickTheKid87


Sabres and Blue Jackets both finish ahead of the Flyers. Maybe even the Devils the way things are going for the Flyers. This next road trip will set the stage.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 17 @ 9:50 AM ET
If this starts to happen Hexy will force VLC back into the line up.
Not worried about the tank getting off the tracks this season.

- Marc D


poop just make the first line: Umberger-Vinny-Rinaldo

Guaranteed top 3 pick!
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 17 @ 9:50 AM ET
I understand that.

BUt you act like MacDonald's skill set can't be found somewhere else or for cheaper.

I guess I just don't understand where you want this team to go because you onctinually defend the mediocrity on this team.

At his cap hit and contract I expect more then being ok in my own zone as pretty much his only skill. Yes he can make a nice outlet pass but so can Luke schenn.

- J35Bacher



A team is a collection of it's parts. What I won't do is criticze a 2nd pair defenseman, or a 3rd pair defenseman and call them mediocre, because the Flyers lack a legitimate top defense pair. MacDonald is far more then a decent outlet passer, who is comparable to Luke Schenn in that department. MacDonald is a solid all around 2nd pair defenseman. Who was arguably the team's best defenseman last night.
Where I want this team to do is to continue to improve, and remain patient for the right moves to present themselves. Rather then get involved in the wheelings and dealings that the fans seem to want.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Dec 17 @ 9:50 AM ET
True, though I think Carolina and Edmonton are well on their way to locking up the final 2 spots.
- BiggE

Could EDM get a lift with the coaching change?

I wonder with some of the talent they have how they can be so bad?

If they had a real goalie I think it would make a world of difference.
3flyerkids
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Dec 17 @ 9:51 AM ET
poop just make the first line: Umberger-Vinny-Rinaldo

Guaranteed top 3 pick!

- BiggE


That would be a lock. Just do it!
You could even put Valveeta in the mix
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Dec 17 @ 9:53 AM ET
Could EDM get a lift with the coaching change?

I wonder with some of the talent they have how they can be so bad?

If they had a real goalie I think it would make a world of difference.

- Marc D


I agree. I know the Isles made several moves to bolster the blue line and forward depth, but getting Halak, a legitimate starting goalie, has been huge for them.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 17 @ 9:53 AM ET
My biggest frustration with Amac is he is very average offensively.
More often then not his shot is blocked or misses the net.

Matt Carle did more on offense even with his weak "muffin top" shot then AMac is giving them this year.

Amac is an OK player all around. But for a "puck mover" they get very little shot or even set ups in the O zone from him.

I'd much rather have Stralman Erhoff or even a guy like Johnny Oduya then Amac right now for the contract.

I guess some players as UFAs may take less $ to play for a better team.

- Marc D



I agree with this. I'd like to see MacDonald become more aggressive both offensively and defensively. He has the wheels to be able to jump up in the play, fill some holes, and become dangerous trailing the rush. I thought he made some smart plays with the puck a the point last night. He didn't have clear shooting lanes, so he smartly shot the puck wide, and it created some dangerous situations around the net.
WarriorHockey21
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.09.2012

Dec 17 @ 9:53 AM ET
Could EDM get a lift with the coaching change?

I wonder with some of the talent they have how they can be so bad?

If they had a real goalie I think it would make a world of difference.

- Marc D


They need Bryz back!!
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 17 @ 9:56 AM ET
Thanks Bill. Guess who was on the ice for the first two goals against the Flyers? Coby. Nice. Dump him while you can, and at least get some picks.
Scotty L continues to impress. I can definitely see him wearing the C next. He learns from his mistakes, he doesn't quit on a play, and plays a two way game. What more could you ask for. G don't look over your shoulder.

- OrangeAndBlack1



Was Coburn at fault for any of those goals, or does that matter? Was it Coburn's fault that Streit couldn't execute a simple switch on the Stamkos goal, and basically took Coburn out of the play, or does that matter?

Laughton will not be wearing the C anytime soon.
PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

Dec 17 @ 9:58 AM ET
The Flyers will be go 13-1-4 down the stretch and finish 4 points out of the playoffs and pick 14th.

EDIT: They will be in the bottom 5 prior.

- NickTheKid87


could have had seth jones. could have had him have they not go on that pointless run
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