The only reasoning I can think of is Raffl's been suffering a drop-off of his own. This is probably just a change of pace thing for Berube.
- tangent_man

They have to somehow get Read going offensively. He has to be squeezing that stick tight.

Hire Stevens.
- 77rams

FIRE CARTER.

The only reasoning I can think of is Raffl's been suffering a drop-off of his own. This is probably just a change of pace thing for Berube.
- tangent_man

I'm fine with it. I would have broken up Read and Couts a while ago actually. I've wanted him to spread the offensive/defensive talent throughout the lineup. It would help balance zone starts and QoC imo.

They have to somehow get Read going offensively. He has to be squeezing that stick tight.
- MJL

banned

They have to somehow get Read going offensively. He has to be squeezing that stick tight.
- MJL

Have to increase his trade value.

I'm fine with it. I would have broken up Read and Couts a while ago actually. I've wanted him to spread the offensive/defensive talent throughout the lineup. It would help balance zone starts and QoC imo.
- PhillySportsGuy

Gotta try something at this point.

Hell, if Vinny and Umberger can start scoring goals again, there's hope for everybody.

Gotta try something at this point.

Hell, if Vinny and Umberger can start scoring goals again, there's hope for everybody.
- tangent_man

There is no hope. All is lost

They have to somehow get Read going offensively. He has to be squeezing that stick tight.
- MJL

He's squeezing something, but I doubt anyone's getting any joy.

There is no hope. All is lost
- PhillySportsGuy

I've heard the rumors. Doesn't mean they should stop trying.

- Tomahawk

this is like my favorite hangout at least on the internet... luv you guys ... its always a gas

I'm fine with it. I would have broken up Read and Couts a while ago actually. I've wanted him to spread the offensive/defensive talent throughout the lineup. It would help balance zone starts and QoC imo.
- PhillySportsGuy

how would you do that? dismember voracek and giroux and graft random limbs onto other players?

banned
- PhillySportsGuy

are u trying to start an argument?

how would you do that? dismember voracek and giroux and graft random limbs onto other players?
- Doc_Sarcasm

Raffl-G-Jake
Schenn-Laughts-Read
PEB-Couts-Simmonds
VDV-VL-Umberger

i think they should move read to the laughton line, schenn up to first line, raffle to couts line.

are u trying to start an argument?
- JoeRussomanno

No, not now. I normally instigate at the beginning of the day then leave and check back later to see the damage done.

Raffl-G-Jake
Schenn-Laughts-Read
PEB-Couts-Simmonds
VDV-VL-Umberger
- PhillySportsGuy

yea thats cool too

Raffl-G-Jake
Schenn-Laughts-Read
PEB-Couts-Simmonds
VDV-VL-Umberger
- PhillySportsGuy

You know, in all honesty I don't see why that would work any worse than what has gone before it.

Now, if only coach saw the Umburglar as a 4th line player.

yea thats cool too
- JoeRussomanno

Spreads the two-way forwards throughout the lineup.

No, not now. I normally instigate at the beginning of the day then leave and check back later to see the damage done.
- PhillySportsGuy

we'll split up the week, okay? You take lymphoma, and tuberculosis...

You know, in all honesty I don't see why that would work any worse than what has gone before it.

Now, if only coach saw the Umburglar as a 4th line player.
- Doc_Sarcasm

I know. I just don't believe VL or Umberger are capable of keeping up with other team's top 9 forwards. They need to be sheltered. It's much easier sheltering them on the 4th line.

VL has played his best hockey on the 4th line. I know he hates it, but thats the truth. It's been that way for 2 years now. It's the only time he's been even moderately effective. I don't see why they would change something that's been proven for 1.5 years now.

I know. I just don't believe VL or Umberger are capable of keeping up with other team's top 9 forwards. They need to be sheltered. It's much easier sheltering them on the 4th line.

VL has played his best hockey on the 4th line. I know he hates it, but thats the truth. It's been that way for 2 years now. It's the only time he's been even moderately effective. I don't see why they would change something that's been proven for 1.5 years now.
- PhillySportsGuy

He is a very effective fourth-liner. Not a crime, at his age

He is a very effective fourth-liner. Not a crime, at his age
- AllInForFlyers

It is what it is. A full season on the 4th line and 2nd PP unit would likely result in 15-20 goals. That might be enough to help facilitate a trade.

They have to somehow get Read going offensively. He has to be squeezing that stick tight.
- MJL

This isnt the way to get him going I think. Hes looked bad with them before when he was playing well

The only reasoning I can think of is Raffl's been suffering a drop-off of his own. This is probably just a change of pace thing for Berube.
- tangent_man

No doubt. Certainly worth a try

He's squeezing something, but I doubt anyone's getting any joy.
- tangent_man