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rapperray
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Buffalo Sabres
Location: Thank God I don't live in NY anymore, NY
Joined: 02.22.2007

Dec 19 @ 10:49 AM ET
I want to wish everyone a Merry Christmas and best New Year ever.
Buffalo-Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I lost a bet, NY
Joined: 07.05.2007

Dec 19 @ 10:54 AM ET
I want to wish everyone a Merry Christmas and best New Year ever.
- rapperray



RAYYYYYYY
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Dec 19 @ 10:55 AM ET
I want to wish everyone a Merry Christmas and best New Year ever.
- rapperray



rapperray
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Thank God I don't live in NY anymore, NY
Joined: 02.22.2007

Dec 19 @ 10:55 AM ET
RAYYYYYYY
- Buffalo-Sabres



Hey dude.....
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Dec 19 @ 10:56 AM ET
Count DuMonet.

One of the greatest characters in any comedy movie.

Mel Brooks = genius.

- Der Kaiser

you look like the piss boy

and you look like a bucket of poop


love that movie
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Dec 19 @ 10:57 AM ET
I want to wish everyone a Merry Christmas and best New Year ever.
- rapperray

back at you, I left you a gift on the front porch


be careful it's hot


BuffaloHardHat
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I became insane, with long intervals of horrible sanity., NY
Joined: 11.27.2012

Dec 19 @ 10:58 AM ET
That's sad...but I am sure your father is looking down saying, "Damn good job, son! I'm proud of you!"
- Watchtower62

Thank you WT62 .
I sure hope so.
Merry Christmas to you and your family my friend.
Buffalo-Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I lost a bet, NY
Joined: 07.05.2007

Dec 19 @ 10:58 AM ET
Hey dude.....
- rapperray



Merry Christmas Ray
rapperray
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Thank God I don't live in NY anymore, NY
Joined: 02.22.2007

Dec 19 @ 11:00 AM ET
back at you, I left you a gift on the front porch


be careful it's hot



- homiedclown



Scummer.....
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Dec 19 @ 11:00 AM ET
you look like the piss boy

and you look like a bucket of poop


love that movie

- homiedclown

rapperray
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Thank God I don't live in NY anymore, NY
Joined: 02.22.2007

Dec 19 @ 11:00 AM ET
Merry Christmas Ray
- Buffalo-Sabres



back at ya Buff.....
rover16
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 08.09.2012

Dec 19 @ 11:02 AM ET
Anybody think that Tim Murry may be of the opinion that he wouldn't even trade Myers for Hall straight up?
- feetontheair22


nah. i think murray is ok with using myers to acquire a piece up front. plus, our team would be worse for the rest of this season, which probably helps our pick. also, taylor hall is somebody that could be flipped (not suggesting that he would be). essentially you would be getting taylor hall and hopefully a first line center in the draft for myers.
Carubba-Kaleta
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.27.2013

Dec 19 @ 11:03 AM ET
nah. i think murray is ok with using myers to acquire a piece up front. plus, our team would be worse for the rest of this season, which probably helps our pick. also, taylor hall is somebody that could be flipped (not suggesting that he would be). essentially you would be getting taylor hall and hopefully a first line center in the draft for myers.
- rover16

We are not getting hall!
theblueandgold
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Denzel, WA
Joined: 03.05.2009

Dec 19 @ 11:06 AM ET
Mantha, Pulkkinen, and a 1st keeps the convo going IMO.
- dadeadhead


The whole premise was that Mantha was untouchable. He said my proposal for only futures is the same thing as DET posters saying we cant give up Mantha, Jurco, Tatar, Nyquist for Myers. Which is fine, no deal. However, we actually HAVE assets in fair value to give up for Hall without giving up roster players. Its not quite the same.

Depends on who the prospect/players are.

Any good NHL GM (on a rebuilding team) IMO should have a lineup board and should have an idea of what their roster need/wants to look like in 2-3 years from now
I only want Murray to be targeting specific players that fit that idea of a lineup.

