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Fortress19
Joined: 02.26.2009

Dec 27 @ 10:58 PM ET
Could u imagine what we'd look like up front with Hall and one of the top2 picks?
That would be pretty awesome

- jdfitz77


Yea, but we're going to have a 9% chance at the top pick instead of 100%. I truly believe Hall is in play. Murray has to get him if he can. Aside from 28 or 55, I move anyone in any package.
Buffalo-Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I lost a bet, NY
Joined: 07.05.2007

Dec 27 @ 11:00 PM ET
I don't have to apologize to anyone for being a Sabres fan or for enjoying wins. It's not my job to figure out how we are supposed to acquire elite talent. They have a whole team of people to figure that out.



The Edmonton Oilers. We just can't compete with that level of suck. We would have to tank at such an obvious level to securely be below them, that it would be far beneath the good people that own and run our team.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Dec 27 @ 11:01 PM ET
EDM would be better off with a cut out in net. They don't want to improve at goal. McDavid might not amount to anything on that circus show sadly.
- Fortress19


They've gotta want to do something in net...
How long till Hall, Eberle, etc start to demand a trade?
This is gotta be getting pretty old for them by now
If they could get a decent goalie & defenseman, they could be a decent team... Or at least start making some strides

Fortress19
Joined: 02.26.2009

Dec 27 @ 11:05 PM ET
They've gotta want to do something in net...
How long till Hall, Eberle, etc start to demand a trade?
This is gotta be getting pretty old for them by now
If they could get a decent goalie & defenseman, they could be a decent team... Or at least start making some strides

- jdfitz77


Yea, hopefully the players start to complain publicallly and demand trades. I don't remember a team ever being this bad.
Sabresfan88
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville, TN
Joined: 08.01.2011

Dec 27 @ 11:13 PM ET
This team is really starting to compete in each and every game now.
With a few critical additions, I believe we will be good enough to win.
Buffalo-Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I lost a bet, NY
Joined: 07.05.2007

Dec 27 @ 11:24 PM ET
This team is really starting to compete in each and every game now.
With a few critical additions, I believe we will be good enough to win.

- Sabresfan88



They did lose 4 in a row leading up to this.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Dec 27 @ 11:45 PM ET
I don't have to apologize to anyone for being a Sabres fan or for enjoying wins. It's not my job to figure out how we are supposed to acquire elite talent. They have a whole team of people to figure that out.



The Edmonton Oilers. We just can't compete with that level of suck. We would have to tank at such an obvious level to securely be below them, that it would be far beneath the good people that own and run our team.

- Buffalo-Sabres

Can't say I disagree, thru won't lose 30 in a row, they're going to win games (both teams really) but at the current rate they're still on track to draft a great player
Buffalo-Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I lost a bet, NY
Joined: 07.05.2007

Dec 27 @ 11:47 PM ET
Can't say I disagree, thru won't lose 30 in a row, they're going to win games (both teams really) but at the current rate they're still on track to draft a great player
- Sabresfan-365




They have to hope that if they land where they are now, the hockey gods throw them a bone and they win the lottery. Outside of that I don't believe Tim Murray is incompetent. I think that even outside of getting Mceichel, his determination and Pegula's solid finances will give us a team to be proud of. A team that can compete for a cup.
nfph
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Schadenfreude, NY
Joined: 09.22.2006

Dec 27 @ 11:53 PM ET
That was a hell of an entertaining game!
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Dec 28 @ 12:04 AM ET
They have to hope that if they land where they are now, the hockey gods throw them a bone and they win the lottery. Outside of that I don't believe Tim Murray is incompetent. I think that even outside of getting Mceichel, his determination and Pegula's solid finances will give us a team to be proud of. A team that can compete for a cup.
- Buffalo-Sabres

Agreed, Id still be upset but as you said I imagine they considered this scenario bring plausible before the season started. I don't think it will come to that but I have to believe they're ready for it
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Dec 28 @ 12:13 AM ET
Can't say I disagree, thru won't lose 30 in a row, they're going to win games (both teams really) but at the current rate they're still on track to draft a great player
- Sabresfan-365


If you're the Oilers...
Would u consider trading down to #3 to draft Hanifin?
Obv defense is a huge need for them
And although it would only be a spot or 2, they still prob get a nice return in addition to the 3rd pick

feetontheair22
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Tampa doesn't suck, FL
Joined: 02.01.2011

Dec 28 @ 12:16 AM ET



I would say Lucic got his revenge in this one...

- rmiethaner


Lucic can eat a Richard
grand-magus
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "...i'd say you were high on mushrooms", GMTM, NY
Joined: 06.06.2014

Dec 28 @ 12:17 AM ET
How many Sabres fans turned the game off?
- Buffalo-Sabres



Not me.

Never.

Glutton for punishment many nights, I suppose, but tonight was my reward for sticking with these lovable losers.

I want McEichel, but it's so much fun when the team wins.
Buffalo-Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I lost a bet, NY
Joined: 07.05.2007

Dec 28 @ 12:18 AM ET



I would say Lucic got his revenge in this one...

- rmiethaner



Just watched this. From 30 to 36 seconds Prout is just toying with him thinking the fight was over. Prout had ample opportunity to knock Lucic TFO! He did the right thing and Lucic took advantage. Scumbag Bruins prevail again.
Fortress19
Joined: 02.26.2009

Dec 28 @ 12:29 AM ET
Not me.

Never.

Glutton for punishment many nights, I suppose, but tonight was my reward for sticking with these lovable losers.

