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PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Dec 23 @ 10:32 AM ET

- 77rams


Haha! Jed!
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 23 @ 10:32 AM ET
When it comes to lack of intensity, I don't think the Flyers suffer from that. However, I do think that they become easily frustrated against tight checking teams like Tampa and the Rags. When you couple that frustration with a lack of forwards with the skill, speed and possession ability to beat that type of system, you will end up with a lot of losses.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 23 @ 10:32 AM ET
Agreed. They need Read to be a consistent player. The lack of secondary scoring is almost as big an issue as the defense.
- PLindbergh31


That's true, but I'd prefer to fix the defense and win 3-1 or 4-2 as opposed to 15-13.
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Dec 23 @ 10:36 AM ET
That's true, but I'd prefer to fix the defense and win 3-1 or 4-2 as opposed to 15-13.
- jmatchett383


Agreed.

If possible, I'd always make sure the D was tightened up first and foremost.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Dec 23 @ 10:36 AM ET
That's true, but I'd prefer to fix the defense and win 3-1 or 4-2 as opposed to 15-13.
- jmatchett383


True. If Giroux and Voracek weren't superhuman so far this year, the Flyers would be smack dab in the middle of the McDavid sweepstakes.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 23 @ 10:38 AM ET
When it comes to lack of intensity, I don't think the Flyers suffer from that. However, I do think that they become easily frustrated against tight checking teams like Tampa and the Rags. When you couple that frustration with a lack of forwards with the skill, speed and possession ability to beat that type of system, you will end up with a lot of losses.
- BiggE



I think frustration is part of it, and that leads to doubts, which all contribute to a lack of intensity on the ice. The Flyers absolutely suffer from wavering intensity from game to game. When they come out and skate, and play a team game in all 3 zones, they are a good team. When they don't match the intensity and work ethic of the opposition, they aren't a good team.
evvander11
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.03.2014

Dec 23 @ 10:42 AM ET
They suck at keeping their 2nd rounders. I thought it was bad, but it's actually ridiculous - seven 2nd round picks in the last 16 drafts.

1999 no 2nd round pick
2000 no 2nd round pick
2001 no 2nd round pick
2002 no 2nd round pick
2003 no 2nd round pick
2004 no 2nd round pick
2005 no 2nd round pick
2006 Nodl, Ratchuk, Bodrov
2007 Marshall
2008 no 2nd round pick
2009 no 2nd round pick
2010 no 2nd round pick
2011 no 2nd round pick
2012 Stolarz
2013 Hagg
2014 NAK

http://en.wikipedia.org/w...elphia_Flyers_draft_picks

- Feanor


Anyone want to put the work in to list what players were actually selected with those picks we didn't have? Would be interesting to see.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Dec 23 @ 10:43 AM ET
Anyone want to put the work in to list what players were actually selected with those picks we didn't have? Would be interesting to see.
- evvander11

I don't
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 23 @ 10:45 AM ET
I don't
- BulliesPhan87


me neither, sounds WAY too much like work!
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Dec 23 @ 10:47 AM ET

me neither, sounds WAY too much like work!

- BiggE

just thinking about it is making me tired, ugh
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Dec 23 @ 10:50 AM ET
Anyone want to put the work in to list what players were actually selected with those picks we didn't have? Would be interesting to see.
- evvander11


It's kind of an exercise in futility. We don't know who the Flyers would have selected if they did make the picks.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Dec 23 @ 10:51 AM ET
It's kind of an exercise in futility. We don't know who the Flyers would have selected if they did make the picks.
- PLindbergh31

probably bad dumb players mirite?
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Dec 23 @ 10:53 AM ET
probably bad dumb players mirite?
- BulliesPhan87


They would have drafted 20 Zac Remaldos.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Dec 23 @ 10:56 AM ET
They would have drafted 20 Zac Remaldos.
- johndewar

in tent city
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 23 @ 10:58 AM ET
Anyone want to put the work in to list what players were actually selected with those picks we didn't have? Would be interesting to see.
- evvander11


1999 Matt Carkner
2000 Agris Saviels
2001 Andrei Medvedev
2002 Maxime Daigneault
2003 Maxim Lapierre
2004 Brandon Dubinsky
2005 Ondrej Pavelec
2008 Dmitri Kugryshev
2009 Richard Panik
2010 Jason Zucker
2011 Lucas Lessio

A goon, a nobody, a nobody, a nobody, a goon, Dubinsky, a bad starter, a nobody, a meh, a nobody, and a nobody.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Dec 23 @ 10:59 AM ET
1999 Matt Carkner
2000 Agris Saviels
2001 Andrei Medvedev
2002 Maxime Daigneault
2003 Maxim Lapierre
2004 Brandon Dubinsky
2005 Ondrej Pavelec
2008 Dmitri Kugryshev
2009 Richard Panik
2010 Jason Zucker
2011 Lucas Lessio

- jmatchett383

look at captain effortgive over here
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 23 @ 11:00 AM ET
look at captain effortgive over here
- BulliesPhan87


Like Rinaldo, I skate hard.
Flyers_1488
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly , PA
Joined: 05.15.2012

Dec 23 @ 11:01 AM ET
Looking forward to Ryan White playing soon!!
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 23 @ 11:06 AM ET
Like Rinaldo, I skate hard.
- jmatchett383

PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Dec 23 @ 11:07 AM ET
Here is a list of players that were taken in the handful of picks after the Flyers would have selected in the second rounds of the drafts they didn't have picks.

Dominic Moore
Mike Rupp
Craig Anderson
Jay Mclement
Brandon Dubinsky
Alex Goligoski
David Krejci
Paul Stastny
Johnny Boychuk
Juri Hudler
Matt Stajan
David Backes
Richard Panik
Eric Gelinas

My favorite is 2 picks after the Flyers selected Kevin Marshall in 2007 some guy named Subban was taken.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 23 @ 11:07 AM ET
Looking forward to Ryan White playing soon!!
- Flyers_1488


Oh yeah, White will give us the speed and skill we need for sure
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 23 @ 11:08 AM ET
Here is a list of players that were taken in the handful of picks after the Flyers would have selected in the second rounds of the drafts they didn't have picks.

Dominic Moore
Mike Rupp
Craig Anderson
Jay Mclement
Brandon Dubinsky
Alex Goligoski
David Krejci
Paul Stastny
Johnny Boychuk
Juri Hudler
Matt Stajan
David Backes
Richard Panik
Eric Gelinas

My favorite is 2 picks after the Flyers selected Kevin Marshall in 2007 some guy named Subban was taken.

- PLindbergh31


Are you trying to ruin my day???
evvander11
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.03.2014

Dec 23 @ 11:09 AM ET
It's kind of an exercise in futility. We don't know who the Flyers would have selected if they did make the picks.
- PLindbergh31


Hence why i asked if anyone else was willing to put in the work. My curiosity was just high enough to want to see the results but not actually look it up...

Thanks jmatchett383!
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Dec 23 @ 11:10 AM ET
Are you trying to ruin my day???

- BiggE


Marshall would own Subban all day long dancing the line on the Soul Train!!!!

BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 23 @ 11:10 AM ET
Marshall would own Subban all day long dancing the line on the Soul Train!!!!


- PLindbergh31

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