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Ryan Wilson
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 06.13.2013

Jan 3 @ 11:14 AM ET
Ryan Wilson: In-Depth Breakdown of Perron Trade + Sick Kasperi Kapanen Goal In Depth Breakdown of Perron Trade + Sick Kapanen Goal
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Jan 3 @ 11:24 AM ET
drummer829
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.12.2010

Jan 3 @ 11:43 AM ET
I think another trade is on the way. Maybe not now, but if a guy like Perron was a 1st rounder, a guy like pouliot or Harrington could possibly fetch another younger top 6 winger.

My ideal lines
Trade-Sid-horn
Kuni-malkin-Perron
Downie-sutter-Bennett
Comeau-goc-spaling
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jan 3 @ 11:44 AM ET
Ryan Wilson: In-Depth Breakdown of Perron Trade + Sick Kasperi Kapanen Goal
In Depth Breakdown of Perron Trade + Sick Kapanen Goal

- Ryan_Wilson


Great trade for the Pens, decent for the Oilers too. If the Oil can package this pick with something else they should be able to buy themselves another ticket to the lottery.
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jan 3 @ 11:45 AM ET
I think another trade is on the way. Maybe not now, but if a guy like Perron was a 1st rounder, a guy like pouliot or Harrington could possibly fetch another younger top 6 winger.

My ideal lines
Trade-Sid-horn
Kuni-malkin-Perron
Downie-sutter-Bennett
Comeau-goc-spaling

- drummer829


Lupul is available...
joescullz
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 12.07.2013

Jan 3 @ 11:45 AM ET
Glad to see we didn't break the bank for Perron. I still think either Martin or Ehrhoff get dealt for another winger at the deadline.
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Jan 3 @ 11:45 AM ET
Pretty sweet goal by kap. Kid was invisible for the entire tournament besides that. Total ghost.
joescullz
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 12.07.2013

Jan 3 @ 11:47 AM ET
Lupul is available...
- lumlums

I would actually look into the asking price for Lupul. WHEN healthy, he is a pretty good winger. Leafs would have to eat some salary though.
SPIDEROCKSTAR
Location: Ugh.... your sooooo lucky I'm banned... 9 more days and your gonna get it... - HouseArrest187, QC
Joined: 08.08.2010

Jan 3 @ 11:50 AM ET
I just trade Drouin for Perron in my pool.
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jan 3 @ 11:57 AM ET
I would actually look into the asking price for Lupul. WHEN healthy, he is a pretty good winger. Leafs would have to eat some salary though.
- joescullz


Yup, either that or take back a salary dump (Scuderi? Hell he can't be worse than the D we're currently icing). I'm sure something could be worked out, and as a guy who is a fan of Lupul, it'd be nice to see him in a situation where he could challenge.
Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

Jan 3 @ 11:58 AM ET
Its all exciting about Perron and everything, but just give me more Downie and Sid. Downie needs an A on his sweater. Hes the heart of the team. Can't wait to see how many points plus mayhem he causes tonight.
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Jan 3 @ 11:59 AM ET
Yup, either that or take back a salary dump (Scuderi? Hell he can't be worse than the D we're currently icing). I'm sure something could be worked out, and as a guy who is a fan of Lupul, it'd be nice to see him in a situation where he could challenge.
- lumlums

Lupul for Scuderi and a 3rd
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jan 3 @ 12:00 PM ET
Lupul for Scuderi and a 3rd
- rangerdanger94


We'd need more than a third

The key when taking a salary dump is to get something of value back
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Jan 3 @ 12:03 PM ET
I think another trade is on the way. Maybe not now, but if a guy like Perron was a 1st rounder, a guy like pouliot or Harrington could possibly fetch another younger top 6 winger.

My ideal lines
Trade-Sid-horn
Kuni-malkin-Perron
Downie-sutter-Bennett
Comeau-goc-spaling

- drummer829



I don't see a trade "needing" to be made right now. Absolutely, it would do great things for this team to get another top 6 winger, but we have Rust showing great talent, Kapinen looks VERY promising as well for next year... and Dupuis could be back for the end of the season/playoffs.

I've been harping on Kunitz having a better use with Malkin, since Malkin has struggled to find synergy A LOT more than Crosby. This is assuming Perron works with Crosby of course.
This is what I think that lines will look like at the start of the playoffs, with a Dupuis return.

Perron-Crosby-Horny
Kuntzi-Malkin-Comeau/Bennett
Dupuis-Sutter-Bennett
Downie-Goc-Spaling

Comeau and Bennett could swap... but since Comeau is to return in about 6 weeks, I believe he will get to retake his spot on the 2nd line to see if he can keep up the performance from before. If not, he COULD drop down to the 4th line.

