It looks like a ginger jewfro.
- Yosimar89

Wow so they're really not calling anything. Can't say the refs haven't set the table for themselves here.

Apparently, Canada doesn't like it when the other team can pish back. Not sure why they were upset with McDavid interfering with a player to cause an offside.

Canadians being stupid, punish them.

Yea, when the screen name indicates your devotion to a team.
- jmatchett383

Good thing I didn't select "FraudeGiroux" or "GrossmannForNorris" then

Apparently, Canada doesn't like it when the other team can pish back. Not sure why they were upset with McDavid interfering with a player to cause an offside.
- jmatchett383

Yeah totally a penalty on McDavid not called.

Ha, annoucers just brought up the skirmish a few years back with JVR in the middle. Ill always remember him getter punched in the face and doing nothing about it

Alex Tuch is terrible unless he gets a great feed 4 feet from the goal line.

Yeah totally a penalty on McDavid not called.
- Pixote Andolini

the chosen one can do no wrong.

What I am saying is this: Is this Hextall's team? Does he feel hamstrung by certain salaries? Is he unable to make deals because of term to certain players?

Most importantly, to me: How long before something gets done, things get done, that need to happen to move this franchise forward?

It is ridiculous to me that they have the roster they do, with the salary commitments they have, aren't winning, and not a trade or demotion has taken place.

It's easy to look at old players like VLC and Umberger, who deserve criticism but are also past their primes. They should not bear the sole responsibility for what this team is currently.

I am sick of watching defensemen who can't pass and can barely skate. Forwards who can't receive passes. Players who can't figure out how to consistently kill penalties.

At some point, you are better off trying young players or different players, rather than just running the same guys out there and expecting different results.

Derek Roy, Dany Heatley, etc., were big names in the league once. Victor Stalberg's been waived and demoted. Magnus Paajarvi was a top-10 pick. He's been waived and demoted.

Other teams are discarding players who don't help,them win. It's time for the Flyers to start getting guys off the roster, not scratching them.
- AllInForFlyers

Make a list of players that the Flyers should be getting off of their roster, and who should replace them. That wi'll give an idea of where they stand.

DeAngelo has a voice fit for the radio

Make a list of players that the Flyers should be getting off of their roster, and who should replace them. That wi'll give an idea of where they stand.
- MJL

Make a list of players who should stay, and we'll compare lists.

Alex Tuch is terrible unless he gets a great feed 4 feet from the goal line.
- jmatchett383

Really? He's been pretty active all game long, IMO.

They need to start with Luke Schenn. Not because he is a scapegoat. Not because he doesn't try hard.

But because he isn't good enough to hold down his position in the lineup, scratching him does no good, and he needs to go down to the "A" and work on his game in an environment that doesn't cost the Flyers anything.

Could he get claimed, if you try to send him down? Sure. But who the hell cares? He's a No. 6 defenseman making $3.5 million! You have to ignore his name and who he was traded for and either trade him or hope he gets claimed, because his salary is not commensurate with what he is currently doing.
- AllInForFlyers

Flyers aren't going to send Schenn down the AHL. Playing against lesser competition and being the big man on campus isn't going to do him any good. And if he did get claimed, they've now just given away a tradeable asset for zero return. That would be very poor player management.

Wow so Craig MacTavish being interviewed on his scouting of either Jack or Mac. Does that franchise have any shame at all?

Flyers aren't going to send Schenn down the AHL. Playing against lesser competition and being the big man on campus isn't going to do him any good. And if he did get claimed, they've now just given away a tradeable asset for zero return. That would be very poor player management.
- MJL

Kinda like sending Magnus Paarjavi down, huh? Poor player management, indeed.

Having Schenn be a healthy scratch is better player management...how?

Exactly -- these are the tough decisions that I want to see Hextall make. Carlo Coliacovo is just sitting there. You can play him, and the Flyers don't have to bring up a young player who might not be ready.

But it's time to address stuff like Luke Schenn, whether it be trade or demotion.
- AllInForFlyers

The time to address the situation with Luke Schenn is at the trade deadline, or during the off season around the draft if they decide to move Schenn. The market will be more defined then. Don't see the need right now, to make that move. It would be foolish to send him through waivers now. Colaiacovo is sitting there for a reason.

