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dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Dec 18 @ 10:02 PM ET
213.5-90.5


cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Dec 18 @ 10:02 PM ET
Wonder if it works with the iphone...
- jochfr


I can't tell ya till I talk to my daughter. she has one ans knows all that internetspecialbuttonpostcrap things.
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Dec 18 @ 10:03 PM ET
213.5-90.5



- dadeadhead


Ugh, I was basically tied after last night, now I'm down 50
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Dec 18 @ 10:04 PM ET
213.5-90.5



- dadeadhead


Taresanko just started and Berneir hasn't updated yet

Cabins Misfits 260.50
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mhp
Buffalo Sabres
Location: PROUD MEMBER OF RED SOX NATION SINCE 1975!!!! , SD
Joined: 01.14.2008

Dec 18 @ 10:06 PM ET
BUFFALO, NY -- I'm not convinced the Edmonton Oilers are truly ready to move on from Taylor Hall. But if they are, the Buffalo Sabres should be right at the front of the line.
It seems as though the Sabres and Oilers have been perfect trade partners for years, but have never been able to make a deal. Buffalo has a stacked cupboard and can likely outbid any team in a trade offer for the former first-overall pick.


The Oilers are in need of prospects, defense, goaltending, and top-six forward. In other words, pretty much everything. Luckily, for the Oilers, the Sabres can provide all of those needs.
The return the Oilers would get for Hall should be a small fortune. The 23-year-old winger has a lot of value and is a budding star. Any team interested in acquiring Hall better be ready to give up some big pieces.

When/if this trade happens, the Oilers need to look like they won the trade without question. That is the only way this move makes sense for Edmonton.

On the blueline, the Sabres have a few pieces they can offer the Oilers.

First off, Rasmus Ristolainen and Nikita Zadorov are non-starters. With that being said, the Sabres do have a big defenseman to offer in the form of 6-foot-8 Tyler Myers.

Myers is getting huge minutes for Buffalo and is playing more consistent hockey. He and Hall would be two huge names and could be part of one of the biggest blockbusters in some time. Myers would provide the Oilers with a top defenseman and offense from the backend.

Another player from the blueline the Sabres can dangle in front of the Oilers is Mark Pysyk. The former 2010 first-round pick is waiting to get back into the Sabres lineup while he develops in Rochester of the AHL. Pysyk has shown he can play at the NHL level, but still needs to refine a few aspects of his game. The depth the Sabres have on the blueline with prospects like Jake McCabe in the system makes Pysyk a viable option. If Pysyk was to be included a bigger piece would need to be added from another position.

If Edmonton is looking to pick up a forward, as well, the Sabres can add a player like Cody Hodgson to the deal. Hodgson has struggled this season, but is playing a lot better after being a healthy scratch. I believe Hodgson could benefit from a change of scenery and the chance to be a top winger. The 24-year-old winger has always had the talent to be successful, but has struggled with consistency. After this season, Hodgson has four years remaining on his current contract.

The Oilers are in desperate need of goaltending help and the Sabres have two goalies that could be a fit. Jhonas Enroth has been on fire over the past three weeks. I wouldn't be afraid to include Enroth in the deal, but would push Michal Neuvirth first.

Neuvirth has also had a decent season. The Czech goaltender is deserving of another shot to start in the NHL. Though, I try to keep Enroth because the Sabres themselves need a starting goaltender.

Now we get to the picks and prospects. The Sabres have plenty of both to offer. What the Sabres have that no other team can match is three 2015 first round picks.

The Sabres first round pick is not an option, but the picks that belong to the Islanders and Blues are absolutely in play.

The prospect pool is also deep for the Sabres. Buffalo could include the following players in a deal to sweeten the pot; Brendan Lemieux, Nick Baptiste, William Carrier, Hudson Fasching, and Cal Petersen.

I would start the trade discussion with the following offer to the Oilers:

Myers + Neuvirth + Hodgson + Islanders 2015 1st round pick + Prospect
Sabres receive: Taylor Hall + Viktor Fasth

If it takes Enroth over Neuvirth to make the deal happen, I wouldn't shy away from that, either.

The important thing to remember in any trade is the salary cap. According to capgeek.com, the Oilers have roughly $5 million in cap space. Trading Hall and Fasth would leave the Oilers with around $14 million in cap space. Myers, Neuvirth, and Hodgson would fill $12.25 million of that. The Sabres can retain some of Neuvirth's expiring contract to help the deal.

At the end of the day, picks, prospects, goaltenders, roster players; the Sabres have it all. If Sabres GM Tim Murray covets Hall, and the Oilers do end up moving him, the Sabres can make an offer many teams can't match.