Adams in the booth.

No Dupuis... Downie bumps up, Adams up... and whoever you want in the booth.


Don't ask me about Defense... just too much talent and the Martin speculation for me to make even a reasonable guess.
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Jan 3 @ 12:05 PM ET
Yup, either that or take back a salary dump (Scuderi? Hell he can't be worse than the D we're currently icing). I'm sure something could be worked out, and as a guy who is a fan of Lupul, it'd be nice to see him in a situation where he could challenge.
- lumlums



Scuderi has become a "More harm than good" defensmen, and not by a slim margin, but a more than respectable margin. I'd say his value right now, with the Veteran and Stanley Cup presence... is around 2.5-3 million top. And I am NOT a fan of Scuds, but this is a bounce back year and winning two cups is always going to inflate a player's value.
powerhouse
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Columbia , MD
Joined: 11.28.2006

Jan 3 @ 12:06 PM ET

While waiting for my soup to cool I watched Perron's goals. Kind of reminds me os Hornqvist in that he is not afraid to shoot and Malkin or Sid will create room for him to shoot. He is a bit grittier from what I can see than expected which is all the better. Really looks to be a solid trade acquisition.
powerhouse
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Columbia , MD
Joined: 11.28.2006

Jan 3 @ 12:07 PM ET
Scuderi has become a "More harm than good" defensmen, and not by a slim margin, but a more than respectable margin. I'd say his value right now, with the Veteran and Stanley Cup presence... is around 2.5-3 million top. And I am NOT a fan of Scuds, but this is a bounce back year and winning two cups is always going to inflate a player's value.
- Guile


Skuds looked good last night and his passes are improving.
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Jan 3 @ 12:08 PM ET
We'd need more than a third

The key when taking a salary dump is to get something of value back

- lumlums

Lupul is more of a salary dump than a valuable asset himself
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Jan 3 @ 12:10 PM ET
Skuds looked good last night and his passes are improving.
- powerhouse



Yes... but its still 3.375 million for a +7, 5 point defensman...

Last year, 53 games, 4 points and a -8.

Just not that value you want, but hes garnered A LOT less complaints this season. Especially with his grooming of Despres and helping bring in the AHLers as well during the injury plague.

lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jan 3 @ 12:10 PM ET
While waiting for my soup to cool I watched Perron's goals. Kind of reminds me os Hornqvist in that he is not afraid to shoot and Malkin or Sid will create room for him to shoot. He is a bit grittier from what I can see than expected which is all the better. Really looks to be a solid trade acquisition.
- powerhouse


Yeah, he plays bigger than he actually is. It may lead him to get hurt from time to time, but he's a guy with heart (and hands) who you guys will soon love.
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jan 3 @ 12:11 PM ET
Lupul is more of a salary dump than a valuable asset himself
- rangerdanger94


If he's not producing points he's opening up cap space from being on the LTIR, seems like a win-win to me
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Jan 3 @ 12:12 PM ET
If he's not producing points he's opening up cap space from being on the LTIR, seems like a win-win to me
- lumlums

He'll fit right in in Pittsburgh
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Jan 3 @ 12:12 PM ET
We'd need more than a third

The key when taking a salary dump is to get something of value back

- lumlums



Conditional pick for 2016. 2nd if he doesn't get injurred for more than 5 games total from the day of the trade. drops down to a fifth depending on time spent injurred.

You want to roll the dice on the Penguin's injury luck?
Thorny
Location: OH
Joined: 10.15.2011

Jan 3 @ 12:12 PM ET
Scuderi has become a "More harm than good" defensmen, and not by a slim margin, but a more than respectable margin. I'd say his value right now, with the Veteran and Stanley Cup presence... is around 2.5-3 million top. And I am NOT a fan of Scuds, but this is a bounce back year and winning two cups is always going to inflate a player's value.
- Guile



He set the bar so low last year, that his below average play seems to trick many people into thinking he has been average. He hasn't even been that. He puts his partner in soooo many bad situations. I would rather he sit to be honest and play 41 in his place when Martin is back.

58 7
10 41
47 51
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Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jan 3 @ 12:13 PM ET
I wonder... With Rust showing flashes, I wonder if he's the winger that Sutter needs in order to continue production without Beau Bennett. Perhaps, in a world without further trade, we can see

Perron/Crosby/Hornqvist
Kunitz/Malkin/Bennett
(Dupuis?)Comeau/Sutter/Rust
Spaling/Goc/Downie

I'd rather have Downie on the third and keep him and Flats together but I'm not sure he can play left and Rust never once played left in college. IDK, it's just something to try out if we don't trade for a LW for Sutts.
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