Maybe dial it back a notch there pal. Jmatchett is good people. He's been posting here a lot longer than you have, so maybe stop trying to be the arbiter of who can play here and who can't...MMMkay?
- Emperor Filonius

He's been here longer so he's right? I don't like his tone, I told him so, I have every right, emperor

I feel bad for anyone who might have not been online today, who is going to come home and have to sift through this thread.
- hardnosed

srsly, it's like DVRing the game: if you didn't see it live, you might as well just check the box score

He's been here longer so he's right? I don't like his tone, I told him so, I have every right, emperor
- Dcoms

Calm down sweet cheeks. Let's make out and put it behind us.

He's been here longer so he's right? I don't like his tone, I told him so, I have every right, emperor
- Dcoms

You don't have the right to speak for everybody, though. And you did speak for everybody.

don't be a Richard, be a dude

Thank you sir, much appreciated.

In all honesty, yes, I'm a Flyers fan first and foremost. Not gonna hide that. But I grew up when the rivalry between the teams was 0, and was a fan of the Lemieux/Jagr/Stevens teams, and have always liked the Penguins. Plus, my wife is from Pittsburgh, so I follow them pretty closely, but feel I can offer a bit of a less-biased view at times. Hope most of you can appreciate that.
- jmatchett383

keep up with all the posts

Giroux/B.Schenn and a 2nd for Hall (that's the price for Oilers fans)

Calm down sweet cheeks. Let's make out and put it behind us.
- jmatchett383

You're making it too easy to make a Giroux joke, but I digress.

keep up with all the posts

Giroux/B.Schenn and a 2nd for Hall (that's the price for Oilers fans)
- Barnaby36

I'm not surprised that's the asking price. Again, as a fan, "Our players are more valuable than your players."

How about Letang, Maatta, and a 1st? Edmonton gets the big pieces it needs on the back end, and a draft pick to help with the rererebuild. Might even keep them from needing to trade all their other big pieces.
- BulliesPhan87

A winger likely isn't worth the top defense pairing on an elite regular season team, even if it is an Eastern Conference team. I'm not sure a C would be, either.

Tyler Seguin was traded for Reilly Smith, Matt Fraser, and Joe Morrow. Boston threw in some scrub. Tyler Seguin is a right-handed two-way C and has higher regular season career goal totals (high of 37 vs 27) and one more career NHL goal. One is currently leading the NHL in goals and in points; the other is 105th with a whopping 18 points including 0 game winning goals. I don't understand therefore why Taylor Hall would be such an asset to return 3:1 if he is any better on a decent team.

So, two things:
1) I would consider trading Olli Maatta and Kris Letang together simply because it means that Pittsburgh trades Kris Letang, but not for Taylor Hall. I would take a cue from the hockey hurts blog and target Shea Weber instead.
2) Pittsburgh should avoid being a part in Edmonton's draft redo. They selected the wrong players time and again. If Pittsburgh ends up with Hall or Yak then Pittsburgh ends up with the wrong players.

What the hell is that stick curve about on the last page?

You're making it too easy to make a Giroux joke, but I digress.
- Dcoms

Hey, I don't care if the Flyers are playing a 10-on-10 game of grabass after every game if the can win a Stanley Cup.

A winger likely isn't worth the top defense pairing on an elite regular season team, even if it is an Eastern Conference team. I'm not sure a C would be, either.

Tyler Seguin was traded for Reilly Smith, Matt Fraser, and Joe Morrow. Boston threw in some scrub. Tyler Seguin is a right-handed two-way C and has higher regular season career goal totals (high of 37 vs 27) and one more career NHL goal. One is currently leading the NHL in goals and in points; the other is 105th with a whopping 18 points including 0 game winning goals. I don't understand therefore why Taylor Hall would be such an asset to return 3:1 if he is any better on a decent team.

So, two things:
1) I would consider trading Olli Maatta and Kris Letang together simply because it means that Pittsburgh trades Kris Letang, but not for Taylor Hall. I would take a cue from the hockey hurts blog and target Shea Weber instead.
2) Pittsburgh should avoid being a part in Edmonton's draft redo. They selected the wrong players time and again. If Pittsburgh ends up with Hall or Yak then Pittsburgh ends up with the wrong players.