If he views Anthony Mantha or Taylor Hall a fixture on the top line for 10 years, and doesn't figure Myers on the top pairing, then make the deal

- sbroads24


Im certain Murray views a center core and defensive core as more important than the individual skill of any one player on a team. Hes continuously used the "LA model" for reference. In knowing this, even if he viewed Myers as a 2nd pairing guy, I dont think he'd be willing to give him up for a scoring winger.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Dec 19 @ 11:09 AM ET
The whole premise was that Mantha was untouchable. He said my proposal for only futures is the same thing as DET posters saying we cant give up Mantha, Jurco, Tatar, Nyquist for Myers. Which is fine, no deal. However, we actually HAVE assets in fair value to give up for Hall without giving up roster players. Its not quite the same.



Im certain Murray views a center core and defensive core as more important than the individual skill of any one player on a team. Hes continuously used the "LA model" for reference. In knowing this, even if he viewed Myers as a 2nd pairing guy, I dont think he'd be willing to give him up for a scoring winger.

- theblueandgold



I agree.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Dec 19 @ 11:11 AM ET
back at you, I left you a gift on the front porch


be careful it's hot



- homiedclown



http://youtu.be/gl6R5ROEaDY

Pure awesome. Norm just sh!tting all over this.

sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Dec 19 @ 11:14 AM ET
The whole premise was that Mantha was untouchable. He said my proposal for only futures is the same thing as DET posters saying we cant give up Mantha, Jurco, Tatar, Nyquist for Myers. Which is fine, no deal. However, we actually HAVE assets in fair value to give up for Hall without giving up roster players. Its not quite the same.



Im certain Murray views a center core and defensive core as more important than the individual skill of any one player on a team. Hes continuously used the "LA model" for reference. In knowing this, even if he viewed Myers as a 2nd pairing guy, I dont think he'd be willing to give him up for a scoring winger.

- theblueandgold

Yes we do, but other teams have assets as well.

The Coyotes are one. They could give a potential top 5 pick + a defensemen in Michalek or Gormley. Or Domi/Samuelsson + a 1st.

Hall and Myers are similar in a lot of ways.
Ones 23, the other is 24, both signed long term for 5.5 and 6.0 per season.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Dec 19 @ 11:15 AM ET
Yes we do, but other teams have assets as well.

The Coyotes are one. They could give a potential top 5 pick + a defensemen in Michalek or Gormley. Or Domi/Samuelsson + a 1st.

- sbroads24



If they want a #1 dman, neither are it.

Just saying.
theblueandgold
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Denzel, WA
Joined: 03.05.2009

Dec 19 @ 11:17 AM ET
Yes we do, but other teams have assets as well.

The Coyotes are one. They could give a potential top 5 pick + a defensemen in Michalek or Gormley. Or Domi/Samuelsson + a 1st.

- sbroads24


Why would Arizona even do that?..... We could do it and not deplete or stunt our rebuild. Arizona would take years to recover. Whats the sense in trading for Hall if you cant put players around him...
MCGUIZZY
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bay Area, CA
Joined: 06.20.2012

Dec 19 @ 11:18 AM ET
Anybody think that Tim Murry may be of the opinion that he wouldn't even trade Myers for Hall straight up?
- feetontheair22



No. Murray doesnt think that highly of Myers. He would do that deal im confident. Im also confident that Myers straight up is not enough to get Hall.
Watchtower62
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Utica, NY
Joined: 03.03.2009

Dec 19 @ 11:18 AM ET
Thank you WT62 .
I sure hope so.
Merry Christmas to you and your family my friend.

- BuffaloHardHat


same to yours bud. Keep that head up!
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Dec 19 @ 11:19 AM ET
http://youtu.be/gl6R5ROEaDY

Pure awesome. Norm just sh!tting all over this.


- dadeadhead


Norm is a far greater talent than lots of people who had much more monetary success.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Dec 19 @ 11:19 AM ET
If they want a #1 dman, neither are it.

Just saying.

- dadeadhead

Neither is Mark Pysyk or Jake McCabe...........
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Dec 19 @ 11:21 AM ET
Why would Arizona even do that?..... We could do it and not deplete or stunt our rebuild. Arizona would take years to recover. Whats the sense in trading for Hall if you cant put players around him...
- theblueandgold

Because if they are interested in adding a true top line player, here is there chance. They won't finish last to guarantee McEichel.

You said who else could offer a package that could include a potential top 5 pick. Arizona is one of them
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Dec 19 @ 11:22 AM ET
So it's settled... We're not getting Hall.
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