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Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jan 8 @ 10:29 AM ET
Chris Therien was the only one who actually played long term with the Flyers. The scary part is only 4 other guys in the last 25 years made it 4 seasons: Yushkevich, Niinimaa, Seidenberg and Pitkanen. So it's not like they are trading away young guys before they develop. They aren't even recognizing NHL-level defense talent. Those 5 guys are the best and none of them are anywhere near great players.
- psuhockey


Awful
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Jan 8 @ 10:32 AM ET
Tim Panaccio @tpanotchCSN · 2m 2 minutes ago

Mason takes net again as skate begins so all appears fine
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Jan 8 @ 10:36 AM ET
You are one special lady and have probably made your 'someone' very happy
- coffee junkie

I like to think so. We are planning on getting married this year and want to write our own vows. I'm just trying to decide if "I promise to tank and heal for you" is appropriate.

Yes we game far too much together.
That's what we do when not watching the Flyers.
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Jan 8 @ 10:37 AM ET
Tim Panaccio @tpanotchCSN · 2m 2 minutes ago

Mason takes net again as skate begins so all appears fine

- Streit2ThePoint

He's secretly dead. The mask is just a disguise.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jan 8 @ 10:39 AM ET
*looks around cautiously*

*whispers* I think AMac is scratched

*runs*
psuhockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.25.2011

Jan 8 @ 10:41 AM ET
Which are the best teams, historically, at picking and developing D? Are we the worst? I'll expect the report on my office later today.
- coffee junkie

I don't who is the best but Chicago between the 2002 to 2005 drafted 6 defensemen who have played more than 300 games: Keith, Wisniewski, seabrook, Byfuglien, Barker, and hjalmarsson. Its true Barker was a bust, although he was used to get Leddy, and Byfuglien played a large part of his career at forward, but Chicago drafted more defensemen to play 300 games at the NHL level in 4 drafts than the Flyers did between 1987 to 2005, or 19 drafts. You can even expand it until today although Sbisa is 1 game away from 300 which would give them 6 since 1987.
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Jan 8 @ 10:44 AM ET
*looks around cautiously*

*whispers* I think AMac is scratched

*runs*

- BulliesPhan87

Interesting.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jan 8 @ 10:44 AM ET
Your blueline healthy scratch this evening......



coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jan 8 @ 10:45 AM ET
*looks around cautiously*

*whispers* I think AMac is scratched

*runs*

- BulliesPhan87

Well we would all know if Bill wasn't MIA. At what time do we start becoming concerned? Gosh he spoils us.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jan 8 @ 10:46 AM ET
Well we would all know if Bill wasn't MIA. At what time do we start becoming concerned? Gosh he spoils us.
- coffee junkie

maybe Ek healthy scratched him?
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jan 8 @ 10:48 AM ET
#BerubeLogic is to reunite the defensive pairing that gives up the most goals when we play Ovechkin and the red-hot Capitals.

http://stats.hockeyanalys...ue&season=2014-15&sit=5v5
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jan 8 @ 10:48 AM ET
I don't who is the best but Chicago between the 2002 to 2005 drafted 6 defensemen who have played more than 300 games: Keith, Wisniewski, seabrook, Byfuglien, Barker, and hjalmarsson. Its true Barker was a bust, although he was used to get Leddy, and Byfuglien played a large part of his career at forward, but Chicago drafted more defensemen to play 300 games at the NHL level in 4 drafts than the Flyers did between 1987 to 2005, or 19 drafts. You can even expand it until today although Sbisa is 1 game away from 300 which would give them 6 since 1987.
- psuhockey


NSH has got to be the best, recently: Josi, Weber, Hamhuis, Suter, Ellis, Jones, Franson, Klein, Ryan Mother(frank)ing Parent, etc.
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jan 8 @ 10:50 AM ET
NSH has got to be the best, recently: Josi, Weber, Hamhuis, Suter, Ellis, Jones, Franson, Klein, Ryan Mother(frank)ing Parent, etc.
- Tomahawk

Good point. I wanted Jones so bad in that draft
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jan 8 @ 10:50 AM ET
Your blueline healthy scratch this evening......




- PLindbergh31


Nonsense. He's been playing great, moving the puck, confident, guy has been getting back to the form that we expect when he signed the deal

coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jan 8 @ 10:51 AM ET
#BerubeLogic is to reunite the defensive pairing that gives up the most goals when we play Ovechkin and the red-hot Capitals.

http://stats.hockeyanalys...ue&season=2014-15&sit=5v5

- Feanor

Never speak ill about coach punch face, jerk!

