For all the folks who fell for Elliotte Friedman's word parsing:



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- hardnosed

Well thats disappointing to hear...

Well thats disappointing to hear...
- Guile

Ive never thought he was more than a one year player for us. I think with the young D showing well, Pens may just decide to keep the pups next year and just get a vet 6th d-man.

Hope I'm wrong though... Would love to see him stick around.

Id still rather extend Martin.

He has the stuff. You guys don't know about the stuff? The stuff that wins stanley cups.
- Grinder47

Is that like Jordan's secret stuff in space jam?

Id still rather extend Martin.
- Grinder47

For the 5 yrs x $5+ million that it would take? No thanks.

I don't know what else the Pens could bring in via trade without sending some salary out. They're up against that cap.

So, no Doumolin and a 4th for Player X type of deals. Likely wont be able to swing it.

My ideal REALISTIC (i.e. assuming no one wants Scuderi) scenario....

1. Ship Spaling out for a pick soon. Dont really care what we get back. Just dump his cap hit. Frees up $1 mill or so.
2. Take the $1.3 mill or so you'd have left on the cap and get another winger. I'm good with anything. Top 6 or a large grinder type for 4th line.
3. Keep Martin for a Cup run.
4. I like the chemistry that Comeau has with Malkin. If they cant get another top 6 guy, I like him on 2nd line with 71. I think you get max value from him there.
5. The more I stare at the lines below, the more I think we need another 4th line guy. Was disappointed they moved Klink. I think that "Trade" 4th line guy needs to be a good player to round things out.

Perron-Sid-Horny
Kunitz-Malkin-Comeau
Downie-Sutter-Bennett
Trade-Goc-Adams/Rust

Id still rather extend Martin.
- Grinder47

I say no to Martin. Ehrhoff maybe if the price is right.

I don't know what else the Pens could bring in via trade without sending some salary out. They're up against that cap.

So, no Doumolin and a 4th for Player X type of deals. Likely wont be able to swing it.

My ideal REALISTIC (i.e. assuming no one wants Scuderi) scenario....

1. Ship Spaling out for a pick soon. Dont really care what we get back. Just dump his cap hit. Frees up $1 mill or so.
2. Take the $1.3 mill or so you'd have left on the cap and get another winger. I'm good with anything. Top 6 or a large grinder type for 4th line.
3. Keep Martin for a Cup run.
4. I like the chemistry that Comeau has with Malkin. If they cant get another top 6 guy, I like him on 2nd line with 71. I think you get max value from him there.
5. The more I stare at the lines below, the more I think we need another 4th line guy. Was disappointed they moved Klink. I think that "Trade" 4th line guy needs to be a good player to round things out.

Perron-Sid-Horny
Kunitz-Malkin-Comeau
Downie-Sutter-Bennett
Trade-Goc-Adams/Rust
- 87_71_11_29

They won't be able to get a 4th liner who is better than Spaling. So why not just keep Spaling and call it good?

Ive never thought he was more than a one year player for us. I think with the young D showing well, Pens may just decide to keep the pups next year and just get a vet 6th d-man.

- 87_71_11_29

He signed a one year deal to showcase himself for his last humongous payday, which is coming this summer. And it won't be from the Penguins.

I don't know what else the Pens could bring in via trade without sending some salary out. They're up against that cap.

So, no Doumolin and a 4th for Player X type of deals. Likely wont be able to swing it.

My ideal REALISTIC (i.e. assuming no one wants Scuderi) scenario....

1. Ship Spaling out for a pick soon. Dont really care what we get back. Just dump his cap hit. Frees up $1 mill or so.
2. Take the $1.3 mill or so you'd have left on the cap and get another winger. I'm good with anything. Top 6 or a large grinder type for 4th line.
3. Keep Martin for a Cup run.
4. I like the chemistry that Comeau has with Malkin. If they cant get another top 6 guy, I like him on 2nd line with 71. I think you get max value from him there.
5. The more I stare at the lines below, the more I think we need another 4th line guy. Was disappointed they moved Klink. I think that "Trade" 4th line guy needs to be a good player to round things out.

