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Buffalo-Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I lost a bet, NY
Joined: 07.05.2007

Dec 28 @ 1:13 PM ET
An offer sheet has to be accepted by the player. Teams can call his agent and try to get him to sign, but if he says no, it's a moot point.
- HonkFortheGoose



I see. We're all good them. Nolan, Murray, Pegula. Why would he leave?
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
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Dec 28 @ 1:13 PM ET
Not up until July of 16.

They have a full year to get the deal done prior.

Do you try to get him signed to a 8 year deal in the 5-6 range or a 2-3 year bridge deal?

Keep in mind(I'm not positive but) I believe he is a UFA at 25.

- dadeadhead


It may be really naive of me, but I just don't see an offer sheet being something we have to worry about with him anyway.

He's the leader of this team and will have the C once Gionta retires. I say just do the 8 year deal and be done with it for the better part of a decade.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Dec 28 @ 1:13 PM ET
Should I just turn the game off now? Orton has already had his drive. Downhill from here, right?
- buffalofan19

Yes.

They should just try and get Sammy a 200+ yard game and throw to him 70 times
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
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Dec 28 @ 1:17 PM ET
It may be really naive of me, but I just don't see an offer sheet being something we have to worry about with him anyway.

He's the leader of this team and will have the C once Gionta retires. I say just do the 8 year deal and be done with it for the better part of a decade.

- HonkFortheGoose



It will take 5-6 mil per to get an 8yr deal signed.
HonkFortheGoose
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Dec 28 @ 1:19 PM ET
It will take 5-6 mil per to get an 8yr deal signed.
- dadeadhead


I'm fine with that. It shows a commitment to the new core of the team and I think that will be important when it comes time to sign some of the other young guys that were drafted after him.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
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Dec 28 @ 1:20 PM ET
It will take 5-6 mil per to get an 8yr deal signed.
- dadeadhead

I don't want to give a player an 8 year deal unless he's elite. Girgensons has been very good, but it's in a year where they're not winning, and really have no expectations. That's not where I want to roll the dice.

It also makes guys like Reinhart et. al tougher to sign, assuming they make the impact we hope they do.
dadeadhead
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Dec 28 @ 1:23 PM ET
Jagr needs 117 points to pass Mess for #2 All Time, does he play long enough to do it?
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 12.09.2012

Dec 28 @ 1:24 PM ET
I don't want to give a player an 8 year deal unless he's elite. Girgensons has been very good, but it's in a year where they're not winning, and really have no expectations. That's not where I want to roll the dice.

It also makes guys like Reinhart et. al tougher to sign, assuming they make the impact we hope they do.

- buffalofan19



Kinda sets the precedent too, edmonton had a similar problem(shocking i know)

Once they paid one of them big money instead of a bridge deal, you knew the others were going to lineup asking for similar money, and those guys are closer to elite status.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
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Dec 28 @ 1:24 PM ET
I don't want to give a player an 8 year deal unless he's elite. Girgensons has been very good, but it's in a year where they're not winning, and really have no expectations. That's not where I want to roll the dice.

It also makes guys like Reinhart et. al tougher to sign, assuming they make the impact we hope they do.

- buffalofan19

Have a 50-60 point season before we talk about 7-8 year deals
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
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Dec 28 @ 1:25 PM ET
I don't want to give a player an 8 year deal unless he's elite. Girgensons has been very good, but it's in a year where they're not winning, and really have no expectations. That's not where I want to roll the dice.

It also makes guys like Reinhart et. al tougher to sign, assuming they make the impact we hope they do.

- buffalofan19



If he is your future captain, what message does it show by not locking him up for as long as allowed?
Sabresfan-365
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Dec 28 @ 1:26 PM ET
Jagr needs 117 points to pass Mess for #2 All Time, does he play long enough to do it?
- dadeadhead



I could see him playing one more after this but im not sure that'll be enough. Maybe NJ moves him to a team with a very good offense and he lights it up there.
Buffalo-Sabres
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Dec 28 @ 1:26 PM ET
I don't want to give a player an 8 year deal unless he's elite. Girgensons has been very good, but it's in a year where they're not winning, and really have no expectations. That's not where I want to roll the dice.

