You know there's other sites for this sort of thing.
- Cptmjl

Always has been a "stick to the plan" type. Rarely does adjustments get done in game. Hell, he doesn't allow players to play unless they've had substantial enough team meetings!
- brodydog29

It's great to have a plan but you have to able to adjust said plan. I'm actually less worried about their in game plan or said reluctance to change it impromptu than I am about special teams. I hate to be the bearer of bad news but this team is going to start dropping like a stone soon if their PK and PP isn't fixed.

We have teams creeping up behind us now and if anyone thinks we are OK status quo I'll remind you of here and now when we are fighting for a wild card spot in April. They need to do whatever it takes to get their PK at the very least functional along with their PP. For facks sake put Boychuck on the first PP unit and get some bodies to the net. Having Nielsen and Vis on the point to try and cycle down low is NOT working. What the fack does he have to see to realize this? The guy had like 7 PP points in 5 games in the beginning of the season than was inexplicably taken off of it for ten games then put on the 2nd PP unit. What is the thought process here?

Also, anyone notice Nielsen and how ineffective he's been since the Chicago game? He was the only bad player on the ice that game and he's been noticeably off to me and this is coming from a fan.

It's great to have a plan but you have to able to adjust said plan. I'm actually less worried about their in game plan or said reluctance to change it impromptu than I am about special teams. I hate to be the bearer of bad news but this team is going to start dropping like a stone soon if their PK and PP isn't fixed.

We have teams creeping up behind us now and if anyone thinks we are OK status quo I'll remind you of here and now when we are fighting for a wild card spot in April. They need to do whatever it takes to get their PK at the very least functional along with their PP. For facks sake put Boychuck on the first PP unit and get some bodies to the net. Having Nielsen and Vis on the point to try and cycle down low is NOT working. What the fack does he have to see to realize this? The guy had like 7 PP points in 5 games in the beginning of the season than was inexplicably taken off of it for ten games then put on the 2nd PP unit. What is the thought process here?

Also, anyone notice Nielsen and how ineffective he's been since the Chicago game? He was the only bad player on the ice that game and he's been noticeably off to me and this is coming from a fan.
- Cptmjl

So he can play more ES and PK minutes. That's seriously the reason. Cappy is willing to have a worse PP in order to use Boychuk more in situations that require good defense.

So he can play more ES and PK minutes. That's seriously the reason. Cappy is willing to have a worse PP in order to use Boychuk more in situations that require good defense.
- rangerdanger94

I have a hard time believing the guy who gave amac 26 minutes a night wants to keep Boychuck on an even keel. DeHaan gets 16 minutes some games. In other words if that were truly the reason there are other ways around it. Distribute the ice time differently to accommodate the two minutes more Boychuck will be playing(which are considered "easy minutes" by players btw). It's a reasonable theory(speculation) but it's not a logical one IMO. If you have an opportunity to score on the PP you do it.


Special teams wins games and playoff series. This isn't rocket science. There are so many different options to work around what you are stating and everyone of them is viable. You put your best possible chance to score on your PP. He's not doing that.

I have a hard time believing the guy who gave amac 26 minutes a night wants to keep Boychuck on an even keel. DeHaan gets 16 minutes some games. In other words if that were truly the reason there are other ways around it. It's a reasonable theory(speculation) but it's not a logical one IMO. If you have an opportunity to score on the PP you do it. Special teams wins games and playoff series. This isn't rocket science. You put your best possible chance to score on your PP. He's not doing that.
- Cptmjl

He didnt have many other options outside amac to give those minutes. You have guys that are offensive minded in vis and leddy and de haan to run your PP. Giving boychuk those 2 or 3 extra PP minutes a game means he needs to reduce his ice time elsewhere. Or he doesnt reduce it and those extra minutes add up game over game over the course of a year. Would you rather have an inept PP (which with the talent you have, should be scoring regardless of whether boychuk is out there or not) so boychuk could be on the ice protecting a 1 goal lead in the final minute of a game or do you want strait out there during that final minute?

Maybe he wants to keep boychuks point total down so he has less leverage in contract negotiations?

