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dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Dec 30 @ 7:49 PM ET
I know because you all are now NFL Gm's too.
- BuffaloHardHat



Nope

Just makes zero sense for San Fran to even think of moving him. If he's everything you say he is then he's a franchise 27 yr old qb. You don't move them.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Dec 30 @ 7:50 PM ET
Honestly, only realistic options are

Bradford
Sanchez
McCown
Manuel
Hoyer
2nd rounder
BuffaloHardHat
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I became insane, with long intervals of horrible sanity., NY
Joined: 11.27.2012

Dec 30 @ 7:50 PM ET
At the risk of the defense as it's the only thing of value they'd be interested in and the Bills wouldn't be interested IMO.
- dadeadhead

The Bills still have draft picks also.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Dec 30 @ 7:52 PM ET
The Bills still have draft picks also.
- BuffaloHardHat



Picks they need to fill out the roster.

A 2nd rd pick isn't gonna get you Kap and I highly doubt they'd be looking to move their 2016 1st.
BuffaloHardHat
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I became insane, with long intervals of horrible sanity., NY
Joined: 11.27.2012

Dec 30 @ 7:55 PM ET
Nope

Just makes zero sense for San Fran to even think of moving him. If he's everything you say he is then he's a franchise 27 yr old qb. You don't move them.

- dadeadhead

Everything I say he is?

His game and his NFL history speaks for itself I don't need to speak for him.

Zero sense?

No one ever thought that Wayne Gretzky would ever be on 4 NHL teams either.
BuffaloHardHat
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I became insane, with long intervals of horrible sanity., NY
Joined: 11.27.2012

Dec 30 @ 7:57 PM ET
Picks they need to fill out the roster.

A 2nd rd pick isn't gonna get you Kap and I highly doubt they'd be looking to move their 2016 1st.

- dadeadhead

Never said a 2nd round pick was going to get you Colin Kaepernick.

I am not sure which part of the word creative you don't understand?
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Dec 30 @ 7:59 PM ET
Everything I say he is?

His game and his NFL history speaks for itself I don't need to speak for him.

Zero sense?

No one ever thought that Wayne Gretzky would ever be on 4 NHL teams either.

- BuffaloHardHat



Gretzky had a hand in him being dealt.......Twice.


Without that defense Kap has no history. Much like Wilson in Seattle.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Dec 30 @ 8:02 PM ET
Never said a 2nd round pick was going to get you Colin Kapernick.

I am not sure which part of the word creative you don't understand?

- BuffaloHardHat


It's more the likes of moving Kiko (not gonna happen) Watkins (def not gonna happen) and packaging 2nd and 3rd round picks.

For San Fran to even think of moving Kap they would have to get a return that would tear apart the only real caliber unit we have which is our front 7 on D. You do that and you're asking a QB who just came off a really bad season to take control of this team learn the playbook and win without a top 5 D (he had a top 5 D in San Fran the two years they were anything good). I just don't think he is the guy.

Bradford makes the most sense. A healthy Chris Williams will help at guard and you draft one (or 2) and go from there.

I agree the time is now to win. Bradford (if healthy) is an upgrade over Orton and Manuel which I think any upgrade at the QB position and the Bills are in the playoffs right now.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Dec 30 @ 8:02 PM ET
Never said a 2nd round pick was going to get you Colin Kaepernick.

I am not sure which part of the word creative you don't understand?

- BuffaloHardHat



Dk what part of gutting the defense to be creative to get your God you don't understand? One step forward, two steps back.

Maximum Signal
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.11.2008

Dec 30 @ 8:05 PM ET
Everything I say he is?

His game and his NFL history speaks for itself I don't need to speak for him.

Zero sense?

No one ever thought that Wayne Gretzky would ever be on 4 NHL teams either.

- BuffaloHardHat

The first team Gretzky was traded from had an owner that was nuts and needed the money ( 15 Million ) or he probably would have retired an oiler
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Dec 30 @ 8:06 PM ET
Just stop .
Please just stop.
Save your BS for your drunk patrons.

- BuffaloHardHat



My BS?



That's all you have pal.
BuffaloHardHat
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I became insane, with long intervals of horrible sanity., NY
Joined: 11.27.2012

Dec 30 @ 8:07 PM ET
It's more the likes of moving Kiko (not gonna happen) Watkins (def not gonna happen) and packaging 2nd and 3rd round picks.

