It's obvious to me now that someone got a banning for Christmas.
- mayorofangrytown

No I'm still here

No I'm still here
- Streit2ThePoint

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- -davies-

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- -davies-

Good choice on your team, they are the best in the NHL

He has been passed over by others. I would be shocked if he is signed to a new deal.
- J35Bacher

I think there was an article awhile back (maybe Bill's?) including Lauridson, saying there is a high probability he's headed over seas when his contract is up.

Good choice on your team, they are the best in the NHL
- Streit2ThePoint

lol they started winning when i changed it... time to change back i guess

They died. He's not likely in their future plans. The AHL games I have seen, he's looked very meh. Gets beat outside a lot and doesn't do enough to compensate for it.
- Jsaquella

And he takes some godawful penalties. Just straight up undisciplined stuff. Instead of being clean physical, he would tend to just get sloppy a lot of times... unless he's changed his style, as I haven't been able to make any Phantoms games this season... but I kinda doubt he changed.

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- BiggE

Every time JS posts an opinion I imagine somewhere a taped up bean bag chair is getting the sh!t kicked out of it.

See, dunno if he can get moved either. Term = death.
- Tomahawk

Grossman absolutely can be moved. He has more of playoff pedigree and frankly is flat out better than Luke. Not sure you'll get more than a 3rd though

lol they started winning when i changed it... time to change back i guess
- -davies-

Very possible. I was thinking that applied more to a guy like MacDonald or even Read.
- Jsaquella

I just know I sure as hell wouldn't want the Flyers trading for a depth players on contracts like those with the CAD projected to keep dropping deep into Q3 2015.

It's obvious to me now that someone got a banning for Christmas.
- mayorofangrytown

Yup. I was thinking the same thing.

Every time JS posts an opinion I imagine somewhere a taped up bean bag chair is getting the sh!t kicked out of it.


- mayorofangrytown

After Vinny, MacDonald is the contract I want to move the most. He's very average and his contract is awful value.
- Jsaquella

I also don't get this whole " we can't move all our vets because we need some for the prospects when they come up" thing some people keep putting out there. Even if they move Coburn, Grossmann and Macdonald as an exampl you still have Schenn and Streit and maybe even Del Zotto. There are some UFA's that might inerest this year.
Age
Adam McQuaid - 28
Matt Bartowski - 26
Matt Irwin - 27
Ryan Wilson - 27

Grossman absolutely can be moved. He has more of playoff pedigree and frankly is flat out better than Luke. Not sure you'll get more than a 3rd though
- Just5

Grossmann can get em a 2nd. GMs go apepoop overboard for dmen on deadline day.
See: Murray, Douglas

Yup. I was thinking the same thing.
- wolfhounds

Is it too much to hope its a lifetime ban?

Grossman absolutely can be moved. He has more of playoff pedigree and frankly is flat out better than Luke. Not sure you'll get more than a 3rd though
- Just5

If Douglas Murray got 2 2nds then Grossmann has some value. Murray is a glazier on the ice. Grossmann moves even better then him.

I just know I sure as hell wouldn't want the Flyers trading for a depth players on contracts like those with the CAD projected to keep dropping deep into Q3 2015.
- Tomahawk

No, but other teams might. It gives them a year of somewhat affordable control, and the cap is still expected to rise next season. It's when we go past 2016 where that impact is dangerous

Is it too much to hope its a lifetime ban?
- BiggE

did a certain someone just get Pete Rose'd?

Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: Too Little, Too Late for Flyers, WJC Update, Alumni
- bmeltzer

One step closer to Pavel Zacha or Mitch Marner

One step closer to Pavel Zacha or Mitch Marner
- ob18

There's one really heavy ping pong ball with a Flyers logo on it. Right now Gary's tossing it in the air and giggling into his cell phone to Bill Daly.

If Douglas Murray got 2 2nds then Grossmann has some value. Murray is a glazier on the ice. Grossmann moves even better then him.
- J35Bacher

It's not about his value as a PO piece... it's about not adding a contract that may push a team over the cap in an uncertain economic climate.

Expiring Hejda / Michalek / Salvador / Hannan / Carkner / Weaver / Allen / Gleason / Schultz >>> Grossmann 2-years left.

The cap could still drop next year, and growth will probably be slower moving forward.

It's not about his value as a PO piece... it's about not adding a contract that may push a team over the cap in an uncertain economic climate.

Expiring Hejda / Michalek / Salvador / Hannan / Carkner / Weaver / Allen / Gleason / Schultz >>> Grossmann 2-years left.
- Tomahawk

I understand but if the team likes Grossmann better then those players listed and think this is the year for them to win the cup then they will make the deal and then deal with the contracts later.

No team will say no to winning a cup because of what might happen two years from now.

I understand but if the team likes Grossmann better then those players listed and think this is the year for them to win the cup then they will make the deal and then deal with the contracts later.

No team will say no to winning a cup because of what might happen two years from now.
- J35Bacher

Grossmann's a 5-7 guy on a Cup team... not really the kind of player you throw caution to the wind for, nor the kind of player that's gonna really push a team over the top, right?

The marginal diff between him and a GM's 'next best guy' just isn't big enough to elicit the risk.

Grossmann's a 5-7 guy on a Cup team... not really the kind of player you throw caution to the wind for, nor the kind of player that's gonna really push a team over the top, right?

The marginal diff between him and a GM's 'next best guy' just isn't big enough to illicit the risk.
- Tomahawk[/quote]


We would kill our GM if he went with the slightly lesser version just because we thought "maybe" two years from now their could be cap problems.

There are ways to get cap compliant when the time comes. But if it costs them a cup I would be very pissed because we wanted to try and prepare for 2 years from now. I am not saying Grossmann is the answer to a cup but if some GM thinks he solidfies the defense for a team going on a cup run then they would make the deal.