why do you always end up being "that guy?"
- Michael Pachla

I try, but I just cant help it. I blame Tyler Myers.

I try, but I just cant help it. I blame Tyler Myers.
- ImThatGuy

I'm interested in your point, Irish. Can you elaborate?
- CaptainRivet

Once the new contract was signed his game changed! For some to compare him to Weber/Linstrom is laughable!

When he played in the Jr's his game was a more aggressive, which in return took his game to the next level (see rookie season). He plays to conservative now in both ends of the rink and seems happy to just be a 3/4 defensemen and that frustrates me. Dont get me wrong, he is a good defensemen - but that's it for me.

The word "content" comes to mind!

Once the new contract was signed his game changed! For some to compare him to Weber/Linstrom is laughable!

When he played in the Jr's his game was a more aggressive, which in return took his game to the next level (see rookie season). He plays to conservative now in both ends of the rink and seems happy to just be a 3/4 defensemen and that frustrates me.
- Irish 14

Understandable.

You are right in that it seems like there's another level to his game that he's afraid to reach. I wish he would stop that dumb drop-pass in the neutral zone on the PP. And I wish he would stop hesitating to shoot the puck.

I do think he's a very good defenseman and I like him a lot. 6'8 right-handed defenseman who can skate 26 minues don't grow on trees, but if a guy like Hall is available, I wouldn't be opposed to trading him.

Once the new contract was signed his game changed! For some to compare him to Weber/Linstrom is laughable!

When he played in the Jr's his game was a more aggressive, which in return took his game to the next level (see rookie season). He plays to conservative now in both ends of the rink and seems happy to just be a 3/4 defensemen and that frustrates me.
- Irish 14

It may frusturate you. And No I never compared him to Lidstrom. I was just using your context of fighting. He is by far the Sabres best D-man this year and the Stats prove it.

The only D man to play over 500 Min this year for Buffalo.

He is top 20-30 in a lot of the advanced categories per 500 mins played in the NHL.

Understandable.

You are right in that it seems like there's another level to his game that he's afraid to reach. I wish he would stop that dumb drop-pass in the neutral zone on the PP. And I wish he would stop hesitating to shoot the puck.

I do think he's a very good defenseman and I like him a lot. 6'8 right-handed defenseman who can skate 26 minues don't grow on trees.
- CaptainRivet

I think from a physicality standpoint, he's already known as a repeat offender according to the league so that might have something to do with his approach. Although the bullpoop side of that is Chara destroys dudes and doesn't even get penalized.

Understandable.

You are right in that it seems like there's another level to his game that he's afraid to reach. I wish he would stop that dumb drop-pass in the neutral zone on the PP. And I wish he would stop hesitating to shoot the puck.

I do think he's a very good defenseman and I like him a lot. 6'8 right-handed defenseman who can skate 26 minues don't grow on trees, but if a guy like Hall is available, I wouldn't be opposed to trading him.
- CaptainRivet

Capt Riv - solid response. You are correct about a 6'8 defensemen growing on trees - if he is on Detroit/St. Louis he is a solid 3/4 player for them. But here he cannot be a #1 defensemen (not working).

Once the new contract was signed his game changed! For some to compare him to Weber/Linstrom is laughable!

When he played in the Jr's his game was a more aggressive, which in return took his game to the next level (see rookie season). He plays to conservative now in both ends of the rink and seems happy to just be a 3/4 defensemen and that frustrates me. Dont get me wrong, he is a good defensemen - but that's it for me.

The word "content" comes to mind!
- Irish 14

Pretty sure no one compares him to Lindstrom or Weber when they invoke their names, it's more to point out that you don't need to be a "complete player" and drop the gloves every few games to be a good defenseman.

My take on Myers:

To call him a 3/4 d-man is laughable (not just calling you out, Irish, so don't feel singled out in any way). He's NOT a surefire #1 in the way Weber and the like are, but on the vast majority of teams he'd likely be their #2 at worst, unless it's some situation like Myers has been in during the past where a team may pair someone else with their #1 for chemistry/complementary skills.

Despite Myers being a "#3/4 d-man", in a horrible game like last night he was -1, playing vs the more skilled players, most minutes, yet the real #3/4 d-men were a combined -5. It doesn't mean that Zadorov/Risto can't leapfrog over Myers in ability, but he's the best the team has - and I think that's dictated by the pretty well respected coach.

I think from a physicality standpoint, he's already known as a repeat offender according to the league so that might have something to do with his approach. Although the bullpoop side of that is Chara destroys dudes and doesn't even get penalized.
- Buffalo-Sabres

Chara wants to, there is a difference. You cant be clumpsy when you want to play physical and that might be Myers issue?

Pretty sure no one compares him to Lindstrom or Weber when they invoke their names, it's more to point out that you don't need to be a "complete player" and drop the gloves every few games to be a good defenseman.

My take on Myers:

To call him a 3/4 d-man is laughable (not just calling you out, Irish, so don't feel singled out in any way). He's NOT a surefire #1 in the way Weber and the like are, but on the vast majority of teams he'd likely be their #2 at worst, unless it's some situation like Myers has been in during the past where a team may pair someone else with their #1 for chemistry/complementary skills.

