Any list with Crouse that high is suspect. Above Hanafin, Strome and Marner? No way.
- Feanor

Some lists are how they feel the player projects as a pro not on current junior/college/Euro stats

not sure where the sen's hoffman kid came from but he has some serious wheels. looks kinda like matt read before this season.

They should, but that isn't going to help skates flying up around players faces. Brayden Schenn came dangerously close to a real serious injury last night. Scary as hell.
- MJL

Kevlar faces are part of the mandate

Any list with Crouse that high is suspect. Above Hanafin, Strome and Marner? No way.
- Feanor

ISS is usually kind of nuts.

Any list with Crouse that high is suspect. Above Hanafin, Strome and Marner? No way.
- Feanor

Ive only seen highlight clips of most of these guys, so I can't really rank them.

I think it was pretty coy of Shanny to keep Nonis and Carlyle around while he sorts out the mess, which could take awhile... two automatic fall guys to dump on the slab.


- Tomahawk

Watching that interview from Nonis yesterday...... wow that dude is clueless.

The strategy brings out another frustration in me. We had many natural Left Wing players we just decided to let walk or give away and now we're weak at that position all throughout the line. Off course many will blame Holmgren and I suppose we can start there but Hextall's first move was to trade away a top line Left Winger. Just this idea of drafting centers and seeing what sticks on wing really pisses me off.
- SuperSchennBros

Umberger/hartnell trade was a win for us IMO. I think there's differing opinions on that

Its amazing what players can do with a great coach.
- GOA88

Actually, I would give more credit to the players. They have to execute. Not taking anything away from Babcock but the Red Wings are lucky to have a group with great hands and puck control.

Watching that interview from Nonis yesterday...... wow that dude is clueless.
- GOA88

Brian Burke taught him everything he knows after all.

Kevlar faces are part of the mandate
- BulliesPhan87

Kevlar Balaclava's!

Higher than I thought but I like him
- ob18

Do you think he'd have a shot at developing into the top line LW they need?

Umberger/hartnell trade was a win for us IMO. I think there's differing opinions on that
- Just5

What? Difference in opinions among who??

Rinaldo
- jmatchett383

I'm getting used to this Rinaldo healthy scratch thing. He should be riding buses.

Watching that interview from Nonis yesterday...... wow that dude is clueless.
- GOA88

He is just a puppet ( a large one) ... Shanahan was under recent criticism for " not being around", then the bomb is dropped.
I wouldn't be suprisd if Nonis is gone after season

Well....he gutted it out and was still a very noticeable player on the ice.

But it was obvious he was struggling a little bit.

I'm ok with him playing as long as he's contributing.
- johndewar

Sliding into the boards because he's gun-shy/doesn't quite have the control he's used to could cause a bit of a problem...

Actually, I would give more credit to the players. They have to execute. Not taking anything away from Babcock but the Red Wings are lucky to have a group with great hands and puck control.
- SuperSchennBros

Thats part of it. Babcock has a nice system and his players buy into it. Berube's team just dumps and chases and shoots from the point. Simple, boring hockey. Im sure the players would rather play a different style. Thats why Berube has clearly been tuned out.

Thats part of it. Babcock has a nice system and his players buy into it. Berube's team just dumps and chases and shoots from the point. Simple, boring hockey. Im sure the players would rather play a different style. Thats why Berube has clearly been tuned out.
- GOA88

I personally don't beleive that the players have tuned Berube out.

I personally don't beleive that the players have tuned Berube out.
- MJL

Did they ever tune in to begin with?

A bit off topic: Anyone see the video of Phil Kessel getting snippy with a reporter?:

http://sports.yahoo.com/b...own--video-232819133.html
- johndewar

he is such a hate the face guy. funny that the reporter looks like he is in much better shape than the pro athlete

Thats part of it. Babcock has a nice system and his players buy into it. Berube's team just dumps and chases and shoots from the point. Simple, boring hockey. Im sure the players would rather play a different style. Thats why Berube has clearly been tuned out.
- GOA88

I don't think we have the personnel to carry the puck like the Red Wings do.

I'm getting used to this Rinaldo healthy scratch thing. He should be riding buses.
- PLindbergh31

The best part of Rinaldo's 2-year extension is that it can be completely buried in the AHL if need be.

Did they ever tune in to begin with?
- Tomahawk

RJ did... That is why he hasn't been scratched yet.

RJ did... That is why he hasn't been scratched yet.
- 3flyerkids

Is it possible, at all, that the national media may recognize that the Flyers' biggest problem is their defense, and that the goaltending issue has (more or less) been solved?
- jmatchett383

Never...

The best part of Rinaldo's 2-year extension is that it can be completely buried in the AHL if need be.
- jmatchett383

Yup, its why the extension didn't bother me