From fourth Period
Sorry, i'm not very good with trying to paste links.

- SABRES 89


Thanks 89. It's a pretty interesting proposal and there certainly are parts to get a deal working. An Oiler fan commented in the article that he would take Myers, Enroth and a mid round pick for Hall and Fasth. Sign me up.
Herzeleid
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Victor Hedman and Kucherov can go f themselves. Twice.
Joined: 06.21.2013

Dec 18 @ 10:07 PM ET
Has anyone mentioned that the canes won and philly got a point?
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Dec 18 @ 10:08 PM ET
Thanks 89. It's a pretty interesting proposal and there certainly are parts to get a deal working. An Oiler fan commented in the article that he would take Myers, Enroth and a mid round pick for Hall and Fasth. Sign me up.
- mhp


I would do that right now and the 1st over all would become easily in reach. Noworth would grow up pretty quik.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Dec 18 @ 10:09 PM ET
Has anyone mentioned that the canes won and philly got a point?
- Herzeleid


Not yet .. Thanks for the good news
Herzeleid
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Victor Hedman and Kucherov can go f themselves. Twice.
Joined: 06.21.2013

Dec 18 @ 10:11 PM ET
winning 233.50 - 175.00

Bishop, Schwartz, Trouba all missing games.
mhp
Buffalo Sabres
Location: PROUD MEMBER OF RED SOX NATION SINCE 1975!!!! , SD
Joined: 01.14.2008

Dec 18 @ 10:11 PM ET
I would do that right now and the 1st over all would become easily in reach. Noworth would grow up pretty quik.
- cabin



Agreed. Seems like their are pieces we have that the Oilers could be interested in.
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Dec 18 @ 10:11 PM ET
Has anyone mentioned that the canes won and philly got a point?
- Herzeleid


Columbus got a point too
mhp
Buffalo Sabres
Location: PROUD MEMBER OF RED SOX NATION SINCE 1975!!!! , SD
Joined: 01.14.2008

Dec 18 @ 10:13 PM ET
Has anyone mentioned that the canes won and philly got a point?
- Herzeleid



We move up from 22nd to 25th.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Dec 18 @ 10:14 PM ET


True story, I signed up because our old Jimmer wasn't around anymore and we were getting trolled incessantly. I wanted to be able to remove people who were being Richards for the sake of it.

- nfph



I offered and apologized for my past sins.


It didn't work.
Herzeleid
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Victor Hedman and Kucherov can go f themselves. Twice.
Joined: 06.21.2013

Dec 18 @ 10:21 PM ET
Columbus got a point too
- stashu


True, not worried about them though with Bob/Dub back
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Dec 18 @ 10:21 PM ET
I think joch blew up his phone trying...
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Dec 18 @ 10:30 PM ET
Thanks 89. It's a pretty interesting proposal and there certainly are parts to get a deal working. An Oiler fan commented in the article that he would take Myers, Enroth and a mid round pick for Hall and Fasth. Sign me up.
- mhp

They will sure have a lot of offers if he is put on the block.
mhp
Buffalo Sabres
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Dec 18 @ 10:36 PM ET
They will sure have a lot of offers if he is put on the block.
- SABRES 89


29 other GM's will line up with offers, yes. If Hall gets moved, I would think it will come in the off season, maybe prior to the draft.
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
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Dec 18 @ 10:38 PM ET
29 other GM's will line up with offers, yes. If Hall gets moved, I would think it will come in the off season, maybe prior to the draft.
- mhp

Hard to say, it seems like the Oliers are " tanking" no matter what.
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
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Dec 18 @ 10:39 PM ET
Sutter calls out Quick....wow
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Dec 18 @ 10:46 PM ET
https://sports.yahoo.com/...day-tumble-214433282.html

hahahah

rmiethaner
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 10.04.2006

Dec 18 @ 11:00 PM ET
If Taylor Hall is on your team, would you trade him?

Do you think Boston regrets trading Seguin?

Edmonton is not trading Hall for anything, nor do I blame them.
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Dec 18 @ 11:02 PM ET
I think joch blew up his phone trying...
- stashu

Couldn't get it to work so I quit.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Dec 18 @ 11:18 PM ET
Cody Hodgson for Gardiner

Gardiner plays the PP and almost nothing else
Herzeleid
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Victor Hedman and Kucherov can go f themselves. Twice.
Joined: 06.21.2013

Dec 18 @ 11:18 PM ET
Edmonton actually up 1-0. plz plz plz plz plz plz plz plz plz plz plz win
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Dec 18 @ 11:38 PM ET
Cody Hodgson for Gardiner

Gardiner plays the PP and almost nothing else

- sbroads24

Sooooooooooo that's more then Hodgson plays
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