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ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jan 2 @ 6:58 PM ET
From what I read, it's Kelly vs. Roseman, with Gamble taking the bullets for his boy -- and then the Eagles realizing that Kelly could/would walk
- AllInForFlyers


He couldn't walk he has a large buyout to pay if he went to another NFL team. But I believe there was a much smaller one if he went back to the NCAA.

They weren't going to give up what Kelly wanted without some level of protection
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 2 @ 7:00 PM ET
With his show-cause over, the Birds probably figured out pretty damn quick that they needed to tread lightly, once they caught wind that something was on fire
- AllInForFlyers


I just found it funny how public the power struggle was and how quickly it went from reporters saying it's 50-50 that Kelly would leave to him becoming the Supreme Commander
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jan 2 @ 7:01 PM ET
Another ridiculous lopsided trade by the Pens.

Been clammering for the Flyers to acquire Perron... sigh

- MrBigglesworth


I disagee. The Flyers first round pick is going to be a lot higher than the Penguins.

Perron isn't that good of a player. He's a UFA after next season as well. Adding Perron to a contending team isn't a bad move, a rebuilding team adding him doesn't make much sense.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jan 2 @ 7:02 PM ET
He couldn't walk he has a large buyout to pay if he went to another NFL team. But I believe there was a much smaller one if he went back to the NCAA.

They weren't going to give up what Kelly wanted without some level of protection

- ob18


Absolutely -- I think they were thinking he'd go back to college
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 2 @ 7:02 PM ET
I disagee. The Flyers first round pick is going to be a lot higher than the Penguins.

Perron isn't that good of a player. He's a UFA after next season as well. Adding Perron to a contending team isn't a bad move, a rebuilding team adding him doesn't make much sense.

- PLindbergh31


Yeah, there's no way you trade a top ten pick in this draft for David Perron...and I like David Perron a ton.

It's a fair deal. Oilers traded a key, top six guy and the Penguins pick will still see some really good prospects available. The Pens are gunning for a Cup. The Flyers should be scouting juniors.
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Jan 2 @ 7:03 PM ET
was really hoping to see more from the Americans today, penalties aside. and the Finns lost as well. i think i may start rooting for teams i don't like and see if it works.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jan 2 @ 7:04 PM ET
I just found it funny how public the power struggle was and how quickly it went from reporters saying it's 50-50 that Kelly would leave to him becoming the Supreme Commander
- Jsaquella


Ever since Banner/Modrak/Reid, as well as the ascension of Howie, the Birds have never been able to keep their knife-fights in-house, have they?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 2 @ 7:05 PM ET
Ever since Banner/Modrak/Reid, as well as the ascension of Howie, the Birds have never been able to keep their knife-fights in-house, have they?
- AllInForFlyers


No, they haven't. This goes back to the Braman or even Tose years, though. Always drama.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Jan 2 @ 7:06 PM ET
Question: If the Flyers go into FA and Marc Staal was available and we have the space available, should we attempt to sign him?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 2 @ 7:06 PM ET
Question: If the Flyers go into FA and Marc Staal is available and we have the space available, should we attempt to sign him?
- xShoot4WarAmpsx


Good player, probably not worth what it'd take to sign him.
MrBigglesworth
Location: PA
Joined: 01.30.2008

Jan 2 @ 7:06 PM ET
It would've been an awful move for the Flyers to give up a first round pick for Perron. He simply isn't that good.
- MJL


thats just like your opinion, man!

I never said we should have traded our 1st rounder for Perron.. I think we could have traded players for players with the Oil.

Perron is absolutely worth a late 1st rounder plus an undrafted 4th liner.
The guy will be a ppg player on the Pens.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 2 @ 7:07 PM ET
my liver is super human
- BiggE


Keep telling yourself that.

Which room do you keep the Will in again?
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jan 2 @ 7:08 PM ET
Yeah, there's no way you trade a top ten pick in this draft for David Perron...and I like David Perron a ton.

It's a fair deal. Oilers traded a key, top six guy and the Penguins pick will still see some really good prospects available. The Pens are gunning for a Cup. The Flyers should be scouting juniors.