Banned
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jan 8 @ 10:51 AM ET
Deserved to make opening night roster? He could not make top 6 on a team of 20 year olds. It looks like he could use a season with the Phantoms before he makes the big club. He looks a little slow to me
- 3flyerkids

i dont know if any of our current guys could crack that roster
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jan 8 @ 10:52 AM ET
Tim Panaccio @tpanotchCSN · 2m 2 minutes ago

Mason takes net again as skate begins so all appears fine

- Streit2ThePoint

its a dopple ganger with parts of lindbergh's corpse sttached
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Jan 8 @ 10:53 AM ET
#BerubeLogic is to reunite the defensive pairing that gives up the most goals when we play Ovechkin and the red-hot Capitals.

http://stats.hockeyanalys...ue&season=2014-15&sit=5v5

- Feanor


Hey when you fall of that bike you get right back on! Gotta learn somehow, right?
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jan 8 @ 10:54 AM ET
NSH has got to be the best, recently: Josi, Weber, Hamhuis, Suter, Ellis, Jones, Franson, Klein, Ryan Mother(frank)ing Parent, etc.
- Tomahawk


We hopefully have a few in the works
psuhockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.25.2011

Jan 8 @ 10:55 AM ET
NSH has got to be the best, recently: Josi, Weber, Hamhuis, Suter, Ellis, Jones, Franson, Klein, Ryan Mother(frank)ing Parent, etc.
- Tomahawk

Nashville has 6 dmen who have played over 300 games since they 1st started drafting in 1998. Guys like Josi, Ellis, and Jones have a little to go but unless of an injury will get there. So I think it pretty safe to say they might be the best at drafting defensemen when you consider the studs like Hamhuis, Suter and Weber in there with future studs like Josi and Jones.

Even they have had some big misses in Blum and Parent. That shows what a crap shoot drafting defensemen is. Both those guys looked great right up until they were about to become full time NHLers. That's why I try to temper by expectations for the Flyers prospects. You never can tell until they play at the speed of the NHL.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 8 @ 10:55 AM ET
Dunno... Hagg was a pretty nice pick at that spot. Not really upset about that one.

Everybody knows how much I'm obsessed w/ Morrissey, tho.

- Tomahawk


He's no Pulock.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jan 8 @ 10:56 AM ET
Nonsense. He's been playing great, moving the puck, confident, guy has been getting back to the form that we expect when he signed the deal


- Just5


He's a (frank)ing stiff.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 8 @ 10:59 AM ET
Deserved to make opening night roster? He could not make top 6 on a team of 20 year olds. It looks like he could use a season with the Phantoms before he makes the big club. He looks a little slow to me
- 3flyerkids


That defensive corps of 20 year olds would rival the defense of several NHL teams. They're basically the CHL All Stars out there. The fact that he made the team over guys like Hayden Fleury and Chris Bigras is a pretty big testament to how he's viewed.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jan 8 @ 10:59 AM ET
Nashville has 6 dmen who have played over 300 games since they 1st started drafting in 1998. Guys like Josi, Ellis, and Jones have a little to go but unless of an injury will get there. So I think it pretty safe to say they might be the best at drafting defensemen when you consider the studs like Hamhuis, Suter and Weber in there with future studs like Josi and Jones.

Even they have had some big misses in Blum and Parent. That shows what a crap shoot drafting defensemen is. Both those guys looked great right up until they were about to become full time NHLers. That's why I try to temper by expectations for the Flyers prospects. You never can tell until they play at the speed of the NHL.

- psuhockey


Yeah, pretty much. They take a lot of D in their first-60 picks. Flyers traditionally haven't, but have kind of done a 180 on that. We'll see if it pays off.

We hopefully have a few in the works
- ob18


Damn right. Let's add another: Hanifin, Kylington, Werenski anyone?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 8 @ 11:06 AM ET
Yeah, pretty much. They take a lot of D in their first-60 picks. Flyers traditionally haven't, but have kind of done a 180 on that. We'll see if it pays off.



Damn right. Let's add another: Hanifin, Kylington, Werenski anyone?

- Tomahawk


I know it will never happen, but would you do, right now:

Couturier, Simmonds, Coburn, 2015 1st rounder

for Shea Weber

Again, will not happen, but would you?
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