He didnt have many other options outside amac to give those minutes. You have guys that are offensive minded in vis and leddy and de haan to run your PP. Giving boychuk those 2 or 3 extra PP minutes a game means he needs to reduce his ice time elsewhere. Or he doesnt reduce it and those extra minutes add up game over game over the course of a year. Would you rather have an inept PP (which with the talent you have, should be scoring regardless of whether boychuk is out there or not) so boychuk could be on the ice protecting a 1 goal lead in the final minute of a game or do you want strait out there during that final minute?

Maybe he wants to keep boychuks point total down so he has less leverage in contract negotiations?
- rangerdanger94

This was actually something I did think about no BS just beacuse there's no other explanation. . Strait is our seventh defenseman idk why you constantly bring him up when we are discussing ice time in reference to Boychuck? My point with amac was he had 5 defenseman who were actually better yet he gave an obvious inept defenseman heaps more ice time. DeHaan has not proven much on the PP where Boychuck has. Like I said give DeHaan a couple extra minutes even strength or Hickey, or anyone/everyone else.


Two mins on the PP is not going to break Boychucks back he's been averaging 20 minutes for the most part and to spread those 2 extra minutes among four other players it's minimal at best. I can't basically rewrite this post again like i just did to show you it doesn't make sense when you have players that can eat that ice time you're referring too. In other words you're not sacrificing Boychuck in the final two minutes of the game. You're looking at this at an extremely obtuse angle.

This was actually something I did think about no BS just beacuse there's no other explanation. . Strait is our seventh defenseman idk why you constantly bring him up when we are discussing ice time in reference to Boychuck? My point with amac was he had 5 defenseman who were actually better yet he gave an obvious inept defenseman heaps more ice time. DeHaan has not proven much on the PP where Boychuck has. Like I said give DeHaan a couple extra minutes.


Two mins on the PP is not going to break Boychucks back he's been averaging 20 minutes for the most part and to spread those 2 extra minutes among four other players it's minimal at best. I can't basically rewrite this post again like i just did to show you it doesn't make sense when you have players that can eat that ice time you're referring too. In other words you're not sacrificing Boychuck in the final two minutes of the game. You're looking at this at an extremely obtuse angle.
- Cptmjl

This was actually something I did think about no BS just beacuse there's no other explanation. . Strait is our seventh defenseman idk why you constantly bring him up when we are discussing ice time in reference to Boychuck? My point with amac was he had 5 defenseman who were actually better yet he gave an obvious inept defenseman heaps more ice time. DeHaan has not proven much on the PP where Boychuck has. Like I said give DeHaan a couple extra minutes even strength or Hickey, or anyone/everyone else.


Two mins on the PP is not going to break Boychucks back he's been averaging 20 minutes for the most part and to spread those 2 extra minutes among four other players it's minimal at best. I can't basically rewrite this post again like i just did to show you it doesn't make sense when you have players that can eat that ice time you're referring too. In other words you're not sacrificing Boychuck in the final two minutes of the game. You're looking at this at an extremely obtuse angle.
- Cptmjl

All I know is that AV is often asked why he doesnt put klein on the PP and he says its to keep him fresher for ES and PK. So it is a thing coaches do and could be a reason why cappy does it with boychuk.

- Vukota

Finally you chime in and this is what you bring? lol It was a joke hence the but it's something I thought of but quickly dismissed. Come on. We are still talking about the same team that had an injured goaltender on the bench backing the other one up while the team was getting shalacked. The same team that traded a draft pick for Thomas to reach the salary floor and countless other stupid BS. They win some games and you discount the years of stupidity that went on with this management. I wouldn't put anything by the Islanders management winning or not it's the same people at the helm and they are still perfectly capable of doing some incredibly stupid shat IMO.

All I know is that AV is often asked why he doesnt put klein on the PP and he says its to keep him fresher for ES and PK. So it is a thing coaches do and could be a reason why cappy does it with boychuk.
- rangerdanger94

There's ways around that which I've pointed out. Our PP is misfiring, has been for some time now. We score 2 PP goals last night we could have won. Would Boychuck have been the difference on the PP? Who knows but I certainly couldn't say he wouldn't have been.

