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Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jan 5 @ 4:51 PM ET
Make a trade for him then , because we are not trading Myers.



- Maximum Signal

Enjoy watching Myers in the world championships every summer...
welch33
Colorado Avalanche
Joined: 07.09.2009

Jan 5 @ 4:51 PM ET
Make a trade for him then , because we are not trading Myers.



- Maximum Signal

We'll wait till FA ... when he leaves your sorry ass of franchise!
DirtyDozen
Detroit Red Wings
Joined: 11.28.2014

Jan 5 @ 4:52 PM ET
Eating up the most minutes being on the ice for the least goals against facing the toughest competition and getting the lowest O zone starts...
- Stripes77


Ok but every top pairing defenseman in the league gets the most minutes and faces the toughest competition. The ozone starts are one point in his favour although they are within a few percentage points of most of the top D guys on the team that arent sheltered.

So yes there are some positives but that still deosnt explain why he's barely outperforming otherr much less talented players on the same team in similar circumstances.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jan 5 @ 4:52 PM ET
Enjoy watching Myers in the world championships every summer...
- Feds91Stammer


Hockey is played in the summer?
welch33
Colorado Avalanche
Joined: 07.09.2009

Jan 5 @ 4:53 PM ET
[quo te=Feds91Stammer]Enjoy watching Myers in the world championships every summer...
AHW SNAP!!
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jan 5 @ 4:53 PM ET
We'll wait till FA ... when he leaves your sorry ass of franchise!
- welch33

Are you going to bring anything worth reading to the conversation? because so far you haven't.
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Jan 5 @ 4:53 PM ET
Eating up the most minutes being on the ice for the least goals against facing the toughest competition and getting the lowest O zone starts...
- Stripes77

If only they kept stats for how often a player loses inside position, doesnt tie up an opponents stickin the crease, or for whatever reason is caught behind the oppositions net as a decenseman.
welch33
Colorado Avalanche
Joined: 07.09.2009

Jan 5 @ 4:54 PM ET
Hockey is played in the summer?
- ImThatGuy

Stanley Cup finals? ?? Oh you guys wouldn't know about that my bad !
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jan 5 @ 4:54 PM ET
Hockey is played in the summer?
- ImThatGuy

I like this guy.
Pairo11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Cancel my subscription to the resurrection.
Joined: 10.15.2007

Jan 5 @ 4:54 PM ET
What the hell did I miss
- SABRES 89

Some kid from Morpeth seriously got his underpants in a bunch.
grand-magus
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "...i'd say you were high on mushrooms", GMTM, NY
Joined: 06.06.2014

Jan 5 @ 4:54 PM ET
Who let Beavis and Butthead into the convo?

Idiots.

GMs in the making, obviously.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jan 5 @ 4:55 PM ET
Ok but every top pairing defenseman in the league gets the most minutes and faces the toughest competition. The ozone starts are one point in his favour although they are within a few percentage points of most of the top D guys on the team that arent sheltered.

So yes there are some positives but that still deosnt explain why he's barely outperforming otherr much less talented players on the same team in similar circumstances.

- DirtyDozen


Because points aren't there? Have you looked at the Sabres forwards?

It's really hard to score when you are constantly trying to you know prevent the other team from scoring because your forwards cant get the puck
wingz4life
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Canada Sucks, MI
Joined: 01.31.2006

Jan 5 @ 4:55 PM ET
Whats news here?

Sabres arent getting future stars Larkin or Mantha.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jan 5 @ 4:55 PM ET
Stanley Cup finals? ?? Oh you guys wouldn't know about that my bad !
- welch33

You can dismiss yourself now.
Maximum Signal
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.11.2008

Jan 5 @ 4:55 PM ET
We'll wait till FA ... when he leaves your sorry ass of franchise!
- welch33

See you in 2020 then.
MCGUIZZY
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bay Area, CA
Joined: 06.20.2012

Jan 5 @ 4:55 PM ET
But he is still here that's the determining factor. If a "fair offer" was made and Myers is still here what would you say?
- Stripes77



Does not prove anything
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jan 5 @ 4:55 PM ET
not trying to be selective i just dont see (other than the win/loss stat which could be influenced by a ton of factors) what stats there are that support that tyler myers is a top pairing defenseman worth anything near what they expect to receive.
- DirtyDozen



He's playing 25 plus mins a night against the toughest competition on the team all while playing with arguably the worst forward group in the NHL.

Place him on a team like Detroit and he's doing all those things along with putting up points do to the far superior forwards.


He'd arguably be on the top pairing on any other team in the NHL outside of maybe 8-9 teams. Detroit isn't one of them.
grand-magus
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "...i'd say you were high on mushrooms", GMTM, NY
Joined: 06.06.2014

Jan 5 @ 4:55 PM ET
Whats news here?

Sabres arent getting future stars Larkin or Mantha.

- wingz4life



And you're not getting Myers.

Bye.
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Jan 5 @ 4:56 PM ET
Ok but every top pairing defenseman in the league gets the most minutes and faces the toughest competition. The ozone starts are one point in his favour although they are within a few percentage points of most of the top D guys on the team that arent sheltered.

So yes there are some positives but that still deosnt explain why he's barely outperforming otherr much less talented players on the same team in similar circumstances.

- DirtyDozen

They seem to think that myers isnt a bonafide top pairing defenseman because the sabres arent playing well while I believe that the sabres arent playing well because myers isnt playing like a franchise defenseman.
wingz4life
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Canada Sucks, MI
Joined: 01.31.2006

Jan 5 @ 4:56 PM ET
We'll wait till FA ... when he leaves your sorry ass of franchise!
- welch33

from a avs gan
Maximum Signal
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.11.2008

Jan 5 @ 4:56 PM ET
Whats news here?

Sabres arent getting future stars Larkin or Mantha.

- wingz4life


And you are not getting Myers . So everyone is happy.


wingz4life
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Canada Sucks, MI
Joined: 01.31.2006

Jan 5 @ 4:56 PM ET
And you're not getting Myers.

Bye.

- grand-magus

who?


Adios
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jan 5 @ 4:57 PM ET
If only they kept stats for how often a player loses inside position, doesnt tie up an opponents stickin the crease, or for whatever reason is caught behind the oppositions net as a decenseman.
- rangerdanger94


That would show up as goals scored while on the ice, no??

Hmm yeah I don't see that. Sure he makes mistakes EVERY NHL defensemen makes them but the good ones make sure it doesn't end up in the back of their net most of the time...
wingz4life
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Canada Sucks, MI
Joined: 01.31.2006

Jan 5 @ 4:57 PM ET
And you are not getting Myers . So everyone is happy.



- Maximum Signal

good blog to attract posts. bring in the 3 wings fans on this site and some trolls of other teams
joshs
Buffalo Sabres
Location: cheektowaga, NY
Joined: 07.07.2012

Jan 5 @ 4:57 PM ET
Ok but every top pairing defenseman in the league gets the most minutes and faces the toughest competition. The ozone starts are one point in his favour although they are within a few percentage points of most of the top D guys on the team that arent sheltered.

So yes there are some positives but that still deosnt explain why he's barely outperforming otherr much less talented players on the same team in similar circumstances.

- DirtyDozen


Barely outperforming. Josh gorges is a minus 17. Sorry we don't have any good fowards to score the puck or free up some space for a shot from the point. He has better stats than josh gorges as far as points and a wayyyy better plus minus. Sorry he's barely outperforming lol.
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