- Jsaquella


I'm sure there will be a spike to Perron's numbers in Pittsburgh. I bet their plan is to put him on Crosby's line. He can be a good player, I view him as a 50-60 guy. He also plays LW and position the Flyers are severely lacking. If he could have been acquired for some sort of package that included Coburn I wouldn't be opposed to it. Flyers would have been fools to trade their first rounder to Edmonton.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jan 2 @ 7:11 PM ET
I'm sure there will be a spike to Perron's numbers in Pittsburgh. I bet their plan is to put him on Crosby's line. He can be a good player, I view him as a 50-60 guy. He also plays LW and position the Flyers are severely lacking. If he could have been acquired for some sort of package that included Coburn I wouldn't be opposed to it. Flyers would have been fools to trade their first rounder to Edmonton.
- PLindbergh31


Can't move that first-rounder unless a no-poop top pair defender, under 27 years old, is coming back.

I'm not saying I'd never trade it. I'm just saying there's maybe, what, 5 guys or so for who I would
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jan 2 @ 7:11 PM ET
2-0 with 5 left!!!!!

A trip to the semi finals. The little engine that could keeps chugging.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Jan 2 @ 7:12 PM ET
Good player, probably not worth what it'd take to sign him.
- Jsaquella


Always the possibility he'd sign at a lower rate for guaranteed 1st pair mins. Looking at cap geek. If we bought out Vinny and Umberger that would give us 11+ mill in cap space after Pronger's LTIR. If we managed to rid ourselves of both without buyout we could have close to 15 Mill. That is also assuming the D is the same as well.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jan 2 @ 7:14 PM ET
No, they haven't. This goes back to the Braman or even Tose years, though. Always drama.
- Jsaquella


Tose days at least were funny

Sir, you have 20

So? Hit me!

Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jan 2 @ 7:15 PM ET
Question: If the Flyers go into FA and Marc Staal was available and we have the space available, should we attempt to sign him?
- xShoot4WarAmpsx


Pass.

It would be fun to weaken the Rags, but Staal is a slightly better version of Coburn, not the 1-2 guy they desperately need.
Yosimar89
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 05.11.2010

Jan 2 @ 7:17 PM ET
2-0 with 5 left!!!!!

A trip to the semi finals. The little engine that could keeps chugging.

- flyer_nutter

Canada got a really good draw here, denmark, slovakia to reach the finals. Meanwhile if Russia makes it to the final, they would've gone through US, Sweden while the Swedes would've gone through Finland, Russia.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 2 @ 7:17 PM ET
Tose days at least were funny

Sir, you have 20

So? Hit me!


- BiggE



How the Hell did he not manage to lose the team to a Vegas cocktail waitress is beyond me
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jan 2 @ 7:18 PM ET
Can't move that first-rounder unless a no-poop top pair defender, under 27 years old, is coming back.

I'm not saying I'd never trade it. I'm just saying there's maybe, what, 5 guys or so for who I would

- AllInForFlyers


I agree that there would have to be a stud dman coming back. I think I would have more than 5 guys I would be willing to deal the pick for. If it was assured the pick would be in the top 3 maybe only a handful of guys I'd trade it for. More likely its outside the top 5.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jan 2 @ 7:18 PM ET
This game is (frank)ing boring

Yeah, I'm drunk but that don't change the fact that this (frank)ing game is (frank)ing boring
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jan 2 @ 7:19 PM ET


How the Hell did he not manage to lose the team to a Vegas cocktail waitress is beyond me

- Jsaquella


Beats me
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jan 2 @ 7:20 PM ET
I agree that there would have to be a stud dman coming back. I think I would have more than 5 guys I would be willing to deal the pick for. If it was assured the pick would be in the top 3 maybe only a handful of guys I'd trade it for. More likely its outside the top 5.
- PLindbergh31


If it's 3rd-overall, I'd just take Hanifin and feel confident my defensive issues are probably solved.

SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jan 2 @ 7:20 PM ET
A lot of go-go-go early. A lot of hardwork. Both sides look pretty focused.
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