Kinda like sending Magnus Paarjavi down, huh? Poor player management, indeed.

Having Schenn be a healthy scratch is better player management...how?
- AllInForFlyers

Did they lose Paajarvi for nothing, with no return, because that's what I labeled as potentially being poor player management.

How is sitting Luke Schenn one game poor player management? The Flyers have 8 defenseman, and Del Zotto eventually needs to play again at some point.

There is zero to gain by sending Schenn through waivers, and demoting him at this point.

Kinda like sending Magnus Paarjavi down, huh? Poor player management, indeed.

Having Schenn be a healthy scratch is better player management...how?
- AllInForFlyers

still have 0 idea why he wasnt (frank)ing claimed.

instead mario continues to fulfill charitable obligations of allowing fringe NCAA players and 30 year old minor leaguers the opportunity to skate on a line with crosby and malkin.

i do see your point though.

The time to address the situation with Luke Schenn is at the trade deadline, or during the off season around the draft if they decide to move Schenn. The market will be more defined then. Don't see the need right now, to make that move. It would be foolish to send him through waivers now. Colaiacovo is sitting there for a reason.
- MJL

There's no defined moment when it's time to address anything. There's no more or less reason to keep Schenn than there is for any other team to make the moves they make.

Just because you wouldn't do it now doesn't make it foolish, just like if Hextall waived him tomorrow or Saturday wouldn't make it rocket science. You do stuff during the league year, whenever you feel like it

Did they lose Paajarvi for nothing, with no return, because that's what I labeled as potentially being poor player management.

How is sitting Luke Schenn one game poor player management? The Flyers have 8 defenseman, and Del Zotto eventually needs to play again at some point.

There is zero to gain by sending Schenn through waivers, and demoting him at this point.
- MJL

i think its just more a notion of when is enough to finally just cut bait. regardless of name, draft pick, cost of acquisition, potential, or whatever.

right now, luke schenn is a number 6 defenseman making 3.5 mil. not exactly scuderi awful, but still. that type of asset is more on the problem side of the scale than the solution.

i think its just more a notion of when is enough to finally just cut bait. regardless of name, draft pick, cost of acquisition, potential, or whatever.

right now, luke schenn is a number 6 defenseman making 3.5 mil. not exactly scuderi awful, but still. that type of asset is more on the problem side of the scale than the solution.
- stayinthefnnet

Exactly -- but trust me, now we are going to have it explained how having that salary commitment is actually great for a player who has been scratched for each of the last two seasons and how,the Flyers can't live without him

Make a list of players who should stay, and we'll compare lists.
- AllInForFlyers

Right now, I'm not looking to make any foolish moves, and rash decisions based on overreactions. Luke Schenn is sitting a game, and Del Zotto is playing tonight. That's good because I like everyone else wants to see Del Zotto get another shot and some playing time. That is all that is happening. The Flyers have 8 defenseman on the roster. There is competition for playing time between Schenn and Del Zotto. Schenn played a string of games, not maybe if Del Zotto plays well, he'll get a string of games. I don't see what the problem is here.

A few players were waived by other teams for numerous reasons, now all of sudden Hextall has to follow suit and do the same?

Exactly -- but trust me, now we are going to have it explained how having that salary commitment is actually great for a player who has been scratched for each of the last two seasons and how,the Flyers can't live without him
- AllInForFlyers

well, myself and MJL just disagree on the evaluation of luke schenn has a player. i dont see him as someone who is going to get better, so i would be much more inclined to just get rid of him.

There's no defined moment when it's time to address anything. There's no more or less reason to keep Schenn than there is for any other team to make the moves they make.

Just because you wouldn't do it now doesn't make it foolish, just like if Hextall waived him tomorrow or Saturday wouldn't make it rocket science. You do stuff during the league year, whenever you feel like it
- AllInForFlyers

Apparently there is a defined moment because your post suggested addressing something when there isn't a defined legitimate reason to do it. Teams do stuff during the year, not just whenever they feel like it, but when there is reasoning behind it.