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znagle
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: OH
Joined: 10.02.2014

Dec 18 @ 10:23 AM ET
Yes because they're at all the same type of player. Perron led our team in goals last year and had 68 points.
- Ihatebrianburke


Perron had 57 points last year (career high) and only has hit 50 points twice in his career and is currently on pace for 40 points.... He has never hit 60
Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

Dec 18 @ 10:25 AM ET
Don't think we'd be interested then. It will be interesting to watch what you guys decide to do. Good luck
- dbell646

It will be interesting. I think we're in for a lot more sucking around here. Heck Eakins in his day after firing speech was still preaching patience with our young players and not to make any knee jerk reactions. Fans are fed up and don't wanna hear that though
dbell646
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.13.2009

Dec 18 @ 10:26 AM ET
It will be interesting. I think we're in for a lot more sucking around here. Heck Eakins in his day after firing speech was still preaching patience with our young players and not to make any knee jerk reactions. Fans are fed up and don't wanna hear that though
- Ihatebrianburke

Well keep playing the way you are now and one hole will be filled with one of the top 2 picks. I hope they get it figured out. I'll say this they have some loyal fans
Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

Dec 18 @ 10:27 AM ET
Typo. 57 was what I meant. Fat fingers and an iPhone sometimes make for crappy typing.
nbartley9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 01.31.2012

Dec 18 @ 10:28 AM ET
It will be interesting. I think we're in for a lot more sucking around here. Heck Eakins in his day after firing speech was still preaching patience with our young players and not to make any knee jerk reactions. Fans are fed up and don't wanna hear that though
- Ihatebrianburke


Hang in there it could always be worse......


ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

Dec 18 @ 10:30 AM ET
Hang in there it could always be worse......



- nbartley9




We won't be sniffing the playoffs for another 3-5 years.
Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

Dec 18 @ 10:30 AM ET
Well keep playing the way you are now and one hole will be filled with one of the top 2 picks. I hope they get it figured out. I'll say this they have some loyal fans
- dbell646

I honestly don't think we'll be top 2 at the end of the year. And if we did I'd still rather trade the pick for a stud on the back end
ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

Dec 18 @ 10:32 AM ET
I honestly don't think we'll be top 2 at the end of the year. And if we did I'd still rather trade the pick for a stud on the back end
- Ihatebrianburke


We may not be. But teams won't trade us a player unless they know what that pick is. And if it ends up being 1 or 2, we will want a ransom for it and I don't think teams will pay it.

If we end up with McEichel, we build around them. I'd start moving Eberle, Schultz to start. Test the market on Hall maybe but he has to bring in an excellent dman or centre.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Dec 18 @ 10:35 AM ET
Sutter doesn't come off the books until after next season.
- ScienceJesus


No I meant because Sutter was included in the deal for ROR.

It was ROR ($1M retained) and Talbot for Sutter and Harrington
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Dec 18 @ 10:36 AM ET
Goligoski wasn't that good first few years with the stars. Last year was a pretty good year offensively, but his defense isn't top pair defenseman worthy. He looked really good in PIT, I was pretty much saying Despres wouldn't look too good in EDM until they figure it out (like dallas did) and his stock would be at it's highest with the pens and all the hype now rather than with EDM next year. We can all agree they aren't going anywhere for a while...
- znagle


I disagree, his first full year in Dallas he put up some decent n umbers, 9 goals, 21 assists in 71 games, only 16 PIM, 93 blocked shots and has been averaged around 22 minutes a game since he's been there... I think Dallas as a team wasn't very good in Gogo's first few years there, but to say he wasn't good, I believe is incorrect. I had asked some Dallas fans at the beginning of the season what their opinion on Goligoski was after the trade and they seemed extremely pleased with it.
Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

Dec 18 @ 10:36 AM ET
We may not be. But teams won't trade us a player unless they know what that pick is. And if it ends up being 1 or 2, we will want a ransom for it and I don't think teams will pay it.

If we end up with McEichel, we build around them. I'd start moving Eberle, Schultz to start. Test the market on Hall maybe but he has to bring in an excellent dman or centre.

- ystoil

Yep Eberle and Shultz can suck my balls!!!
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Dec 18 @ 10:41 AM ET
I like that. You just got yourself a Sutter and a harrington. Pick them up at the airport
- dbell646


Sweet, more people jumping on my bandwagon.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Dec 18 @ 10:44 AM ET
Would post the lines from this morning skate but every single time the game time lines have been way different, so no point.

But FWIW, 71-87-72 are the top line.
znagle
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: OH
Joined: 10.02.2014

Dec 18 @ 10:46 AM ET
We may not be. But teams won't trade us a player unless they know what that pick is. And if it ends up being 1 or 2, we will want a ransom for it and I don't think teams will pay it.

If we end up with McEichel, we build around them. I'd start moving Eberle, Schultz to start. Test the market on Hall maybe but he has to bring in an excellent dman or centre.

