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j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jan 3 @ 6:45 PM ET
So.... you want to promote a 3rd line player, who has been playing GREAT with Sutter and Bennett, to his opposite side wing, just to move down our 1st line winger for a bit more balance.

Yeah, you must be a God of Hockey knowledge. Why not just give Crosby Adams for better balance.

- Guile


It's not his opposite wing.. He can play both wings.. He played the left wing with stammer and Marty... But is listed as a right wing as well... He has proven in the past he can contribute with elite talent. And I actually think he plays better with Sid than he does Sutter. A bit more balance is exactly what the penguins need on their top 9. We've has solid 2 lines in the past and it has not worked so why not balance out your top 9 with someone who can and has played with top level talent in his career while giving Sutter and Bennett a shooter in Kunitz that can finish plays?
jchst22
Joined: 01.24.2013

Jan 3 @ 6:45 PM ET
Two big issues with your statement.

First, Downie wasn't on his line, that was during line cycling in the middle of shifts.
Second, a much less stupid way to credit that, is that the team got back a much needed player while half of the roster has been injured.

You can't be dominant with half the team out, its stupid to think otherwise, and you are just embarrassing yourself here.

- Guile

Downie was on his line actually honey. Kunitz played on the third with sutter and bennett. Spaling and downie played with sid. Must've missed that part. Quit embarrassing yourself
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Jan 3 @ 6:48 PM ET
Downie was on his line actually honey. Kunitz played on the third with sutter and bennett. Spaling and downie played with sid. Must've missed that part. Quit embarrassing yourself
- jchst22



Yeah... Except the first line had Rust up there, not Downie, and Kunitz was on the 2nd. Try again kiddo
Palmer117
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Bridgeville , PA
Joined: 06.10.2014

Jan 3 @ 6:49 PM ET
Send Martin to LA for a first round pick - now got 6 million in cap trade comeu and 2nd for jags and trade dumlion and bennet to carliona for Tulsity
Sell My Monkey
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: United States
Joined: 05.02.2008

Jan 3 @ 6:50 PM ET
Because this is HockeyBuzz, check all logic and reasoning at the door.

Kinda like how everyone assumes Adams just attacked Malkin. Maybe Malkin was being a dbag? Everyone here assumes that every NHL player will be happy to take a cut to play in the glorious city of Pittsburgh.

- sammy87


Lol, who cares? A fight amongst teammates. The only point was Adams is a scrub and Geno is awesome. I could care less what Malkin did or didn't do. If Malkin gets hurt, the Pens are screwed. If Adams gets hurt its addition by subtraction.
jchst22
Joined: 01.24.2013

Jan 3 @ 6:52 PM ET
Yeah... Except the first line had Rust up there, not Downie, and Kunitz was on the 2nd. Try again kiddo
- Guile


https://mobile.twitter.co...status/551160089420500993
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Jan 3 @ 6:55 PM ET
https://mobile.twitter.com/penguins/status/551160089420500993
- jchst22



http://www.nhl.com/gamece.../en/preview?id=2014020560

Suck a Richard kiddo, NHL says otherwise.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jan 3 @ 6:55 PM ET
Yeah... Except the first line had Rust up there, not Downie, and Kunitz was on the 2nd. Try again kiddo
- Guile


Tonight's #Pens lines:
Spaling-Crosby-Downie
Ebbett-Malkin-Rust
Kunitz-Sutter-Bennett
Farnham-Goc-Adams

Downie played with Sid and Spaling all night... nice try tho.
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Jan 3 @ 6:56 PM ET
Tonight's #Pens lines:
Spaling-Crosby-Downie
Ebbett-Malkin-Rust
Kunitz-Sutter-Bennett
Farnham-Goc-Adams

Downie played with Sid and Spaling all night... nice try tho.

- j.boyd919




http://www2.dailyfaceoff....es/36/pittsburgh-penguins

And... you are wrong too... stupid pills all around tonight
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jan 3 @ 6:56 PM ET
http://www.nhl.com/gamecenter/en/preview?id=2014020560

Suck a Richard kiddo, NHL says otherwise.

- Guile



So you're going to go by a pregame preview that was done at 2pm on gameday and not the official teams line combos done a half hour before puck drop? hmm... makes sense.
drummer829
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.12.2010

Jan 3 @ 6:57 PM ET
Weird crosby hasn't done much recently but as soon as downie is on his line he gets 4pts... Downie has proven he can play with top guys.
- jchst22


Plus downie with Sid and no one (frank)s with sid. Perron with malkin, no one (frank)s with malkin
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jan 3 @ 6:57 PM ET
http://www2.dailyfaceoff.com/teams/lines/36/pittsburgh-penguins

And... you are wrong too... stupid pills all around tonight

- Guile


That was referring to the Lightning game the other night dip sh*t
jchst22
Joined: 01.24.2013

Jan 3 @ 6:58 PM ET
http://www.nhl.com/gamecenter/en/preview?id=2014020560

Suck a Richard kiddo, NHL says otherwise.