Despite Myers being a "#3/4 d-man", in a horrible game like last night he was -1, playing vs the more skilled players, most minutes, yet the real #3/4 d-men were a combined -5. It doesn't mean that Zadorov/Risto can't leapfrog over Myers in ability, but he's the best the team has - and I think that's dictated by the pretty well respected coach.
- stashu

Noted

Understandable.

You are right in that it seems like there's another level to his game that he's afraid to reach. I wish he would stop that dumb drop-pass in the neutral zone on the PP. And I wish he would stop hesitating to shoot the puck.

I do think he's a very good defenseman and I like him a lot. 6'8 right-handed defenseman who can skate 26 minues don't grow on trees, but if a guy like Hall is available, I wouldn't be opposed to trading him.
- CaptainRivet

Like I said yesterday "He goes from Housely to Delmore when entering the zone".

Noted
- Irish 14

It's like a #1 line - Buffalo doesn't have anyone worthy to be on a top tier #1 line, so to call anyone on the team a first line talent is a bit crazy. Same goes for a #1 d-man moniker.

*shrug*

Capt Riv - solid response. You are correct about a 6'8 defensemen growing on trees - if he is on Detroit/St. Louis he is a solid 3/4 player for them. But here he cannot be a #1 defensemen (not working).
- Irish 14

He'd be a number 2 in Detroit along side Kronwall.

A 4 in St Louis behind Pietrangelo, Jay Bo, and Shattenkirk.

Pretty sure no one compares him to Lindstrom or Weber when they invoke their names, it's more to point out that you don't need to be a "complete player" and drop the gloves every few games to be a good defenseman.

My take on Myers:

To call him a 3/4 d-man is laughable (not just calling you out, Irish, so don't feel singled out in any way). He's NOT a surefire #1 in the way Weber and the like are, but on the vast majority of teams he'd likely be their #2 at worst, unless it's some situation like Myers has been in during the past where a team may pair someone else with their #1 for chemistry/complementary skills.

Despite Myers being a "#3/4 d-man", in a horrible game like last night he was -1, playing vs the more skilled players, most minutes, yet the real #3/4 d-men were a combined -5. It doesn't mean that Zadorov/Risto can't leapfrog over Myers in ability, but he's the best the team has - and I think that's dictated by the pretty well respected coach.
- stashu

IMO right now Myers is our Dion Phanuef. Granted I think he is already better than Phanuef but the way they are treated is similar.

He is blamed for bad plays, but people fail to acknowledge the multiple plays he makes throughout the game. If you handle the puck a lot, you turn it over a lot. It's that simple.

There is no doubt in my mind if he were on a team like Anaheim or Detroit he would be viewed in a completely different light around the league

Monday 12/22 & Tuesday 12/23? Weather
- Irish 14

Heavy rain

IMO right now Myers is our Dion Phanuef. Granted I think he is already better than Phanuef but the way they are treated is similar.

He is blamed for bad plays, but people fail to acknowledge the multiple plays he makes throughout the game. If you handle the puck a lot, you turn it over a lot. It's that simple.

There is no doubt in my mind if he were on a team like Anaheim or Detroit he would be viewed in a completely different light around the league
- sbroads24

that seems to happen a lot...and it's not only sabres fans

He'd be a number 2 in Detroit along side Kronwall.

A 4 in St Louis behind Pietrangelo, Jay Bo, and Shattenkirk.
- dadeadhead

And if Myers played for Hitchcock he could be better than the above mentioned.

Peitrangelo isn't immune to his share of boneheaded plays.

that seems to happen a lot...and it's not only sabres fans
- Michael Pachla

Agreed.

Agreed.
- sbroads24

I really have no problem with his game or his flaws...the fact that Detroit seems to be hot on his trail might be an indication that he's a pretty decent player

Heavy rain
- homiedclown

Your killing me Homie!

St Louis behind Pietrangelo, Jay Bo, and Shattenkirk & Det - Kronwall

And if Myers played for Hitchcock he could be better than the above mentioned.
Peitrangelo isn't immune to his share of boneheaded plays.
- sbroads24

See above statement - you cant be serious?

St Louis behind Pietrangelo, Jay Bo, and Shattenkirk & Det - Kronwall





See above statement - you cant be serious?
- Irish 14

He can, and it may be true. Advanced stats show Myers ahead of any Blues D-man. Myers gets an unfair wrap because Idiots like Schoop and Bulldog say Myers plays more minutes against lesser competition and people believe it. When it is actually false.

He can, and it may be true. Advanced stats show Myers ahead of any Blues D-man. Myers gets an unfair wrap because Idiots like Schoop and Bulldog say Myers plays more minutes against lesser competition and people believe it. When it is actually false.
- ImThatGuy

Bulldog said that yesterday. It's hilarious how backwards they have it

And if Myers played for Hitchcock he could be better than the above mentioned.

Peitrangelo isn't immune to his share of boneheaded plays.
- sbroads24

I have no problem with Myers except by hearing/reading the beliefs of some thinking of him as the second coming of Christ and not seeing him as to what he is. A good defenseman who has flaws like many do.

St Louis behind Pietrangelo, Jay Bo, and Shattenkirk & Det - Kronwall





See above statement - you cant be serious?
- Irish 14

Shattenkirk was viewed as a one dimensional small defensemen in Colorado
Boumeester was viewed as an over hyped over paid defensemen (sound similar?) in Calgary.

Hitchcock is a great defensive mind. He'd be someone to squeeze the most out of 57