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NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Dec 30 @ 2:21 PM ET
Agree with all of that. Plus, if you really like Schultz that much, you tell him, "We're doing this, in part to give you a shot at a Stanley Cup. We really like how you've played for us and we're definitely interested in you if you opt to hit the free agent market"

Boom. You get an asset, and also grease the skids for a possible return, if you really like the guy that much.

- Jsaquella


Exactly. Schultz is due for a regression too. He's been playing above his average level of the past few years. Well worth a 3rd. If not, I don't think replacing him would be all that hard. Morin may step in next year and be better.
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Dec 30 @ 2:21 PM ET
Lots of rumours about kids jumping to the CHL after the WJCs. Anyone think Eichel is one of them?
- mayorofangrytown


He's from the Boston area so I doubt he'll want to leave Boston U. Besides, he's only got half a season until he's in the NHL for good.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Dec 30 @ 2:22 PM ET
Lots of rumours about kids jumping to the CHL after the WJCs. Anyone think Eichel is one of them?
- mayorofangrytown


Maybe. Team that drafts him likely keeps him on the NHL roster immediately, but it allows him to sign a contract sooner and play in CHL.

Draislatl was supposedly going to go back to Europe if he didn't make NHL immediately, but there was a trade for his WHL rights.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Dec 30 @ 2:23 PM ET
Lots of rumours about kids jumping to the CHL after the WJCs. Anyone think Eichel is one of them?
- mayorofangrytown


Halifax drafted him... he could have played w/ MacKinnon, Drouin and Ehlers.
Trainfellow
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.23.2012

Dec 30 @ 2:24 PM ET
The whole top 10 looks stacked. And Berube has us back down to 7th.

http://www.mynhldraft.com/NHL-Mock-Draft/

- Feanor



EDM has already met their quota for top picks in the last decade... Enough is enough
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Dec 30 @ 2:24 PM ET
Exactly. Schultz is due for a regression too. He's been playing above his average level of the past few years. Well worth a 3rd. If not, I don't think replacing him would be all that hard. Morin may step in next year and be better.
- NickTheKid87


That's another factor. Schultz has played better than he has in a couple seasons. Is he going to slip back? If he does, his value could drop. If he gets re-signed before hand, it could end up being another albatross.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Dec 30 @ 2:26 PM ET
Maybe. Team that drafts him likely keeps him on the NHL roster immediately, but it allows him to sign a contract sooner and play in CHL.

Draislatl was supposedly going to go back to Europe if he didn't make NHL immediately, but there was a trade for his WHL rights.

- Jsaquella

Aren't his rights held by the host team for the memorial cup or is that Demco. I can't remember. It would give him a taste of the extended season and I heard he expects to jump straight to the NHL so it might be in his best interest to playout the second half in the CHL.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Dec 30 @ 2:27 PM ET
Heatley and Paajarvi both clear waivers
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Dec 30 @ 2:31 PM ET
Aren't his rights held by the host team for the memorial cup or is that Demco. I can't remember. It would give him a taste of the extended season and I heard he expects to jump straight to the NHL so it might be in his best interest to playout the second half in the CHL.
- mayorofangrytown


I think Chicoutimi is hosting, both guys rights are held by WHL teams

EDIT Quebec is hosting, Chicoutimi was a leading bidder, but lost out to the Remparts
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Dec 30 @ 2:32 PM ET
Heatley and Paajarvi both clear waivers
- Tomahawk


that really pisses me off.

that is my version of why in the world is del zotto constantly scratched.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Dec 30 @ 2:32 PM ET
Heatley and Paajarvi both clear waivers
- Tomahawk


Heatley already demoted, haven't seen Paajarvi shipped out yet
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Dec 30 @ 2:34 PM ET
Heatley and Paajarvi both clear waivers
- Tomahawk


This is Paarjarvi's last year under contract, then a RFA. I don't know what the rules are pertaining to this, but if I were Hexy I'd be thinking about contacting this kid. If we didn't have Vinny and Umberger.

There are three points that are absolutely critical to appreciating what kind of player Paajarvi is, and all of them were identified before he was drafted. A few months prior to the 2009 NHL draft, The Hockey News’ Ryan Kennedy spoke to scouts for an article in that magazine’s Future Watch issue. Finish was identified as a problem by one scout, who said Paajarvi lacked focus around the net, but that same scout noted the player’s speed and drive.

“His skating is definitely his best asset by far,” the scout told Kennedy. “Work ethic is second.”

Whoever that unnamed scout is, he called it. Paajarvi’s speed and willingness to work have been his best qualities as an NHL forward; his inability to score has been his weakest point.