- ystoil


Maatta for eichel?
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Dec 18 @ 10:46 AM ET
Sweet, more people jumping on my bandwagon.
- YouMeAndDupuis9


It will be sad to see his smoke show of a GF move along with him, the Better Halves Charity funtions wont be the same
kgrpitt
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 09.08.2010

Dec 18 @ 10:46 AM ET
Gesh pretty soon we will be bringing Vokoun out of retirement. Zatkoff better stay away from Consol.
Just saw Fleury doesn't have them. Phew
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Dec 18 @ 10:51 AM ET
Gesh pretty soon we will be bringing Vokoun out of retirement. Zatkoff better stay away from Consol.
Just saw Fleury doesn't have them. Phew

- kgrpitt



I feel bad Vokoun retired the day he did... what was it, 2 days later Ben Bishop gets hurt? Pretty sure Vokoun was #2 on the veteran goaltenders to sign if you starter got hurt after Brodeur.
kgrpitt
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 09.08.2010

Dec 18 @ 10:52 AM ET
I feel bad Vokoun retired the day he did... what was it, 2 days later Ben Bishop gets hurt? Pretty sure Vokoun was #2 on the veteran goaltenders to sign if you starter got hurt after Brodeur.
- Guile


Did he play in any games after he was healthy to play again? I don't think he did. Surprised no team gave him a tryout.
znagle
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: OH
Joined: 10.02.2014

Dec 18 @ 10:55 AM ET
Did he play in any games after he was healthy to play again? I don't think he did. Surprised no team gave him a tryout.
- kgrpitt


Vokoun played 2 AHL games at the end of the season last year, nothing more after that
coohill
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Louisville, CO
Joined: 03.15.2007

Dec 18 @ 11:00 AM ET
Living in Colorado, I definitely think the Avs are sellers, but it's much more likely they'll try to unload Briere around the playoffs (someone will be bamboozled by the "clutch" player sale). I agree that Tangauy will be gone too. Slightly harder because of the additional year on his contract, but in watching him this year, he's worth the price.

Iginla would be next, but his contract would be very hard to swallow for most playoff teams.

The Avs seem to have fallen for the "we need veterans with strong locker room presence" delusion. Maybe Brad Stuart was a stretch but at least he was defense where they need it most.

I believe that name Varlomov is Russian for anchor. Maybe we'll get another summer of buy-outs magically added to the existing CBA this summer. That'd be a great Christmas present for some.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Dec 18 @ 11:05 AM ET
Living in Colorado, I definitely think the Avs are sellers, but it's much more likely they'll try to unload Briere around the playoffs (someone will be bamboozled by the "clutch" player sale). I agree that Tangauy will be gone too. Slightly harder because of the additional year on his contract, but in watching him this year, he's worth the price.

Iginla would be next, but his contract would be very hard to swallow for most playoff teams.

The Avs seem to have fallen for the "we need veterans with strong locker room presence" delusion. Maybe Brad Stuart was a stretch but at least he was defense where they need it most.

I believe that name Varlomov is Russian for anchor. Maybe we'll get another summer of buy-outs magically added to the existing CBA this summer. That'd be a great Christmas present for some.

- coohill


There is nothing wrong with Varly, the made a mistake signing Berra to back up bc Pickard has been really stellar since his call up. But Varly has had a rough go hurting his groin during offseason training and has had the chance to play a meaningful string of games before he has to go back on the IR.

Briere will go somewhere for a 4th/5th round pick. Tangs wont be going anywhere, but Iggy probably will by next seasons deadline if the team doesnt show any signs of improvement next season.

I wouldnt say Sellers but they will be active at the deadline trying to open up roster spots for next season. So you might see guys like McLeod, Talbot, Holden being shipped out for Pennies on the dollar or potetnially bought out
drummer829
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.12.2010

Dec 18 @ 11:07 AM ET
If ROR had another 5 years left at 6 mil per year, I would be very intrigued. That versatility would be great, especially if sid or geno went down with an injury. His defensive game would probably make malkin much better, and you have the option of throwing ROR at center of malkin is struggling on draws that night. I believe he is a good PKer too. The problem with him is what Ryan said about is contract ending in a year and a half. Honestly, a deal involving sutter wouldn't be too bad considering sutter is probably gone shortly as well.

Sutter, pouliot, 1st would be the most I'd be willing to give up, even then I cringe a little bit.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Dec 18 @ 11:08 AM ET
There is nothing wrong with Varly, the made a mistake signing Berra to back up bc Pickard has been really stellar since his call up. But Varly has had a rough go hurting his groin during offseason training and has had the chance to play a meaningful string of games before he has to go back on the IR.

Briere will go somewhere for a 4th/5th round pick. Tangs wont be going anywhere, but Iggy probably will by next seasons deadline if the team doesnt show any signs of improvement next season.

I wouldnt say Sellers but they will be active at the deadline trying to open up roster spots for next season. So you might see guys like McLeod, Talbot, Holden being shipped out for Pennies on the dollar or potetnially bought out

- DDM-Coga


I would gladly give you a 4th or 5th round pick for Danny Briere.
znagle
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: OH
Joined: 10.02.2014

Dec 18 @ 11:09 AM ET
If ROR had another 5 years left at 6 mil per year, I would be very intrigued. That versatility would be great, especially if sid or geno went down with an injury. His defensive game would probably make malkin much better, and you have the option of throwing ROR at center of malkin is struggling on draws that night. I believe he is a good PKer too. The problem with him is what Ryan said about is contract ending in a year and a half. Honestly, a deal involving sutter wouldn't be too bad considering sutter is probably gone shortly as well.

Sutter, pouliot, 1st would be the most I'd be willing to give up, even then I cringe a little bit.

- drummer829


YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Dec 18 @ 11:10 AM ET
It will be sad to see his smoke show of a GF move along with him, the Better Halves Charity funtions wont be the same
- DDM-Coga


Add ROR's wife to Letang's and Comeau's hot blonde wives.

Forget the players, keep trading for hot wives...
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