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kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Dec 18 @ 10:06 PM ET
Bro, this team is bad. Getting upset after losses is a wasted emotion
- PhillySportsGuy

why bother?
FlyerGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.18.2007

Dec 18 @ 10:07 PM ET
ive been calling for his job a while now
- JoeRussomanno

I've defended Berube in the past ... but it's damn hard to do so now.

There's something about him that I've grown to dislike. I don't know ... it's like the players don't want to PLAY for him, or something. Very strange, imo.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Dec 18 @ 10:07 PM ET
Just friggen lose. All these 1 point games are getting this squad into no mans land.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Dec 18 @ 10:08 PM ET
I've defended Berube in the past ... but it's damn hard to do so now.

There's something about him that I've grown to dislike. I don't know ... it's like the players don't want to PLAY for him him, or something. Very strange, imo.

- FlyerGuy

theres too much underachieving this year.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Dec 18 @ 10:08 PM ET
I've defended Berube in the past ... but it's damn hard to do so now.

There's something about him that I've grown to dislike. I don't know ... it's like the players don't want to PLAY for him him, or something. Very strange, imo.

- FlyerGuy


I dislike him, but no matter who you hire, can they fix guys not being able to make a 5 foot pass?

I don't want him here next season, but I don't fire him until end of January or so, if not just wait until the season is over.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Dec 18 @ 10:09 PM ET
why bother?

- kicksave856


If I save one, it's worth it
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Dec 18 @ 10:09 PM ET


Pitiful.

Just pitiful.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Dec 18 @ 10:09 PM ET
They need to do that just to have a prayer. They go 3-2-1, they're toast.
- Jsaquella


It is truly dire right now -- I'm looking at the standings right now and I'm just like WTF, because that is just sobering

Eight points back, no games in hand. Six points behind another team that has flat-out owned you in the regular season and they have two games in hand on you

Four teams in front of you and tied with three others

Man, that is some dire poop
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Dec 18 @ 10:10 PM ET
If I save one, it's worth it

- PhillySportsGuy

i love that this dude broke a bunch of bones.

i wish he would have broken the rest of them.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Dec 18 @ 10:10 PM ET
If I save one, it's worth it

- PhillySportsGuy

I'd rather have Bono on this team than Vinny.

That's pretty damn bad.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Dec 18 @ 10:10 PM ET
i love that this dude broke a bunch of bones.

i wish he would have broken the rest of them.

- kicksave856

77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Dec 18 @ 10:11 PM ET
I dislike him, but no matter who you hire, can they fix guys not being able to make a 5 foot pass?

I don't want him here next season, but I don't fire him until end of January or so, if not just wait until the season is over.

- Jsaquella


The worst breakout team I've seen in a long time.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Dec 18 @ 10:11 PM ET
i love that this dude broke a bunch of bones.

i wish he would have broken the rest of them.

- kicksave856


He will live forever. He'll be one of those 95 year old guys still touring
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Dec 18 @ 10:12 PM ET
It is truly dire right now -- I'm looking at the standings right now and I'm just like WTF, because that is just sobering

Eight points back, no games in hand. Six points behind another team that has flat-out owned you in the regular season and they have two games in hand on you

Four teams in front of you and tied with three others

Man, that is some dire poop

- AllInForFlyers



That 20% chance at the #1 pick and no lower than 2nd is a nice thought isn't it?
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Dec 18 @ 10:13 PM ET
He will live forever. He'll be one of those 95 year old guys still touring
- PhillySportsGuy

pretty sure kim jong un is plotting his demise right now.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Dec 18 @ 10:13 PM ET
It is truly dire right now -- I'm looking at the standings right now and I'm just like WTF, because that is just sobering

Eight points back, no games in hand. Six points behind another team that has flat-out owned you in the regular season and they have two games in hand on you

Four teams in front of you and tied with three others

Man, that is some dire poop

- AllInForFlyers


Yeah, it's getting close to the point where it's not how many points out they are, but rather how many teams they have to jump.
FlyerGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.18.2007

Dec 18 @ 10:13 PM ET
I dislike him, but no matter who you hire, can they fix guys not being able to make a 5 foot pass?

I don't want him here next season, but I don't fire him until end of January or so, if not just wait until the season is over.

- Jsaquella

I doubt he's getting fired ... I think the season is his.

I can't pin it down, though ... there's just something about the Chief and his interaction with the team that bugs me.
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Dec 18 @ 10:13 PM ET
Berube needs to go now
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Dec 18 @ 10:14 PM ET
I doubt he's getting fired ... I think the season is his.

I can't pin it down, though ... there's just something about the Chief and his interaction with the team that bugs me.

- FlyerGuy

he's clueless... thats what it is
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Dec 18 @ 10:15 PM ET
pretty sure kim jong un is plotting his demise right now.
- kicksave856


His funeral would be made up of thousands who were proud of him but glad he's gone
FlyerGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.18.2007

Dec 18 @ 10:15 PM ET
Berube needs to go now
- Winning

is the plane for TO leaving already?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Dec 18 @ 10:15 PM ET
I doubt he's getting fired ... I think the season is his.

I can't pin it down, though ... there's just something about the Chief and his interaction with the team that bugs me.

- FlyerGuy


There's a lot that bugs me. Questionable line decisions, uneven accountability, usage questions, strategic adjustments in game....I'm not a fan. I agree he probably stays coach the entire season, unless the train goes completely off the rails
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Dec 18 @ 10:15 PM ET
Berube needs to go now
- Winning


Team will fly him to Winnipeg then fire him there
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Dec 18 @ 10:15 PM ET
Berube needs to go now
- Winning

I disagree. He's the only one that can sink this ship.

Vinny first up in the shootout. Classic.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Dec 18 @ 10:16 PM ET
Here is my take on the shootout and feel free to line up and call me stupid.

Most fans who do not like the shootout are either old school, in a losing market when it comes to the shootout and then some do not believe it's a team sport. These I suppose are reasonable arguments. Some may even believe they've been robbed if they lost in a shootout. I'm not sure I feel less robbed if I went to a game live that ended in a 1-1 tie, which I have. It was an empty feeling, even knowing that the league has ended in in ties since forever. For me though, the game always has to end with the puck beating the goalie and landing in the net.

This idea that Ken Holland has been pushing for years of 3 on 3 to me is how this fan base approaches trading for a guy like Evander Kane for Brayden Schenn. Just this very idea of the grass being greener on the other side. As some know I live in Detroit and they are just now complaining non-stop about the shootout on the radio but it has everything to do with the fact they haven't won one in a while. They're whining like losers because they're losing. Two weeks ago it wasn't even thought of as a topic until there most recent skid and the way they've been losing.

I look back at the most thrilling 3 on 3 during the 2012-13 season where the Flyers faced a team I can't even remember but I do remember Carle basically juggling Jagr and Briere in the offensive zone. It was fun to watch but it to me really depends on the players you put out there. I really only believe Giroux, Voracek and one of Streit and MacDonald can be successful in 3 on 3. The other guys might not be skilled enough or fast enough for all the open space.

Nicolas Grossmann, Luke Schenn, maybe even Simmonds and guys lower on the depth chart aren't going to see ice time anymore then they would in a 4 on 4 OT or a shooutout. Plus the shootout conserves time and angry for the players. The league has already stopped Zamboni-ing the ice (For a lack of a better word) so fans can get home, while trying to beat traffic because of complains of staying late. 4 on 4 and then 3 on 3 just keeps them later.

I'm open to change but I think they'll always be another debate just waiting once the change is made.
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