dadeadhead
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Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY Joined: 07.16.2006
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cabin
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Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY Joined: 09.07.2006
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Wonder if it works with the iphone... - jochfr
I can't tell ya till I talk to my daughter. she has one ans knows all that internetspecialbuttonpostcrap things. |
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stashu
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: SC Joined: 06.04.2008
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213.5-90.5
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Ugh, I was basically tied after last night, now I'm down 50 |
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Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY Joined: 09.07.2006
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213.5-90.5
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Taresanko just started and Berneir hasn't updated yet
Cabins Misfits 260.50
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mhp
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Location: PROUD MEMBER OF RED SOX NATION SINCE 1975!!!! , SD Joined: 01.14.2008
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BUFFALO, NY -- I'm not convinced the Edmonton Oilers are truly ready to move on from Taylor Hall. But if they are, the Buffalo Sabres should be right at the front of the line.
It seems as though the Sabres and Oilers have been perfect trade partners for years, but have never been able to make a deal. Buffalo has a stacked cupboard and can likely outbid any team in a trade offer for the former first-overall pick.
The Oilers are in need of prospects, defense, goaltending, and top-six forward. In other words, pretty much everything. Luckily, for the Oilers, the Sabres can provide all of those needs.
The return the Oilers would get for Hall should be a small fortune. The 23-year-old winger has a lot of value and is a budding star. Any team interested in acquiring Hall better be ready to give up some big pieces.
When/if this trade happens, the Oilers need to look like they won the trade without question. That is the only way this move makes sense for Edmonton.
On the blueline, the Sabres have a few pieces they can offer the Oilers.
First off, Rasmus Ristolainen and Nikita Zadorov are non-starters. With that being said, the Sabres do have a big defenseman to offer in the form of 6-foot-8 Tyler Myers.
Myers is getting huge minutes for Buffalo and is playing more consistent hockey. He and Hall would be two huge names and could be part of one of the biggest blockbusters in some time. Myers would provide the Oilers with a top defenseman and offense from the backend.
Another player from the blueline the Sabres can dangle in front of the Oilers is Mark Pysyk. The former 2010 first-round pick is waiting to get back into the Sabres lineup while he develops in Rochester of the AHL. Pysyk has shown he can play at the NHL level, but still needs to refine a few aspects of his game. The depth the Sabres have on the blueline with prospects like Jake McCabe in the system makes Pysyk a viable option. If Pysyk was to be included a bigger piece would need to be added from another position.
If Edmonton is looking to pick up a forward, as well, the Sabres can add a player like Cody Hodgson to the deal. Hodgson has struggled this season, but is playing a lot better after being a healthy scratch. I believe Hodgson could benefit from a change of scenery and the chance to be a top winger. The 24-year-old winger has always had the talent to be successful, but has struggled with consistency. After this season, Hodgson has four years remaining on his current contract.
The Oilers are in desperate need of goaltending help and the Sabres have two goalies that could be a fit. Jhonas Enroth has been on fire over the past three weeks. I wouldn't be afraid to include Enroth in the deal, but would push Michal Neuvirth first.
Neuvirth has also had a decent season. The Czech goaltender is deserving of another shot to start in the NHL. Though, I try to keep Enroth because the Sabres themselves need a starting goaltender.
Now we get to the picks and prospects. The Sabres have plenty of both to offer. What the Sabres have that no other team can match is three 2015 first round picks.
The Sabres first round pick is not an option, but the picks that belong to the Islanders and Blues are absolutely in play.
The prospect pool is also deep for the Sabres. Buffalo could include the following players in a deal to sweeten the pot; Brendan Lemieux, Nick Baptiste, William Carrier, Hudson Fasching, and Cal Petersen.
I would start the trade discussion with the following offer to the Oilers:
Myers + Neuvirth + Hodgson + Islanders 2015 1st round pick + Prospect
Sabres receive: Taylor Hall + Viktor Fasth
If it takes Enroth over Neuvirth to make the deal happen, I wouldn't shy away from that, either.
The important thing to remember in any trade is the salary cap. According to capgeek.com, the Oilers have roughly $5 million in cap space. Trading Hall and Fasth would leave the Oilers with around $14 million in cap space. Myers, Neuvirth, and Hodgson would fill $12.25 million of that. The Sabres can retain some of Neuvirth's expiring contract to help the deal.
At the end of the day, picks, prospects, goaltenders, roster players; the Sabres have it all. If Sabres GM Tim Murray covets Hall, and the Oilers do end up moving him, the Sabres can make an offer many teams can't match.
