that has to be photoshopped
- nastyflyergirl

No, but this is:

No, but this is:


- jmatchett383

looks legit to me

JVR for Mike Richards
- jmatchett383

I could see some crazy poop like that, or JVR for, like, Ryan O'Reilly or something like that

If they think they've got another LW who could be adequate, I could see them pulling the trigger on JVR, because there are always whispers about his commitment and defense

I could see some crazy poop like that, or JVR for, like, Ryan O'Reilly or something like that

If they think they've got another LW who could be adequate, I could see them pulling the trigger on JVR, because there are always whispers about his commitment and defense
- AllInForFlyers

JVR lacks heart. He wants to stay another year in college.

JVR lacks heart. He wants to stay another year in college.
- jmatchett383

It's bizarre -- some labels just stick to guys

JVR is no more or less consistent and lacking heart than a lot of players I see, but that label sticks with him like few others

would have loved....Vorachek/G/JVR

Since we're discussing ancient history, I'm still unhappy that the Flyers fired Ken Hitchcock. Should've never made that move. He got the shaft there. Discuss.

I'm curious to see if Kadri can hold that down defensively

I won't be surprised at anything that happens up there. I could even see JVR getting moved if they don't improve their team defense
- AllInForFlyers

Since we're discussing ancient history, I'm still unhappy that the Flyers fired ken Hitchcock. Shouuld've never made that move. He got the shaft there. Discuss.
- MJL

Well if we never fired him we never would have had the privilege of seeing John Stevens coach here. Sooo....

- stayinthefnnet

Shut your yap pal

A one top 6 wingers per season acquisition limit.

That is him . I would want no part of this guy on my team. He can score in streaks and that is it. " Invisible Phil" is a common name among Leaf fans.
- 3flyerkids

Toronto may way to stop trading with Boston - Rask for Raycroft and and 2010 first (Seguin), 2nd (knight) and 2011 first (Hamilton) for Kessel. not that Kessel is a bust but I think I would have preferred to draft a Seguin and Hamilton than have Kessel

It's bizarre -- some labels just stick to guys

JVR is no more or less consistent and lacking heart than a lot of players I see, but that label sticks with him like few others
- AllInForFlyers

(frank) that. label him whatever you want. id go all in on him.

the guy we traded jvr for is currently playing/watching for us. far from ancient history.

Shut your yap pal

A one top 6 wingers per season acquisition limit.
- jak521

yeah but come on. for every one they acquire, we all know 3 more are going to get hurt/contract something.

and kunitz seems to be finding father time in the same way richards did. when it comes, it comes hard.

Since we're discussing ancient history, I'm still unhappy that the Flyers fired ken Hitchcock. Shouuld've never made that move. He got the shaft there. Discuss.
- MJL

Sharp

Since we're discussing ancient history, I'm still unhappy that the Flyers fired ken Hitchcock. Shouuld've never made that move. He got the shaft there. Discuss.
- MJL

It's a hockey board, and a hockey discussion

Well if we never fired him we never would have had the privilege of seeing John Stevens coach here. Sooo....
- jak521

Already an assistant.

It's bizarre -- some labels just stick to guys

JVR is no more or less consistent and lacking heart than a lot of players I see, but that label sticks with him like few others
- AllInForFlyers

The irony is that other then the true superstars that go off on 60 goal season tears, such as Stamkos and Ovechkin, all goal scorers are inconsistent. Most on on hot and cold streaks.

I could see some crazy poop like that, or JVR for, like, Ryan O'Reilly or something like that

If they think they've got another LW who could be adequate, I could see them pulling the trigger on JVR, because there are always whispers about his commitment and defense
- AllInForFlyers

I still say that everything Brian Burke said about Bobby Ryan during the Olympic selections could have just as easily applied to JvR.

The irony is that other then the true superstars that go off on 60 goal season tears, such as Stamkos and Ovechkin, all goal scorers are inconsistent. Most on on hot and cold streaks.
- MJL

exactly.

thats why its vital that guys find ways to contribute, or at the very least not be a detriment, during their cold streaks.

I still say that everything Brian Burke said about Bobby Ryan during the Olympic selections could have just as easily applied to JvR.
- johndewar

I don't see them as much as I used to, but man, when I do get a chance to watch them play, yeah, I can see the defensive issues, but it's not just him.

Granted, that doesn't mean he can't, or shouldn't, improve. But he's not the only one.

He's definitely more consistent as a player now than he was in Philadelphia, though, from what I see. Sometimes, the puck doesn't go in and nobody is great every night, but it's hard for me to see him as not part of the solution, but WTF do I know

I still say that everything Brian Burke said about Bobby Ryan during the Olympic selections could have just as easily applied to JvR.
- johndewar

id take jvr at his contract over bobby ryan at his.

Sure, but their contracts didn't matter to the US selection team.

I still say that everything Brian Burke said about Bobby Ryan during the Olympic selections could have just as easily applied to JvR.
- johndewar

That's what made it particularly weird.

Off topic, but interesting. Baseball HOF voting. 75% required for enshrinement.

The two (frank)sticks that voted for Aaron Boone should have their voting privileges taken away. What a disgrace.

Votes Player Percentage
534 Randy Johnson 97.3%
500 Pedro Martinez 91.1%
455 John Smoltz 82.9%
454 Craig Biggio 82.7%
384 Mike Piazza 69.9%
306 Jeff Bagwell 55.7%
302 Tim Raines 55.0%
215 Curt Schilling 39.2%
206 Roger Clemens 37.5%
202 Barry Bonds 36.8%
166 Lee Smith 30.2%
148 Edgar Martinez 27.0%
138 Alan Trammell 25.1%
135 Mike Mussina 24.6%
77 Jeff Kent 14.0%
71 Fred McGriff 12.9%
65 Larry Walker 11.8%
64 Gary Sheffield 11.7%
55 Mark McGwire 10.0%
50 Don Mattingly 9.1%
36 Sammy Sosa 6.6%
30 Nomar Garciaparra 5.5%
21 Carlos Delgado 3.8%
4 Troy Percival 0.7%
2 Aaron Boone 0.4%
2 Tom Gordon 0.4%
1 Darin Erstad 0.2%
0 Rich Aurilia 0.0%
0 Tony Clark 0.0%
0 Jermaine Dye 0.0%
0 Cliff Floyd 0.0%
0 Brian Giles 0.0%
0 Eddie Guardado 0.0%
0 Jason Schmidt 0.0%
- PLindbergh31

Happy for Biggio. He'd be recognized as an all time great if he played in New York or Boston.

Who the (frank) didn't vote for Randy Johnson or Pedro?

that has to be photoshopped
- nastyflyergirl

does it? i don't know. he's pretty much a fat (frank).