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buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Dec 31 @ 10:29 AM ET
Sooo..Myers is a bottom pairing guy on one of the worst teams in hockey??


- stashu



I think the implication is more that Myers won't be here when all is said and done, and that he'll be traded for a top line winger.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Dec 31 @ 10:29 AM ET
Sooo..Myers is a bottom pairing guy on one of the worst teams in hockey??


- stashu

never said that


myers is a few years older then the 4 players I mentions (3 of which were first rd picks)
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Dec 31 @ 10:30 AM ET
Sooo..Myers is a bottom pairing guy on one of the worst teams in hockey??


- stashu


I don't include Myers in the "young" group. I realize he's not an old man, but he is in comparison to many of the others. When I read young or say young, it's with the assumption that the player doesn't already have 5 seasons with the team.
theblueandgold
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Denzel, WA
Joined: 03.05.2009

Dec 31 @ 10:31 AM ET
Of our last 11 W's dating back to the St. Denzel's Day Massacre over Toronto, 8 of them have been against backup goaltenders. We have another backup AHL goalie tonight (albeit a better one, but still)...BUF is 8-2 against backups, and 3-6 against starters during that stretch.

Other teams GM's and coaches are countering our Panzer with nuclear bombs
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Dec 31 @ 10:34 AM ET
never said that


myers is a few years older then the 4 players I mentions (3 of which were first rd picks)

- homiedclown


I get that he's older, and if he was on a shorter contract I could see leaving him off, but with the age d-men play til, he's still quite young.

Just found it interesting that you'd limit the "building around" to only the young guys, especially since you don't know what you have to build around.

And this isn't an argument as "Myers is a #1!!!!", so here's hoping that fight doesn't break out here.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Dec 31 @ 10:34 AM ET
I get that he's older, and if he was on a shorter contract I could see leaving him off, but with the age d-men play til, he's still quite young.

Just found it interesting that you'd limit the "building around" to only the young guys, especially since you don't know what you have to build around.

And this isn't an argument as "Myers is a #1!!!!", so here's hoping that fight doesn't break out here.

- stashu



Too late!

"Myers is average".
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Dec 31 @ 10:34 AM ET
Of our last 11 W's dating back to the St. Denzel's Day Massacre over Toronto, 8 of them have been against backup goaltenders. We have another backup AHL goalie tonight (albeit a better one, but still)...BUF is 8-2 against backups, and 3-6 against starters during that stretch.

Other teams GM's and coaches are countering our Panzer with nuclear bombs

- theblueandgold


When this team was "good", they couldn't beat backups. Now that they suck, they're doing so....ugh
theblueandgold
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Denzel, WA
Joined: 03.05.2009

Dec 31 @ 10:35 AM ET
I get that he's older, and if he was on a shorter contract I could see leaving him off, but with the age d-men play til, he's still quite young.

Just found it interesting that you'd limit the "building around" to only the young guys, especially since you don't know what you have to build around.

And this isn't an argument as "Myers is a #1!!!!", so here's hoping that fight doesn't break out here.

- stashu


But Myers IS a #1
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Dec 31 @ 10:35 AM ET
Wow, Jhonas is a "beast" when facing shots in the 20-30 feet range compared to Miller.

.921 vs .881

Miller has him beat within 10 feet though, .838 vs .750

Fun stuff
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Dec 31 @ 10:39 AM ET
But Myers IS a #1
- theblueandgold

Oh my
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Dec 31 @ 10:40 AM ET
Wow, Jhonas is a "beast" when facing shots in the 20-30 feet range compared to Miller.

.921 vs .881

Miller has him beat within 10 feet though, .838 vs .750

Fun stuff

- stashu

Last few games Miller has been pounded with shots and is all of the sudden on fire again.

I really think he has to be under duress to be on the top of his game. Enroth might be similar in that regard
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Dec 31 @ 10:43 AM ET
Last few games Miller has been pounded with shots and is all of the sudden on fire again.

I really think he has to be under duress to be on the top of his game. Enroth might be similar in that regard

- sbroads24



There are actually a lot of goaltenders that need to be "overworked" in order to be at their best.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Dec 31 @ 10:47 AM ET
There are actually a lot of goaltenders that need to be "overworked" in order to be at their best.
- buffalofan19

With Lindy Ruff's style, and the overall lack of talent the last few years when he was here, that has been Miller's career. Wonder if he is just accustomed to it
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Dec 31 @ 10:56 AM ET
Last few games Miller has been pounded with shots and is all of the sudden on fire again.

I really think he has to be under duress to be on the top of his game. Enroth might be similar in that regard

- sbroads24

I have noticed that
theblueandgold
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Denzel, WA
Joined: 03.05.2009

Dec 31 @ 10:58 AM ET
With Lindy Ruff's style, and the overall lack of talent the last few years when he was here, that has been Miller's career. Wonder if he is just accustomed to it
- sbroads24


Miller's at his best when hes aggressive and can trust his defense. When the defense takes hits due to injuries (which I believe is/was Vancouver's problem) and you get guys not normally in the lineup, Miller starts to overplay things and not trust his guys. Causes him to give up uncharacteristic goals (aka "softies").

Enroth has been lucky to be giving up 3 goals a game and getting by with W's lately. As I mentioned earlier, you can thank other coaches for playing their backups against us.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Dec 31 @ 10:59 AM ET
Too late!

"Myers is average".

- buffalofan19

If this team had average special teams play, they would be a fringe playoff team

how much of this lack of production on talent, and how much is it on coaching?

I say this because they have 3 competent guys up front for pk
a few players that can kind of put the puck in the net up front
gorges for the pk
myers for the pp


not a myers rant either so do not go there
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Dec 31 @ 11:00 AM ET
. As I mentioned earlier, you can thank other coaches for playing their backups against us.
- theblueandgold

kings played quick last night vs the oilers and lost
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Dec 31 @ 11:02 AM ET
There are actually a lot of goaltenders that need to be "overworked" in order to be at their best.
- buffalofan19

Just like I am at my job.

theblueandgold
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Denzel, WA
Joined: 03.05.2009

Dec 31 @ 11:03 AM ET
kings played quick last night vs the oilers and lost
- homiedclown


We beat Quick too....
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Dec 31 @ 11:04 AM ET
Miller's at his best when hes aggressive and can trust his defense. When the defense takes hits due to injuries (which I believe is/was Vancouver's problem) and you get guys not normally in the lineup, Miller starts to overplay things and not trust his guys. Causes him to give up uncharacteristic goals (aka "softies").

Enroth has been lucky to be giving up 3 goals a game and getting by with W's lately. As I mentioned earlier, you can thank other coaches for playing their backups against us.

- theblueandgold



Golly
yen6d1
Buffalo Sabres
Location: maxim Afinogenov, NY
Joined: 02.21.2011

Dec 31 @ 11:10 AM ET
myers>weber>suter
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Dec 31 @ 11:12 AM ET
If this team had average special teams play, they would be a fringe playoff team

how much of this lack of production on talent, and how much is it on coaching?

I say this because they have 3 competent guys up front for pk
a few players that can kind of put the puck in the net up front
gorges for the pk
myers for the pp


not a myers rant either so do not go there

- homiedclown

We need a better shot differential
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Dec 31 @ 11:21 AM ET
so are the drew rumors true or just bullpoop
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Dec 31 @ 11:24 AM ET
so are the drew rumors true or just bullpoop
- gerbe75pts



Bullpoop. Stafford will be a Sabre forever.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Dec 31 @ 11:25 AM ET
just trade myers already get a top 10 pick take Marner..

then in 3 years we can watch myers score the game wining goal vs us in the stanley cup..

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