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Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Dec 29 @ 9:58 PM ET
Future is only 2-3 years. Grossman is a warrior and the best defensive defenseman on the team at the moment and Streit can easily play until he is 40. Kimmo was still effective, Jagr is still going, plenty of guys these days are playing longer than before. My version of the future has these Dmen until their contracts are up and then they are replaced by the younger guys. If you were to deal everyone now. You'd be left with:

AMac- MDZ
Streit - Grossman
Laurisden - Alt (Possibly let him stay in the minors)
Manning

At the end of the season, if Alt played well he gets a spot, if not you grab two UFAs short term. 2 Years later Grosmann is gone, Morin likely is ready by then maybe even before. Streit is done the year after and Ghost will be on his way up. Pronger's contract is now finally off the books. This frees up a good amount of space for any more Dmen to fill up the team if Haag, Sanheim and Pettersson are not ready.

- xShoot4WarAmpsx


Grossmann's defensive prowess is vastly overrated. He works hard and he plays tough, but he's not some great shut down guy.

I'm sure Streit can play another year or two. but at the TDL, he could also end up being worth a late 1st rounder.

If Lauridsen is in the NHL again, it will likely be with an expansion team. He's really made little or no progress and I doubt he's in team's long term plans at this point.

There's not a single untouchable on this roster of defensemen. If I got value for any of them, I'd happily agree to make a move
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Dec 29 @ 9:59 PM ET

First period recap: The Yotes sucked, the Flyers sucked a bit more

- BiggE


Except sadly they didnt..
Flyers outshot them significantly, controlled most of the play and held them without a shot for something like 7 consecutive minutes.

What looked like a save-able goal is the big difference.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Dec 29 @ 9:59 PM ET
The greatest blooper in the history of film. Except this is actually *in* the theatrical cut. In fact it's in every release except the newest Blu-Ray set.
- ThirdEye


They cut it? Damnit. For the one remaster, Lucas actually added the "thunk"
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Dec 29 @ 10:01 PM ET
Switching back between the WJC and the Flyers and I swear the WJC game is being played at a higher level
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 29 @ 10:02 PM ET
They cut it? Damnit. For the one remaster, Lucas actually added the "thunk"
- Jsaquella

BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 29 @ 10:03 PM ET
Except sadly they didnt..
Flyers outshot them significantly, controlled most of the play and held them without a shot for something like 7 consecutive minutes.

What looked like a save-able goal is the big difference.

- opeth_pa


ok, they slightly outplayed a bad team


yay
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Dec 29 @ 10:03 PM ET
ok, they slightly outplayed a bad team


yay™

- BiggE

BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 29 @ 10:04 PM ET
[quote=PhillySportsGuy]
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Dec 29 @ 10:04 PM ET
Raffl gets stood up and hit hard a lot.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Dec 29 @ 10:04 PM ET

- BiggE


First ones free. Second one costs the Key West house
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Dec 29 @ 10:06 PM ET
ok, they slightly outplayed a bad team


yay

- BiggE


Unlike this period where they are getting significantly outplayed by a bad team.. lol
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Dec 29 @ 10:06 PM ET
Jees man these kids can't even receive passes. Hockey 101 for franks sake.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 29 @ 10:07 PM ET
First ones free. Second one costs the Key West house
- PhillySportsGuy


Keep dreaming, btw, heading back down Monday
ThirdEye
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ardmore, PA
Joined: 01.04.2013

Dec 29 @ 10:08 PM ET
They cut it? Damnit. For the one remaster, Lucas actually added the "thunk"
- Jsaquella


Looks like I was wrong. It's still in there. Whew.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Dec 29 @ 10:08 PM ET
Looks like I was wrong. It's still in there. Whew.
- ThirdEye


That was the one change I liked
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Dec 29 @ 10:08 PM ET
Grossmann's defensive prowess is vastly overrated. He works hard and he plays tough, but he's not some great shut down guy.

I'm sure Streit can play another year or two. but at the TDL, he could also end up being worth a late 1st rounder.

If Lauridsen is in the NHL again, it will likely be with an expansion team. He's really made little or no progress and I doubt he's in team's long term plans at this point.

There's not a single untouchable on this roster of defensemen. If I got value for any of them, I'd happily agree to make a move

- Jsaquella


The point of Laurisden is to just take up a roster spot for the year. This team won't that much worse with him than they guys playing together. You could trade streit before the final year, not disagreeing there but right now you can't really trade away everyone, aside from Laurisden, Manning and maybe Konan the rest of the Dmen down in the minors have some potential. I only want the 3 guys whos only shot at the NHL comes right now, maybe we get lucky and one of these guys actually pans out.
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Dec 29 @ 10:08 PM ET
Mason battling the puck a bit. To be expected 1st game back from injury. Vinny with a marvelous defensive gaffe.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Dec 29 @ 10:09 PM ET
How's Vinny doing BTW I see he has 5 SOG.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Dec 29 @ 10:09 PM ET

Keep dreaming, btw, heading back down Monday

- BiggE


I'm going in March. I plan on watching a bunch of no names play spring training games for the Phillies. By no names I mean the actual starting lineup
FlyerFan16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CT
Joined: 09.21.2014

Dec 29 @ 10:09 PM ET
Grossmann's defensive prowess is vastly overrated. He works hard and he plays tough, but he's not some great shut down guy.

I'm sure Streit can play another year or two. but at the TDL, he could also end up being worth a late 1st rounder.

If Lauridsen is in the NHL again, it will likely be with an expansion team. He's really made little or no progress and I doubt he's in team's long term plans at this point.

There's not a single untouchable on this roster of defensemen. If I got value for any of them, I'd happily agree to make a move

- Jsaquella

The guy I'd love to see them move the most at the deadline is MacDonald. Although a late first for Streit would be nice, I could live with him for another year or so.
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Dec 29 @ 10:10 PM ET
How's Vinny doing BTW I see he has 5 SOG.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

4th line is working hard and a couple sustained offensive zone shifts, generating some scoring chances. Bad turnover a moment ago though that was dangerous.
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Dec 29 @ 10:11 PM ET
Giroux's line getting shut down beautifully.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Dec 29 @ 10:11 PM ET
The point of Laurisden is to just take up a roster spot for the year. This team won't that much worse with him than they guys playing together. You could trade streit before the final year, not disagreeing there but right now you can't really trade away everyone, aside from Laurisden, Manning and maybe Konan the rest of the Dmen down in the minors have some potential. I only want the 3 guys whos only shot at the NHL comes right now, maybe we get lucky and one of these guys actually pans out.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx


They can sign a UFA for a couple years if Streit is traded. Nobody on this D is irreplaceable. I'm not saying trade everyone, I'm saying that I would trade any of them, if I got value.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Dec 29 @ 10:12 PM ET
The guy I'd love to see them move the most at the deadline is MacDonald. Although a late first for Streit would be nice, I could live with him for another year or so.
- FlyerFan16


I can live with keeping any of them, as well... I'm not saying trade them all, I'm saying if you get good value for one of them, jump at it.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Dec 29 @ 10:12 PM ET
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