The former 10th overall pick has not been an offensive weapon of any particular note in the majors; he possesses speed and decent playmaking vision but simply lacks goal-scoring ability. At virtually every level, he’s been a volume shooter who simply can’t manage a double-digit shooting percentage.

But that doesn’t mean Paajarvi has no utility as an NHL player; it just means he won’t be anchoring a scoring line.

Paajarvi has virtually all the tools that NHL teams look for in a defensive specialist. He skates like the wind, meaning he can get back in a hurry when the situation calls for it, and he can recover from a mistake that would doom a slower player. He’s listed at 6’3”, 208 pounds, which means he has above-average size for an NHL forward; not only can he get to where he needs to go in a hurry, but it’s also difficult to overpower him physically.


http://bleacherreport.com...is-blues-drop-the-forward
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Dec 30 @ 2:35 PM ET
This is Paarjarvi's last year under contract, then a RFA. I don't know what the rules are pertaining to this, but if I were Hexy I'd be thinking about contacting this kid. If we didn't have Vinny and Umberger.



http://bleacherreport.com...is-blues-drop-the-forward

- wolfhounds


He'd be ideal as the LW on the Couturier-Read line.
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Dec 30 @ 2:36 PM ET
That's another factor. Schultz has played better than he has in a couple seasons. Is he going to slip back? If he does, his value could drop. If he gets re-signed before hand, it could end up being another albatross.
- Jsaquella


I would give him anything more than a one year deal. Two if it's for pennies.
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Dec 30 @ 2:38 PM ET
This is Paarjarvi's last year under contract, then a RFA. I don't know what the rules are pertaining to this, but if I were Hexy I'd be thinking about contacting this kid. If we didn't have Vinny and Umberger.



http://bleacherreport.com...is-blues-drop-the-forward

- wolfhounds


I would like him. What do they have to lose? Nothing.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Dec 30 @ 2:38 PM ET
I would give him anything more than a one year deal. Two if it's for pennies.
- NickTheKid87


Agreed, but if he's a guy you'd like to revisit, you can keep a door open
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Dec 30 @ 2:39 PM ET
I think Chicoutimi is hosting, both guys rights are held by WHL teams

EDIT Quebec is hosting, Chicoutimi was a leading bidder, but lost out to the Remparts

- Jsaquella

Demco was just traded to the Hitmen. Eichel is still with the Seadogs I think in the Q unless something happened recently.
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Dec 30 @ 2:39 PM ET
that really pisses me off.

that is my version of why in the world is del zotto constantly scratched.

- stayinthefnnet


Dany Heatley has been awful since leaving San Jose. He got old quick. Remember those years with Alfredsson and Spezza? Good times.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Dec 30 @ 2:40 PM ET
I would like him. What do they have to lose? Nothing.
- NickTheKid87


This is kind of starting to feel a bit like the season that shall not be named.

Niko Dimitrakos 2.0
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Dec 30 @ 2:40 PM ET
I would like him. What do they have to lose? Nothing.
- NickTheKid87


exactly. i dont know why a team hasnt taken a shot.

the pens forwards are an utter joke right now. nah its cool, theyve got it under control with another 31 year old minor league call up.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Dec 30 @ 2:42 PM ET
Dany Heatley has been awful since leaving San Jose. He got old quick. Remember those years with Alfredsson and Spezza? Good times.
- NickTheKid87


oh yeah. its crazy how when some guys go, they are simply just ash.

but (frank) heatley, i dont want him.

but there is no reason for the pens to not pick magnus up
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Dec 30 @ 2:43 PM ET
He'd be ideal as the LW on the Couturier-Read line.
- Jsaquella


Bah. He's 23, washed up, career over. Done. The fork is stuck and the fat lady has warbled.

There, that helped take the sting out of imagining him with Couts and Read.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Dec 30 @ 2:47 PM ET
This is kind of starting to feel a bit like the season that shall not be named.

Niko Dimitrakos 2.0

- flyer_nutter


We don't have any players with an odd, completely unhealable foot injury.

That's one big difference right there.


MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 30 @ 2:47 PM ET
Revenue Profit. That's where a declining Canadian dollar could impact the NHL.
- wolfhounds



Of course it could. Profit can affect teams internal budgets, and how much money they have to spend on players. Some of the Canadien teams are pretty well off. In the context of the conversation on the future of the Cap, profit has zero to do with setting the upper limit for the 15/16 season. It's based on revenue, not profit.
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Dec 30 @ 2:48 PM ET
oh yeah. its crazy how when some guys go, they are simply just ash.

but (frank) heatley, i dont want him.

but there is no reason for the pens to not pick magnus up

- stayinthefnnet


The Pens are dying over there. Crosby has 5 points in his last 11 games and he's well below his career average in points per game. What I've heard is that it's mostly just bad luck for him and he's due to pick it up any game now.
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