I want McEichel, but it's so much fun when the team wins.

- grand-magus


Hahaha how is it sooo much fun when they win, I don't get it? There's not more than 5 players who will even be here next year and they're going back and forth from 27th to 26th. Never mind the fact that these aren't our sabres, they're talentless plug ins.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Dec 28 @ 12:32 AM ET
If you're the Oilers...
Would u consider trading down to #3 to draft Hanifin?
Obv defense is a huge need for them
And although it would only be a spot or 2, they still prob get a nice return in addition to the 3rd pick

- jdfitz77


They need another player down the middle pretty badly as well though. Any other draft maybe but its "mceichel" so it may not be there play. Remember this is the organization who's owner stepped in and told them not to trade down in the yakupov draft.

I also think they're at the point where they don't want to be acquiring players for 3 years from now. They have assets in the top 6, my guess is they swing for the fences on a veteran guy. They need to get the fans back into it as well, the kids won't cut it like it used to 5 years ago.
joshs
Buffalo Sabres
Location: cheektowaga, NY
Joined: 07.07.2012

Dec 28 @ 12:33 AM ET
If you're the Oilers...
Would u consider trading down to #3 to draft Hanifin?
Obv defense is a huge need for them
And although it would only be a spot or 2, they still prob get a nice return in addition to the 3rd pick

- jdfitz77


I don't think any team is trading away McDavid by choice, even Edmonton.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Dec 28 @ 12:36 AM ET
Oilers are a complete train wreck.

Shame nobody will remember it in a few years when mceichel is carrying the team.

joshs
Buffalo Sabres
Location: cheektowaga, NY
Joined: 07.07.2012

Dec 28 @ 12:36 AM ET
They need another player down the middle pretty badly as well though. Any other draft maybe but its "mceichel" so it may not be there play. Remember this is the organization who's owner stepped in and told them not to trade down in the yakupov draft.

I also think they're at the point where they don't want to be acquiring players for 3 years from now. They have assets in the top 6, my guess is they swing for the fences on a veteran guy. They need to get the fans back into it as well, the kids won't cut it like it used to 5 years ago.

- Sabresfan-365


Wait, I thought their were no good trade offers in the yakupov draft and that is why Edmonton didn't trade down?!!?
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Dec 28 @ 12:37 AM ET
Wait, I thought their were no good trade offers in the yakupov draft and that is why Edmonton didn't trade down?!!?
- joshs



Owner stepped in and said no.

Edit misread, but apparently they had 2 reasonable offers. Of course, "reasonable" can be interpreted differently.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Dec 28 @ 12:41 AM ET
I don't have to apologize to anyone for being a Sabres fan or for enjoying wins. It's not my job to figure out how we are supposed to acquire elite talent. They have a whole team of people to figure that out.



The Edmonton Oilers. We just can't compete with that level of suck. We would have to tank at such an obvious level to securely be below them, that it would be far beneath the good people that own and run our team.

- Buffalo-Sabres


At this point, it's hope to finish second last, and one of Edmonton or Buffalo win the lottery.
joshs
Buffalo Sabres
Location: cheektowaga, NY
Joined: 07.07.2012

Dec 28 @ 12:43 AM ET
Oilers are a complete train wreck.

Shame nobody will remember it in a few years when mceichel is carrying the team.

- Sabresfan-365


what I find to be bs is that their gm still works for them. But I guess the plane is to rebuild the oilers dynasty and bring back the glory days.
grand-magus
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "...i'd say you were high on mushrooms", GMTM, NY
Joined: 06.06.2014

Dec 28 @ 1:10 AM ET
Hahaha how is it sooo much fun when they win, I don't get it? There's not more than 5 players who will even be here next year and they're going back and forth from 27th to 26th. Never mind the fact that these aren't our sabres, they're talentless plug ins.
- Fortress19



Um, because I like it when my (frank)ing team wins.

Not a hard concept to grasp.


Anyway, Ennis, Moulson, Risto, Zads, Gorges, Myers, Deslauriers, Gionta, one of the goalies, Grigs (that's 10 off the top of my head) will be here.
Dedshark
New York Islanders
Location: Amityville, NY
Joined: 04.01.2008

Dec 28 @ 4:12 AM ET
I think it's bullpoop of the oilers get the #1 pick. Yes I know it should goto the worst team (excluding lottery), but they've picked @ 10, 1, 1, 1, 8... and are now looking at #1 again with a generational player attached. Talk about not building a team around these guys.
joshs
Buffalo Sabres
Location: cheektowaga, NY
Joined: 07.07.2012

Dec 28 @ 5:52 AM ET
I think it's bullpoop of the oilers get the #1 pick. Yes I know it should goto the worst team (excluding lottery), but they've picked @ 10, 1, 1, 1, 8... and are now looking at #1 again with a generational player attached. Talk about not building a team around these guys.
- Dedshark


nhl should step in.
Place point values for top 10 picks.
1st pick=5 points
2nd pick=4points
3rd pick=3 points
4-7=2 points
8-10=1 point
Anything after 10 recieves 0 point value bcz that team is trying to make the playoffs.

In a period of 3 consecutive years no team can exceed 10 points. (trading does not affect the position you would select). If a team recieved 2 consecutive #1 overall picks the following season they will draft no better than 11th overall.

Right now there is no incentive to atleast try and maybe end up 5th last instead of last place. This system is not perfect but atleast it would promote perennial bottom feeders to atleast try to win a few games and make it harder for gms to dynasty build with all top 10 picks.
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