What the hell is that stick curve about on the last page?
- Johnny Wrath

I can't believe I agree with you almost 100%

You don't have the right to speak for everybody, though. And you did speak for everybody.

don't be a Richard, be a dude
- BulliesPhan87

A winger likely isn't worth the top defense pairing on an elite regular season team, even if it is an Eastern Conference team. I'm not sure a C would be, either.

Tyler Seguin was traded for Reilly Smith, Matt Fraser, and Joe Morrow. Boston threw in some scrub. Tyler Seguin is a right-handed two-way C and has higher regular season career goal totals (high of 37 vs 27) and one more career NHL goal. One is currently leading the NHL in goals and in points; the other is 105th with a whopping 18 points including 0 game winning goals. I don't understand therefore why Taylor Hall would be such an asset to return 3:1 if he is any better on a decent team.

So, two things:
1) I would consider trading Olli Maatta and Kris Letang together simply because it means that Pittsburgh trades Kris Letang, but not for Taylor Hall. I would take a cue from the hockey hurts blog and target Shea Weber instead.
2) Pittsburgh should avoid being a part in Edmonton's draft redo. They selected the wrong players time and again. If Pittsburgh ends up with Hall or Yak then Pittsburgh ends up with the wrong players.

What the hell is that stick curve about on the last page?
- Johnny Wrath

You forgot Loui Eriksson in that Seguin trade. Not the best trade Boston's ever made.

Anyways, the final price would probably be lower, but that's the kind of damage I expect Edmonton's probably looking to do if they're going to trade their supposed elite winger.

Hey, I don't care if the Flyers are playing a 10-on-10 game of grabass after every game if the can win a Stanley Cup.
- jmatchett383

Now you're making it too easy to make a how did the whole flyers team catch the mumps in the same instant joke.

You forgot Loui Eriksson in that Seguin trade. Not the best trade Boston's ever made.

Anyways, the final price would probably be lower, but that's the kind of damage Edmonton's probably looking to do if they're going to trade their supposed elite winger.
- BulliesPhan87

Loui Eriksson was averaging 70+ points a season with the Stars before he was traded. At the time, it was a big haul.

A winger likely isn't worth the top defense pairing on an elite regular season team, even if it is an Eastern Conference team. I'm not sure a C would be, either.

Tyler Seguin was traded for Reilly Smith, Matt Fraser, and Joe Morrow. Boston threw in some scrub. Tyler Seguin is a right-handed two-way C and has higher regular season career goal totals (high of 37 vs 27) and one more career NHL goal. One is currently leading the NHL in goals and in points; the other is 105th with a whopping 18 points including 0 game winning goals. I don't understand therefore why Taylor Hall would be such an asset to return 3:1 if he is any better on a decent team.

So, two things:
1) I would consider trading Olli Maatta and Kris Letang together simply because it means that Pittsburgh trades Kris Letang, but not for Taylor Hall. I would take a cue from the hockey hurts blog and target Shea Weber instead.
2) Pittsburgh should avoid being a part in Edmonton's draft redo. They selected the wrong players time and again. If Pittsburgh ends up with Hall or Yak then Pittsburgh ends up with the wrong players.

What the hell is that stick curve about on the last page?
- Johnny Wrath

Disagree with that, Hall put up 80 points on a terrible Oilers team, that is terribly mismanaged. As of right now no one on that team is going to succeed in Edmonton. Putting one of the best left wingers in the NHL on Pittsburgh is a win for them, definitely not ending up with the wrong players.


The stick was ROR's stick curve, he does some crazy toe curve thing. Not really sure why.

Hey, I don't care if the Flyers are playing a 10-on-10 game of grabass after every game if the can win a Stanley Cup.
- jmatchett383

That's a lotta ass...

You forgot Loui Eriksson in that Seguin trade. Not the best trade Boston's ever made.

Anyways, the final price would probably be lower, but that's the kind of damage I expect Edmonton's probably looking to do if they're going to trade their supposed elite winger.
- BulliesPhan87

You're right, I neglected to type his name in there after thinking out that deal. He's made a similar amount of impact in Boston.