Perron-Sid-Horny
Kunitz-Malkin-Comeau
Downie-Sutter-Bennett
Trade-Goc-Adams/Rust
- 87_71_11_29

I think the only move they have left to make is resting on Paul Matin's trade clause. If he is willing to be moved, then something will happen, but as of now I don't see much happening.
Spaling-Goc-Adams will likely anchor that 4th with Rust as the swing man.
I like the first line, but I think Beau will move up to Geno's right wing by seasons end. Then you get a Comeau Sutter Downie third line, which could be great.

Id still rather extend Martin.
- Grinder47

I would "like" to keep Martin too... but Ehrhoff is a better option to keep with what we have coming up. Our youngins have shown they are good and a lot are puck moving Dman, I think that was the final nail in the Martin coffin.

I don't know what else the Pens could bring in via trade without sending some salary out. They're up against that cap.

So, no Doumolin and a 4th for Player X type of deals. Likely wont be able to swing it.

My ideal REALISTIC (i.e. assuming no one wants Scuderi) scenario....

1. Ship Spaling out for a pick soon. Dont really care what we get back. Just dump his cap hit. Frees up $1 mill or so.
2. Take the $1.3 mill or so you'd have left on the cap and get another winger. I'm good with anything. Top 6 or a large grinder type for 4th line.
3. Keep Martin for a Cup run.
4. I like the chemistry that Comeau has with Malkin. If they cant get another top 6 guy, I like him on 2nd line with 71. I think you get max value from him there.
5. The more I stare at the lines below, the more I think we need another 4th line guy. Was disappointed they moved Klink. I think that "Trade" 4th line guy needs to be a good player to round things out.

Perron-Sid-Horny
Kunitz-Malkin-Comeau
Downie-Sutter-Bennett
Trade-Goc-Adams/Rust
- 87_71_11_29

I have nothing against getting rid of Spaling for an equal value at less cost... I just don't see that trade being done in this season. At the draft more likely. However, you want him traded and for a 4th line replacement by the deadline... I simply see ZERO reason or chance to do that. Trade him for a pick straight up... Adams - Goc - Rust 4th line and call it a day. Then see what you can do with that cap space with another trade at the draft or for next season with free agency. You are trying to fine tune way too much when the 4th line is being nitpicked that hard

Downie belongs on the 3rd line, but since we have a shortage of guys who can play LW and an overload of RWs, Downie is one of the easiest guys to bump down. Sorry, I love what Steve has brought to this team and he's played like a real leader, but he is not Sid's RW.
- Victoro311

If Perron plays with Crosby and opens things up the way I think he will, that line could live with Downie on the right side. He's got a lot of skill, and he has a knack for finishing plays. I think if he'd score 25 a year on Sid's right wing with Perron in tow. And he can do a lot of the same things that Hornqvist does. Battle in the corners, forecheck hard, get to the front of the net.

Then you could do Comeau/Martin/Hornqvist and keep the Kunitz/Sutter/Bennett line intact.

All reports show Perron will play with Crosby tonight. I like the fit. He can play left or right (one of the few) so I wouldn't be surprised to see a Perron-Crosby-Downie line.

I like the first line, but I think Beau will move up to Geno's right wing by seasons end.
- usethe1-2-2

If there's one thing that we know about HCMJ, that he has shown a persistent commitment to, it's playing Sutter and Bennett together.

Oh... and ANY update regarding Dupuis? I have mentioned him a fair bit over the last month... 6 month rehab technically will bring him back in time for the season's end/playoffs, and I am curious to if hes on schedule.
- Guile

He's been skating before practice for weeks is all I know.

It's Dupuis, he'll be back.

If there's one thing that we know about HCMJ, that he has shown a persistent commitment to, it's playing Sutter and Bennett together.
- hardnosed

This is true, I should re-word this to say I would prefer to see Bennett up there. But yes, I agree, He probably stays.