For San Fran to even think of moving Kap they would have to get a return that would tear apart the only real caliber unit we have which is our front 7 on D. You do that and you're asking a QB who just came off a really bad season to take control of this team learn the playbook and win without a top 5 D (he had a top 5 D in San Fran the two years they were anything good). I just don't think he is the guy.

Bradford makes the most sense. A healthy Chris Williams will help at guard and you draft one (or 2) and go from there.

I agree the time is now to win. Bradford (if healthy) is an upgrade over Orton and Manuel which I think any upgrade at the QB position and the Bills are in the playoffs right now.

- Stripes77

Porcelain Bradford.

Sorry not my idea of a blood and guts QB that is going to take this team where it should have been this year is certainly not Bradford.

I don't want a little girl quarterbacking my football team nor should he be when he has never even had over a 500 record.

I'll pass on the porcelain thanks very much.
Maximum Signal
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Buffalo Sabres
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Dec 30 @ 8:08 PM ET
Never said a 2nd round pick was going to get you Colin Kaepernick.

I am not sure which part of the word creative you don't understand?

- BuffaloHardHat


Creative ? Break up the defense that makes this team a contender? C'mon HardHat Be realistic . We are not that deep that we can afford to be creative to get this dream QB . We have to be innovative and get a good qb that is not going to cost us our key pieces we have in place.
BuffaloHardHat
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I became insane, with long intervals of horrible sanity., NY
Joined: 11.27.2012

Dec 30 @ 8:09 PM ET
My BS?



That's all you have pal.

- dadeadhead

Not your pal bartender.

Maximum Signal
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 07.11.2008

Dec 30 @ 8:09 PM ET
My BS?



That's all you have pal.

- dadeadhead


Ya Tarbender . You heard him.


Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Dec 30 @ 8:09 PM ET
Just stop .
Please just stop.
Save your BS for your drunk patrons.

- BuffaloHardHat


Golly
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Dec 30 @ 8:09 PM ET
Porcelain Bradford.

Sorry not my idea of a blood and guts QB that is going to take this team where it should have been this year is certainly not Bradford.

I don't want a little girl quarterbacking my football team nor should he be when he has never even had over a 500 record.

I'll pass on the porcelain thanks very much.

- BuffaloHardHat


I can agree to him being porcelain like. However he has never played on a team that had a good defense and he put up pretty good numbers when healthy. It's the low risk high reward play. I don't want to tear apart the only thing that got us to 9 wins to take a run at a QB that hasn't shown he can carry a team by himself. In fact there are only a handful of guys that have shown they can do that and Kap is not one of them.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Dec 30 @ 8:09 PM ET
Creative ? Break up the defense that makes this team a contender? C'mon HardHat Be realistic . We are not that deep that we can afford to be creative to get this dream QB . We have to be innovative and get a good qb that is not going to cost us our key pieces we have in place.
- Maximum Signal



Bingo.

In what should be common ground.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
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Dec 30 @ 8:10 PM ET
Not your pal bartender.
- BuffaloHardHat

Golly golly
Maximum Signal
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Buffalo Sabres
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Dec 30 @ 8:12 PM ET
Bingo.

In what should be common ground.

- dadeadhead


I agree with you on the whole . Just a frail Bradford scares me behind our questionable O-Line.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Dec 30 @ 8:13 PM ET
I can agree to him being porcelain like. However he has never played on a team that had a good defense and he put up pretty good numbers when healthy. It's the low risk high reward play. I don't want to tear apart the only thing that got us to 9 wins to take a run at a QB that hasn't shown he can carry a team by himself. In fact there are only a handful of guys that have shown they can do that and Kap is not one of them.
- Stripes77

There is a chance Mark Sanchez is this teams QB next year
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Dec 30 @ 8:13 PM ET
That took longer than I expected.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Dec 30 @ 8:14 PM ET
That took longer than I expected.
- jochfr

Whoa!
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Dec 30 @ 8:15 PM ET
Anyone see the movie The Equalizer? I'm fittin' to watch that female dog now. I'm guessing the good guy wins.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Dec 30 @ 8:15 PM ET
I agree with you on the whole . Just a frail Bradford scares me behind our questionable O-Line.
- Maximum Signal



Scares me too.


Just thinking of realistic options.
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