Edmonton has exactly one shot to make things right, so you're correct about the return. I think they'll do something stupid and accept better pieces that amount to a worse whole then a deal for what their needs are.

srsly, it's like DVRing the game: if you didn't see it live, you might as well just check the box score
- BulliesPhan87

Yeah, I don't know how people do the DVR thing. I've tried it, and I end up just fast forwarding the whole time.

You're right, I neglected to type his name in there after thinking out that deal. He's made a similar amount of impact in Boston.

Edmonton has exactly one shot to make things right, so you're correct about the return. I think they'll do something stupid and accept better pieces that amount to a worse whole then a deal for what their needs are.
- Johnny Wrath

If they trade their guys right now, I think you're right: Edmonton will probably blow it. Given their status as a perpetual mess, I don't think they're dealing from a position of strength.

Disagree with that, Hall put up 80 points on a terrible Oilers team, that is terribly mismanaged. As of right now no one on that team is going to succeed in Edmonton. Putting one of the best left wingers in the NHL on Pittsburgh is a win for them, definitely not ending up with the wrong players.


The stick was ROR's stick curve, he does some crazy toe curve thing. Not really sure why.
- j.boyd919

He was asked about it, said its custom made and forces him to pass or shoot of the heel or center of the blade, and it aids in wrap-around or spin-a-rama moves.

Penalty minutes to Bartley is like puck possession to Mike Johnston
- YouMeAndDupuis9

Yeah, I don't know how people do the DVR thing. I've tried it, and I end up just fast forwarding the whole time.
- hardnosed

By the time you sit to watch the game, you probably already know the final score. Useless.

A winger likely isn't worth the top defense pairing on an elite regular season team, even if it is an Eastern Conference team. I'm not sure a C would be, either.

Tyler Seguin was traded for Reilly Smith, Matt Fraser, and Joe Morrow. Boston threw in some scrub. Tyler Seguin is a right-handed two-way C and has higher regular season career goal totals (high of 37 vs 27) and one more career NHL goal. One is currently leading the NHL in goals and in points; the other is 105th with a whopping 18 points including 0 game winning goals. I don't understand therefore why Taylor Hall would be such an asset to return 3:1 if he is any better on a decent team.

So, two things:
1) I would consider trading Olli Maatta and Kris Letang together simply because it means that Pittsburgh trades Kris Letang, but not for Taylor Hall. I would take a cue from the hockey hurts blog and target Shea Weber instead.
2) Pittsburgh should avoid being a part in Edmonton's draft redo. They selected the wrong players time and again. If Pittsburgh ends up with Hall or Yak then Pittsburgh ends up with the wrong players.

What the hell is that stick curve about on the last page?
- Johnny Wrath

There is alot of truth in this. I want no part of an Edmonton rebuild either. I think Hall would be very good here, but I'm not willing to pay the price it would take to get him. It makes little sense from a cap standpoint and a resource standpoint. All we have to do is look at the Rick Nash deal. It gutted the Rags depth. Make a deal for Hall, you do the same here. Can't afford to take on another high priced salary as well since this is a capped league. I have zero desire to see Yak here. They want $2.00 of return on investment when in all reality, he is worth 0.58. His stock isn't good.

Nah man, the new guy clearly speaks for the thread. We're unwanted and also dumb.
- BulliesPhan87

What he doesn't realize is coming here is your therapy...you know you and JMatch are just dying to come fully over to the side of goodness and light anyways.

Disagree with that, Hall put up 80 points on a terrible Oilers team, that is terribly mismanaged. As of right now no one on that team is going to succeed in Edmonton. Putting one of the best left wingers in the NHL on Pittsburgh is a win for them, definitely not ending up with the wrong players.


The stick was ROR's stick curve, he does some crazy toe curve thing. Not really sure why.
- j.boyd919

The if is in the argument. I'm still not sold on Hall as an elite goal scorer that commands a huge trade return.

John LeClair form his prime. How did he ever do anything with that except go shelf from within the blue paint?