He's been skating before practice for weeks is all I know.

It's Dupuis, he'll be back.
- hardnosed

I removed the post... 6 months from when he started is May 19th... thats deep in the playoffs, and I wouldn't want to change the lineup unless an injury. He shouldn't factor in.

EDIT: The hell am I smoking? Of course we are gonna have an injury or two... Lets hope hes back for the conference finals.

Perron will be money with Sid/Geno. Better offence than Hornqvist

I removed the post... 6 months from when he started is May 19th... thats deep in the playoffs, and I wouldn't want to change the lineup unless an injury. He shouldn't factor in.

EDIT: The hell am I smoking? Of course we are gonna have an injury or two... Lets hope hes back for the conference finals.
- Guile

He would also have to undergo another training camp of sorts, making his return the stanley cup. He would to be a 4th line guy at that point.

While waiting for my soup to cool I watched Perron's goals. Kind of reminds me os Hornqvist in that he is not afraid to shoot and Malkin or Sid will create room for him to shoot. He is a bit grittier from what I can see than expected which is all the better. Really looks to be a solid trade acquisition.
- powerhouse

He reminds me of a grittier Beau, to be honest. Both have that upright skating style and good vision/stickhandling. Perron just has a little more "pest" in his game as well as getting in front of the net. Lots to like here, imo.

I expect him to start out on the right side tonight while Horny is out.

If Perron plays with Crosby and opens things up the way I think he will, that line could live with Downie on the right side. He's got a lot of skill, and he has a knack for finishing plays. I think if he'd score 25 a year on Sid's right wing with Perron in tow. And he can do a lot of the same things that Hornqvist does. Battle in the corners, forecheck hard, get to the front of the net.

Then you could do Comeau/Martin/Hornqvist and keep the Kunitz/Sutter/Bennett line intact.
- hardnosed

Interesting moving Martin to center lol.

I really want to make a big splash move to really put us over the top.. involving Martin + something for Williams or ROR. But very unlikely.

Tlusty, Kassian could be good fits here too. I think GMJR and management has stayed true to their word, they really like the whole grit and character thing (Horn, Comeau, Perron) so I'd expect the next guy, if any, to be in the same mold.

He would also have to undergo another training camp of sorts, making his return the stanley cup. He would to be a 4th line guy at that point.
- usethe1-2-2

It wouldn't take himthat long to get up to speed though. It's not like an injury where he has to take it easy, he could work out hard, so stamina/strength would be there, it would just take some game action to get his timing and hockey legs back.

It wouldn't take himthat long to get up to speed though. It's not like an injury where he has to take it easy, he could work out hard, so stamina/strength would be there, it would just take some game action to get his timing and hockey legs back.
- rival22

Can't burn a roster spot on a guy who needs to get his legs back after not playing for that long. That is hard to do. The only way I see it happening is if he plays a fourth line role, which he would gladly accept.

Can't burn a roster spot on a guy who needs to get his legs back after not playing for that long. That is hard to do. The only way I see it happening is if he plays a fourth line role, which he would gladly accept.
- usethe1-2-2

The last month to month and a half of his treatment, he can be working out with the Penguins in all but full contact. Conditioning wise, he should be completely fine, no reason not to be.

And as mentioned, doubtful unless an injury occurs, which knowing us, it will be... and he has to be ON schedule, or ahead.

When Comeau and Hornqvist are back, I want to see:

Kunitz - Crosby - Perron
Comeau - Malkin - Hornqvist
Downie - Sutter - Bennett
Spaling - Goc - Rust

That's a pretty solid forward lineup.

It would be nice to add another body, for the inevitable injuries. I wonder how much of Briere's salary Colorado would eat? Even at 50% it would probably be impossible to fit without moving someone. But he could be a nice 4th liner for the playoffs. Could slide up if needed or be out there as a second center for draws, etc.