Finally you chime in and this is what you bring? lol It was a joke hence the but it's something I thought of but quickly dismissed. Come on. We are still talking about the same team that had an injured goaltender on the bench backing the other one up while the team was getting shalacked. The same team that traded a draft pick for Thomas to reach the salary floor and countless other stupid BS. They win some games and you discount the years of stupidity that went on with this management. I wouldn't put anything by the Islanders management winning or not it's the same people at the helm and they are still perfectly capable of doing some incredibly stupid shat IMO.
- Cptmjl

Hey man they're your thoughts you're allowed to think whatever you want

Johnson played a respectable game but proves why Halak is MVP to this team. With him in nets they play an up tempo game which generates more offense. JT, KO and Bailey were effective because they played traditional slower game. Kid line was taken out of game. Team will evolve as they mature physically.

There's ways around that which I've pointed out. Our PP is misfiring, has been for some time now. We score 2 PP goals last night we could have won. Would Boychuck have been the difference on the PP? Who knows but I certainly couldn't say he wouldn't have been.
- Cptmjl

Our PP is in the middle of the pack, converting at about 18% efficiency. The best teams are only converting at about 25% efficiency, so giving Boychuk more PP minutes would at most probably only make a difference of maybe one goal every 4 or 5 games.

On the other hand, as we have discussed ad nauseam, our PK is atrocius and dead last, operating at only about 72% efficiency. That is 18% behind Chicago's 90% efficiency and where the greatest need is for an all-around d-man like Boychuk. He and Hamonic are probably our best d-men on the PK, at least when it comes to clearing the crease.

Our PP is in the middle of the pack, converting at about 18% efficiency. The best teams are only converting at about 25% efficiency, so giving Boychuk more PP minutes would at most probably only make a difference of maybe one goal every 4 or 5 games.

On the other hand, as we have discussed ad nauseam, our PK is atrocius and dead last, operating at only about 72% efficiency. That is 18% behind Chicago's 90% efficiency and where the greatest need is for an all-around d-man like Boychuk. He and Hamonic are probably our best d-men on the PK, at least when it comes to clearing the crease.
- JohnScammo

I dont disagree but our pp has been awful lately as opposed to overall. I think we are one for twelve over the last few games? Our pk is of course a more pressing need the reason I was discussing the pp bcs I think it may be an easier fix. Spread the time out. Its not splitting an atom. Besides youre saying his need is on the 30th ranked pk in the league.

Hey man they're your thoughts you're allowed to think whatever you want
- Vukota

I did say I dismissed it . With that everyone have a great xmas eve and xmas. Finally done with work and have to get ready for ginzo festivities.

Johnson played a respectable game but proves why Halak is MVP to this team. With him in nets they play an up tempo game which generates more offense. JT, KO and Bailey were effective because they played traditional slower game. Kid line was taken out of game. Team will evolve as they mature physically.
- Fan101

In the spirit of Christmas, I will agree with the bold. I think it's fair to say that he played better than in his last few outings. And Price is solid, making a lot of opposing goalies look bad by comparison.

I did say I dismissed it . With that everyone have a great xmas eve and xmas. Finally done with work and have to get ready for ginzo festivities.
- Cptmjl

Merry Xmas to all as well!

In the spirit of Christmas, I will agree with the bold. I think it's fair to say that he played better than in his last few outings. And Price is solid, making a lot of opposing goalies look bad by comparison.
- JohnScammo

Guy wasnt tested in any way shape or form and when he was even in a limited way the puck was in the net. I cant say he had a decent game xmas or not

Guy wasnt tested in any way shape or form and when he was even in a limited way the puck was in the net. I cant say he had a decent game xmas or not
- Cptmjl

Scrooge!

I did say I dismissed it . With that everyone have a great xmas eve and xmas. Finally done with work and have to get ready for ginzo festivities.
- Cptmjl

You too brother!!

Merry Xmas to all as well!
- JohnScammo

Merry Christmas everyone!

Merry Christmas everyone!
- David_Volek

You too and to everyone else...

The PP is less effective because the top line is not complete. No set LW and KO last scored that big goal against CHI. Really need to try swap JT with Strome on the kid line to see if that ups the offense. Maybe also try Stome with KO and Bailey.

This is pretty funny...Santa brawl at the Coliseum...

http://islanders.nhl.com/club/page.htm?id=66778

We are heading off the main page again!
- Cptmjl

Why do people care about this?

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