I'm just saying he lacks the ability to do it. Look around the league and you'll see how much pure skill this Flyers team lacks.
- GOA88

I agree that there seems to be a lack of skill to a certain extent but I don't think Read is the problem. He is a third line RW (behind Voracek and Simmonds) and a very good one at that.

(frank)in fool


- Giroux_Is_God

Hahaha I remember that! good times...

Well, with that attitude I'm taking back the xmas gift I got you. And my snortable Advil.
- wolfhounds

I take it back, you're swell

c'mon gimmegimmegimme

I agree that there seems to be a lack of skill to a certain extent but I don't think Read is the problem. He is a third line RW (behind Voracek and Simmonds) and a very good one at that.
- NickTheKid87

Thats what I would normally agree on. Anything more than that... your team lacks depth.

Again Clown!

Thats what I would normally agree on. Anything more than that... your team lacks depth.
- GOA88

He can be a top 6 forward too but ideally he'd be on the third line. He'd probably be in the top 6 on Anaheim, Pittsburgh, Nashville, Detroit, Toronto and that's just teams in the top 10 in points this year. He's really a versatile player.

He can be a top 6 forward too but ideally he'd be on the third line. He'd probably be in the top 6 on Anaheim, Pittsburgh, Nashville, Detroit, Toronto and that's just teams in the top 10 in points this year. He's really a versatile player.
- NickTheKid87

who matt read? he's definitely a bottom six forward on a cup contending team

(frank)in fool


- Giroux_Is_God

I might be a bad person for it, but I find this amazingly funny.

Funniness level just increased because I just realized:
1) Carcillo
2) Versteeg, as predicted, with that mouthpiece dangling out the corner of his mouth.

I might be a bad person for it, but I find this amazingly funny.
- jmatchett383

That's not why you're a bad person...

I take it back, you're swell

c'mon gimmegimmegimme
- BulliesPhan87

It's in the mail!

That's not why you're a bad person...


- wolfhounds

I don't know what that's in reference to, but it makes me creeped out.

It's in the mail!
- wolfhounds

is there a tracking number for that I'm very impatient

I don't know what that's in reference to, but it makes me creeped out.
- jmatchett383

Yeah, not one of my better combos. I'll work to get better.

who matt read? he's definitely a bottom six forward on a cup contending team
- 2Real

Depends on the team. Like I said, he's top six on Anaheim and Pittsburgh. Anaheim's top 6 includes Getzlaf, Kesler, Belesky, Perry, Silfverberg and Maroon. Penguins have Crosby, Malkin, Kunitz, Hornqvist, Dupuis (before injury) and Comeau. Read's better than Comeau, Maroon and Belesky, IMO. Silfverberg too although maybe not skill wise.

is there a tracking number for that I'm very impatient
- BulliesPhan87

I mailed it with the package for efficiency. Always thinking I am.

I mailed it with the package for efficiency. Always thinking I am.
- wolfhounds

Calm down, Yoda.

Depends on the team. Like I said, he's top six on Anaheim and Pittsburgh. Anaheim's top 6 includes Getzlaf, Kesler, Belesky, Perry, Silfverberg and Maroon. Penguins have Crosby, Malkin, Kunitz, Hornqvist, Dupuis (before injury) and Comeau. Read's better than Comeau, Maroon and Belesky, IMO. Silfverberg too although maybe not skill wise.
- NickTheKid87

I see your logic. Thats just the reality of a salary cap world. In the non-cap world. Read never sees the 2nd line unless theres an injury.

Awesome write up.

Awesome write up.
- Panthers88

thx

I see your logic. Thats just the reality of a salary cap world. In the non-cap world. Read never sees the 2nd line unless theres an injury.
- GOA88

In a non cap world he's a second line fixture on 27 teams with the top three teams completely stacked.

Flyers would be one of those stacked teams.

Calm down, Yoda.
- jmatchett383

Depends on the team. Like I said, he's top six on Anaheim and Pittsburgh. Anaheim's top 6 includes Getzlaf, Kesler, Belesky, Perry, Silfverberg and Maroon. Penguins have Crosby, Malkin, Kunitz, Hornqvist, Dupuis (before injury) and Comeau. Read's better than Comeau, Maroon and Belesky, IMO. Silfverberg too although maybe not skill wise.
- NickTheKid87

How many third line RWs have been multiple time 20 goal scorers?

Last season, with ridiculous usage, Read scored 22 goals. Jake Voracek had 23. So did Matt Duchene, Jason Spezza, Bryan Little, Matt Moulson, Shane Doan & Bobby Ryan.

Guys who had fewer goals than Read include Eric Staal, TJ Oshie, Brad Boyes, Scott Hartnell, Radim Vrbata, Justin Williams, Brendan Gallagher & Nick Foligno.

To me, it's ridiculous to say Read lacks skill. In terms of how he's used, he scores at a more than acceptable rate.

In a non cap world he's a second line fixture on 27 teams with the top three teams completely stacked.

Flyers would be one of those stacked teams.
- mayorofangrytown

Top 6 on the panthers, lightning, Jackets of the NHL. Thats doesnt mean he is top 6 material. lol

How many third line RWs have been multiple time 20 goal scorers?

Last season, with ridiculous usage, Read scored 22 goals. Jake Voracek had 23. So did Matt Duchene, Jason Spezza, Bryan Little, Matt Moulson, Shane Doan & Bobby Ryan.

Guys who had fewer goals than Read include Eric Staal, TJ Oshie, Brad Boyes, Scott Hartnell, Radim Vrbata, Justin Williams, Brendan Gallagher & Nick Foligno.

To me, it's ridiculous to say Read lacks skill. In terms of how he's used, he scores at a more than acceptable rate.
- Jsaquella

Ok, so Read is better than Staal, Oshie, Williams, Hartnell? and comparable to Ryan, Doan, Spezza, Duchene and Voracek. Let me go get my head checked......

I see your logic. Thats just the reality of a salary cap world. In the non-cap world. Read never sees the 2nd line unless theres an injury.
- GOA88

I am on the fence with Read. He does things well and then there is also the fact i want to upgrade the skill on the wings. If he was moved at the deadline to a playoff team for a nice return i wouldn't be bothered with it. if he is here next year I am ok with it to because I think if you moved Couturier to second line center and gave him more skilled wingers Read could play on a third line with Laughton and Leirer to make a nice shut down line with speed ala my old Devils analagy.

But i would still like to upgrade the wings with more skill and even some nasty. I like Beleksy. He can seem to play up and down the lineup