- Guile

You can explain how sid was a plus 3 and kunitz a minus 2 but played on the same line the whole game then
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jan 3 @ 6:58 PM ET
Why replace Ebbet with Spaling? Ebbet/Malkin/Rust was working just fine...

To everyone saying otherwise: Horny will stay on Sid's right. It worked too well and Horny with Malkin worked too poorly to justify this not happening. Sorry to everyone that wants Downie on Sid's right.
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Jan 3 @ 6:59 PM ET
You can explain how sid was a plus 3 and kunitz a minus 2 but played on the same line the whole game then
- jchst22



Plus Minus, the ultimate way to gauge a player... again, thank you for being even more stupid
stackthepads
Joined: 05.13.2013

Jan 3 @ 7:01 PM ET
If there's one thing that we know about HCMJ, that he has shown a persistent commitment to, it's playing Sutter and Bennett together.
- hardnosed


As he should, they have shown great chemistry and make our third line a threat.
jchst22
Joined: 01.24.2013

Jan 3 @ 7:02 PM ET
Plus Minus, the ultimate way to gauge a player... again, thank you for being even more stupid
- Guile

Not using it as a stat...just saying it is an improbable coincidence
Sasquatchernaut
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Bandwagon fan since 1984
Joined: 02.28.2010

Jan 3 @ 7:03 PM ET
So you're going to go by a pregame preview that was done at 2pm on gameday and not the official teams line combos done a half hour before puck drop? hmm... makes sense.
- j.boyd919


Pregame line rushes:

Downie-Crosby-Perron
Rust-Malkin-Spaling
Bennett-Sutter-Kunitz

Didn't pay close attention to 4th line. Assuming Farnham or Ebbett is odd man out.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jan 3 @ 7:04 PM ET
Plus Minus, the ultimate way to gauge a player... again, thank you for being even more stupid
- Guile


http://nullisecund.us/nhl/toi.php?id=20560

just in case you needed even more proof... Downie played every one of his shifts with Sidney Crosby, while Kunitz played every shift, other than the Power Play with Brandon Sutter...

correction: Kunitz played ALMOST every shift with Sutter and Downie played ALMOST every shift with Sid.
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Jan 3 @ 7:06 PM ET
Not using it as a stat...just saying it is an improbable coincidence
- jchst22


http://penguins.nhl.com/g...en/boxscore?id=2014020127

Andy Greene might have something to say about that improbable... a +3 in a 8-3 loss to the Pens this year.
jchst22
Joined: 01.24.2013

Jan 3 @ 7:09 PM ET
http://nullisecund.us/nhl/toi.php?id=20560

just in case you needed even more proof... Downie played every one of his shifts with Sidney Crosby, while Kunitz played every shift, other than the Power Play with Brandon Sutter...

correction: Kunitz played ALMOST every shift with Sutter and Downie played ALMOST every shift with Sid.

- j.boyd919

Thanks for the advanced stats
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jan 3 @ 7:10 PM ET
http://nullisecund.us/nhl/toi.php?id=20560

just in case you needed even more proof... Downie played every one of his shifts with Sidney Crosby, while Kunitz played every shift, other than the Power Play with Brandon Sutter...

correction: Kunitz played ALMOST every shift with Sutter and Downie played ALMOST every shift with Sid.

- j.boyd919


just in case you can't read charts...

http://naturalstattrick.c...eason=20142015&game=20560

this has Downie playing 15 minutes with Sid, while Kunitz only played 3 (PP) with 87.. buuuuut Kunitz played 12 minutes with BB and Sutter.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jan 3 @ 7:10 PM ET
Thanks for the advanced stats
- jchst22


haha I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not....
Reverend Killtaker
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Alexandria, VA
Joined: 07.02.2008

Jan 3 @ 7:13 PM ET
I just noticed we weren't graced with the presence of Habs fans spouting off how great Price is. I guess they learned the last time.
jchst22
Joined: 01.24.2013

Jan 3 @ 7:14 PM ET
haha I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not....
- j.boyd919

No I've never used that link before. Trying to prove things on a iPhone that doesn't allow the picture uploads and junk gets difficult
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