From fourth Period
Sorry, i'm not very good with trying to paste links. - SABRES 89
Thanks 89. It's a pretty interesting proposal and there certainly are parts to get a deal working. An Oiler fan commented in the article that he would take Myers, Enroth and a mid round pick for Hall and Fasth. Sign me up.
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Herzeleid
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Location: Victor Hedman and Kucherov can go f themselves. Twice. Joined: 06.21.2013
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Has anyone mentioned that the canes won and philly got a point? |
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Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY Joined: 09.07.2006
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Thanks 89. It's a pretty interesting proposal and there certainly are parts to get a deal working. An Oiler fan commented in the article that he would take Myers, Enroth and a mid round pick for Hall and Fasth. Sign me up. - mhp
I would do that right now and the 1st over all would become easily in reach. Noworth would grow up pretty quik. |
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Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY Joined: 09.07.2006
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Has anyone mentioned that the canes won and philly got a point? - Herzeleid
Not yet .. Thanks for the good news |
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Herzeleid
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Location: Victor Hedman and Kucherov can go f themselves. Twice. Joined: 06.21.2013
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winning 233.50 - 175.00
Bishop, Schwartz, Trouba all missing games. |
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mhp
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Location: PROUD MEMBER OF RED SOX NATION SINCE 1975!!!! , SD Joined: 01.14.2008
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I would do that right now and the 1st over all would become easily in reach. Noworth would grow up pretty quik. - cabin
Agreed. Seems like their are pieces we have that the Oilers could be interested in. |
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stashu
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: SC Joined: 06.04.2008
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Has anyone mentioned that the canes won and philly got a point? - Herzeleid
Columbus got a point too |
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mhp
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: PROUD MEMBER OF RED SOX NATION SINCE 1975!!!! , SD Joined: 01.14.2008
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Has anyone mentioned that the canes won and philly got a point? - Herzeleid
We move up from 22nd to 25th. |
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dadeadhead
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Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY Joined: 07.16.2006
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True story, I signed up because our old Jimmer wasn't around anymore and we were getting trolled incessantly. I wanted to be able to remove people who were being Richards for the sake of it. - nfph
I offered and apologized for my past sins.
It didn't work. |
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Herzeleid
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Location: Victor Hedman and Kucherov can go f themselves. Twice. Joined: 06.21.2013
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Columbus got a point too - stashu
True, not worried about them though with Bob/Dub back |
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stashu
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Location: SC Joined: 06.04.2008
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I think joch blew up his phone trying... |
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SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y. Joined: 02.17.2007
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Thanks 89. It's a pretty interesting proposal and there certainly are parts to get a deal working. An Oiler fan commented in the article that he would take Myers, Enroth and a mid round pick for Hall and Fasth. Sign me up. - mhp
They will sure have a lot of offers if he is put on the block. |
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mhp
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Location: PROUD MEMBER OF RED SOX NATION SINCE 1975!!!! , SD Joined: 01.14.2008
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They will sure have a lot of offers if he is put on the block. - SABRES 89
29 other GM's will line up with offers, yes. If Hall gets moved, I would think it will come in the off season, maybe prior to the draft.
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SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y. Joined: 02.17.2007
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29 other GM's will line up with offers, yes. If Hall gets moved, I would think it will come in the off season, maybe prior to the draft. - mhp
Hard to say, it seems like the Oliers are " tanking" no matter what. |
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SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y. Joined: 02.17.2007
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Sutter calls out Quick....wow |
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stashu
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: SC Joined: 06.04.2008
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rmiethaner
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Buffalo, NY Joined: 10.04.2006
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If Taylor Hall is on your team, would you trade him?
Do you think Boston regrets trading Seguin?
Edmonton is not trading Hall for anything, nor do I blame them. |
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jochfr
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Nashville , TN Joined: 07.11.2009
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I think joch blew up his phone trying... - stashu
Couldn't get it to work so I quit. |
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sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY Joined: 02.12.2012
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Cody Hodgson for Gardiner
Gardiner plays the PP and almost nothing else |
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Herzeleid
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Location: Victor Hedman and Kucherov can go f themselves. Twice. Joined: 06.21.2013
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Edmonton actually up 1-0. plz plz plz plz plz plz plz plz plz plz plz win |
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SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y. Joined: 02.17.2007
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Cody Hodgson for Gardiner
Gardiner plays the PP and almost nothing else - sbroads24
Sooooooooooo that's more then Hodgson plays |
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