It also makes guys like Reinhart et. al tougher to sign, assuming they make the impact we hope they do.

- buffalofan19



I guess one would assume if you have an organization that is desirable to play for who has a good relationship with its players you don't need rediculously long contracts.

Correction: I just looked at Pittsburgh's Capgeek page.
HonkFortheGoose
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Dec 28 @ 1:30 PM ET
If he is your future captain, what message does it show by not locking him up for as long as allowed?
- dadeadhead


Ray was talking about this on the radio about 2 weeks ago. He said that it's Girgs once Gionta retires. I know that Ray isn't always the smartest when it comes to things, but he spends a good amount of time in that locker room with the team.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
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Dec 28 @ 1:31 PM ET
If he is your future captain, what message does it show by not locking him up for as long as allowed?
- dadeadhead

I don't think it's written in stone he's the future captain.

Especially if McDavid ends up here.

dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
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Dec 28 @ 1:33 PM ET
Should I just turn the game off now? Orton has already had his drive. Downhill from here, right?
- buffalofan19



Wire season 3 is being played on HBO.
BuffaloHardHat
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Dec 28 @ 1:38 PM ET
I agree Goose.

Gus will be the captain of this team after Gionta retires.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
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Dec 28 @ 1:39 PM ET
I don't think it's written in stone he's the future captain.

Especially if McDavid ends up here.

- sbroads24



Curtis Lazar agrees.........

sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
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Dec 28 @ 1:41 PM ET
Curtis Lazar agrees.........


- dadeadhead

Lazar is older. He'd be captain of the US team too
Der Kaiser
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Dec 28 @ 1:42 PM ET
I agree Goose.

Gus will be the captain of this team after Gionta retires.

- BuffaloHardHat

Do you think the franchise should give Girgs a Myers-like contract?

dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
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Dec 28 @ 1:44 PM ET
Lazar is older. He'd be captain of the US team too
- sbroads24



But McDavid is on the team.

Shouldn't he be captain?


All kidding aside even if we get lucky enough to get McDavid, this is Girgensons team.
HonkFortheGoose
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Dec 28 @ 1:46 PM ET
But McDavid is on the team.

Shouldn't he be captain?


All kidding aside even if we get lucky enough to get McDavid, this is Girgensons team.

- dadeadhead


sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
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Dec 28 @ 1:47 PM ET
But McDavid is on the team.

Shouldn't he be captain?


All kidding aside even if we get lucky enough to get McDavid, this is Girgensons team.

- dadeadhead

It's Girgensons team right now because we don't have many good players.

In 3 years that's not the case. Girgensons is still incredibly immature away from the rink. Pulling the "Do you know who I am" card at Encore downtown.

I love the player, but I don't think it's written in stone
BuffaloHardHat
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Dec 28 @ 1:48 PM ET
Do you think the franchise should give Girgs a Myers-like contract?


- Der Kaiser

I like what you did there.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
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Dec 28 @ 1:49 PM ET
It's Girgensons team right now because we don't have many good players.

In 3 years that's not the case. Girgensons is still incredibly immature away from the rink. Pulling the "Do you know who I am" card at Encore downtown.

I love the player, but I don't think it's written in stone

- sbroads24


They all go through things like this. You're assuming that McDavid wouldn't have the same attitude.

And where does it say that the Captain has to be the best player on the team? Dustin Brown has 2 Stanley Cups.
Der Kaiser
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Dec 28 @ 1:49 PM ET
But McDavid is on the team.

Shouldn't he be captain?


All kidding aside even if we get lucky enough to get McDavid, this is Girgensons team.

- dadeadhead

Eichel supposedly has UNREAL leadership quality.
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