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PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Dec 19 @ 11:04 AM ET
He's one of the few key guys without a contract clause, so he'd be a prime target at next year's trade deadline if it came down to it. Might just get a better return at that point, too.

Of course, if Hexy can sell him on his long-term plan, we might be surprised at what he'd be willing to sign for. You never know.

- tangent_man


Ideally, I'd like to keep him. I Just don't think he should be kept AT ANY COST!!!
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Dec 19 @ 11:04 AM ET
I think this rebuild lasts as long as it takes 3 or 4 of the D prospects to develop
- nails


For the most part, I do too, but getting a player of McDavid's caliber would open up a lot of doors for the Flyers to rework the roster.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 19 @ 11:04 AM ET
Yeah. I pray to God Hexy had no say in the Amac deal
- PhillySportsGuy



I'm guessing that was Homer's deal all the way. Let's face it. If the Flyers win game 7 last spring, Homer might still be calling the shots today. I'm sure he talked to his staff, but it was his call.
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Dec 19 @ 11:05 AM ET
Ideally, I'd like to keep him. I Just don't think he should be kept AT ANY COST!!!
- PhillySportsGuy


Agreed. I'm just putting off Christmas shopping.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Dec 19 @ 11:05 AM ET
Their defense is a mess much like the Flyers. Them and Dallas are a great example that in the modern NHL defensemen are way more important than forward talent.
- psuhockey


Even more depressing is that they actually have good NHL players on D -- EJ, Barrie -- to build around. We have... the shadow of Coburn's nose.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Dec 19 @ 11:05 AM ET
Even worse with Coby.... Numbers dont lie.
- GOA88


The Flyers were 5-7-3 last season when Rinaldo was hurt but went 37-23-7 when he played , so by your logic that means Rinaldo is vital to our success.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Dec 19 @ 11:07 AM ET
Meszaros was under 30 and had upside still. Schultz is playing above his level of the past few seasons. Like I said, I think it's possible he could net them a third but there will be cheaper options out there and some teams may rather have Schenn or Grossmann for a 4th or 5th then Schultz for a 3rd.
- NickTheKid87


I just think teams are so desperate for D. Mez was awful last year and was a pending FA making a lot. Schultz has played well, is a veteran and a pending FA making very little.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Dec 19 @ 11:07 AM ET
Wonder if his jersey tasted like chicken? Actually Gudbrandson was just relieved that he didn't bite him in the ass.
- BiggE


Hands where I can see em, Claude. Hands where I can see em...
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Dec 19 @ 11:07 AM ET
Was that him testing the waters of a possible date with Gudbranson? Or was he like 'Hey, want to see what my dog did last night?'
- wolfhounds

Retaliation for the Raffl hit.

Clode loves Raffl

"F U Raf"
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Dec 19 @ 11:08 AM ET
For the most part, I do too, but getting a player of McDavid's caliber would open up a lot of doors for the Flyers to rework the roster.
- NickTheKid87

it would.
The forwards would be pretty solid then and scoring should balance better.
Unfortunately, that might take 3 years.

Would you trade a lottery pick this year for a number 1 d man?
A true #1?
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Dec 19 @ 11:08 AM ET
The Flyers were 5-7-3 last season when Rinaldo was hurt but went 37-23-7 when he played , so by your logic that means Rinaldo is vital to our success.
- Feanor



BOOM!
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Dec 19 @ 11:09 AM ET


I'm guessing that was Homer's deal all the way. Let's face it. If the Flyers win game 7 last spring, Homer might still be calling the shots today. I'm sure he talked to his staff, but it was his call.

- BiggE


Probably. We can get into how misleading that 7 game series was at another time.

I just don't want this team to be afraid to walk away from a deal even if they love the player
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Dec 19 @ 11:09 AM ET
I just think teams are so desperate for D. Mez was awful last year and was a pending FA making a lot. Schultz has played well, is a veteran and a pending FA making very little.
- PhillySportsGuy


Like I said, I think it's possible, just not probable. We'll see what happens though. I would move him for any pick though.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Dec 19 @ 11:09 AM ET
The Flyers were 5-7-3 last season when Rinaldo was hurt but went 37-23-7 when he played , so by your logic that means Rinaldo is vital to our success.
- Feanor

you know what an energy player is right
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Dec 19 @ 11:09 AM ET
Agreed. I'm just putting off Christmas shopping.
- tangent_man


So glad to be done that poop. I hate shopping more than anything
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Dec 19 @ 11:09 AM ET
Definitely playing like poop.

On a positive note, AMac actually looked dangerous in OT last night. When's the last time that happened?

- Tomahawk


It's almost like playing him with Streit is a good idea.
GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Dec 19 @ 11:10 AM ET
The Flyers were 5-7-3 last season when Rinaldo was hurt but went 37-23-7 when he played , so by your logic that means Rinaldo is vital to our success.
- Feanor

No, because Rinaldo has a very limited role and little impact on the result of a game. Usually its a negative impact.

Stop blindly defending Coburn based on his name. He has played like poop and his time in Philly should come to an end along with many others. This team as a whole lacks heart, physicality, work ethic and continually make game changing mistakes.
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Dec 19 @ 11:10 AM ET
it would.
The forwards would be pretty solid then and scoring should balance better.
Unfortunately, that might take 3 years.

Would you trade a lottery pick this year for a number 1 d man?
A true #1?

- nails


Define "true #1". Are we talking Doughty, Weber, Pietrangelo? Because I would trade any 1st round pick except 1st overall (i.e. McDavid) for them.
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Dec 19 @ 11:11 AM ET
So glad to be done that poop. I hate shopping more than anything
- PhillySportsGuy


I'm trying to finish up today. I really don't want to be fighting the crowds over the weekend.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Dec 19 @ 11:11 AM ET
Their defense is a mess much like the Flyers. Them and Dallas are a great example that in the modern NHL defensemen are way more important than forward talent.
- psuhockey



Yeah but they have pretty much the same team as last year that played like gang busters. Varlamov being hurt hasn't helped. I still expect them to eventually play better.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Dec 19 @ 11:13 AM ET
No, because Rinaldo has a very limited role and little impact on the result of a game. Usually its a negative impact.

Stop blindly defending Coburn based on his name. He has played like poop and his time in Philly should come to an end along with many others. This team as a whole lacks heart, physicality, work ethic and continually make game changing mistakes.

- GOA88


I'm not blindly defending anyone and have no problem trading Coburn for a 1st. I'm just laughing at the idea that taking him off the team makes it better.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Dec 19 @ 11:13 AM ET
I'm trying to finish up today. I really don't want to be fighting the crowds over the weekend.
- tangent_man


You should convert. We Jews get Hannukah done before Christmas almost every year. Makes life a lot easier
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 19 @ 11:13 AM ET
You should convert. We Jews get Hannukah done before Christmas almost every year. Makes life a lot easier
- PhillySportsGuy


Just means you need to start shopping earlier, heathen!
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Dec 19 @ 11:13 AM ET
No, because Rinaldo has a very limited role and little impact on the result of a game. Usually its a negative impact.

Stop blindly defending Coburn based on his name. He has played like poop and his time in Philly should come to an end along with many others. This team as a whole lacks heart, physicality, work ethic and continually make game changing mistakes.

- GOA88


This team is bad. 5 players look good. The rest are struggling and causing a chain reaction of suckage.
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Dec 19 @ 11:14 AM ET
Define "true #1". Are we talking Doughty, Weber, Pietrangelo? Because I would trade any 1st round pick except 1st overall (i.e. McDavid) for them.
- NickTheKid87


Any D man in the league.

Pre lottery balls, so you don't get to know what the pick is.
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