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Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jan 8 @ 11:07 AM ET
I know it will never happen, but would you do, right now:

Couturier, Simmonds, Coburn, 2015 1st rounder

for Shea Weber

Again, will not happen, but would you?

- jmatchett383


no
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jan 8 @ 11:07 AM ET
NSH has got to be the best, recently: Josi, Weber, Hamhuis, Suter, Ellis, Jones, Franson, Klein, Ryan Mother(frank)ing Parent, etc.
- Tomahawk


I think defense is going to be to hockey what pitching is to baseball.

Draft them in bunches and hope some of them pan out.

You can see the premiums paid to guys at the NHL level who play the blueline even at a competent level. Teams are going to look for ways to reduce that payout and the best way is to draft, develop, and control those players (contractually) as long as you possibly can before they go somewhere else and get paid.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jan 8 @ 11:08 AM ET


Great, now I'm thirsty.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jan 8 @ 11:10 AM ET
no
- Just5


jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 8 @ 11:11 AM ET
I think defense is going to be to hockey what pitching is to baseball.

Draft them in bunches and hope some of them pan out.

You can see the premiums paid to guys at the NHL level who play the blueline even at a competent level. Teams are going to look for ways to reduce that payout and the best way is to draft, develop, and control those players (contractually) as long as you possibly can before they go somewhere else and get paid.

- johndewar


A group of overpaid players who are able to perform at a high level up until their mid-40's even when they're fat and out of shape who need Tommy John surgery once every 3 years?
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Jan 8 @ 11:11 AM ET
I know it will never happen, but would you do, right now:

Couturier, Simmonds, Coburn, 2015 1st rounder

for Shea Weber

Again, will not happen, but would you?

- jmatchett383


Tempting, but no. I'd have a death grip on that 1st rounder.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 8 @ 11:13 AM ET

- Tomahawk


Would you do that deal for Josh Morrissey?
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jan 8 @ 11:13 AM ET
Tempting, but no. I'd have a death grip on that 1st rounder.
- Streit2ThePoint

trade tgat first rounder for an elite proven mid to late 20something defensemen
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jan 8 @ 11:16 AM ET
Would you do that deal for Josh Morrissey?
- jmatchett383


lol
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 8 @ 11:18 AM ET
trade tgat first rounder for an elite proven mid to late 20something defensemen
- JoeRussomanno


No team with an "elite proven mid to late 20something defensemen" is going to trade said player for a draft pick, MAYBE for the 1st overall.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 8 @ 11:19 AM ET
lol
- Tomahawk


Your brain is saying no, but I can tell how badly you want to say yes.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 8 @ 11:19 AM ET
I know it will never happen, but would you do, right now:

Couturier, Simmonds, Coburn, 2015 1st rounder

for Shea Weber

Again, will not happen, but would you?

- jmatchett383


Would you do Voracek for Seth Jones and 2015 Nash first rounder?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 8 @ 11:20 AM ET
Would you do Voracek for Seth Jones and 2015 Nash first rounder?
- PhillySportsGuy


Nope. I like Seth Jones, but he hasn't done it for long enough for me yet, and that 1st rounder is looking like a 20+ pick at this point.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 8 @ 11:24 AM ET
Nope. I like Seth Jones, but he hasn't done it for long enough for me yet, and that 1st rounder is looking like a 20+ pick at this point.
- jmatchett383


Jones
Fiala
2015 first
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jan 8 @ 11:25 AM ET
Would you do Voracek for Seth Jones and 2015 Nash first rounder?
- PhillySportsGuy


Close one.... I'm leaning yes.

Edit: well (frank), if you're giving me Fiala, YES
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jan 8 @ 11:26 AM ET
A group of overpaid players who are able to perform at a high level up until their mid-40's even when they're fat and out of shape who need Tommy John surgery once every 3 years?
- jmatchett383


Not quite like that.

I mean insofar as the premium paid for pitching is over and above what you would pay for a hitter.

Look at how bad Luke Schenn is and look at how much money he makes relative to some of the forwards on this team....Wayne Simmonds, for example.

Are Luke Schenn's contributes commensurate with Wayne Simmonds'? Probably not, but since Luke Schenn plays defense, he gets paid what he gets paid.

And despite the fact that I think Luke Schenn will not be a Flyer after this contract expires, by virtue of the fact that the dude's righthanded and can skate backwards....I'm guessing he'll get another contract from somebody.

ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jan 8 @ 11:27 AM ET
Would you do that deal for Josh Morrissey?
- jmatchett383


No
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 8 @ 11:28 AM ET
Close one.... I'm leaning yes.

Edit: well (frank), if you're giving me Fiala, YES

- Tomahawk


Think of it from Nashvilles point of view. Including Fiala might be over the top for them but getting a forward like Jake for two seasons would be huge for a team that's already one of the best in hockey
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jan 8 @ 11:28 AM ET
any interest in ryan ellis?
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jan 8 @ 11:30 AM ET
No team with an "elite proven mid to late 20something defensemen" is going to trade said player for a draft pick, MAYBE for the 1st overall.
- jmatchett383

and you know this because? [/img]
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jan 8 @ 11:32 AM ET
any interest in ryan ellis?
- JoeRussomanno


A lot, but I don't believe we'll see Poile dealing any dmen to the Flyers anytime soon.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jan 8 @ 11:32 AM ET
Tim Panaccio @tpanotchCSN · 2m 2 minutes ago

Mason takes net again as skate begins so all appears fine

- Streit2ThePoint


Fingers crossed!

I hope this mystery injury doesn't linger for the rest of the season.
bgratch
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.17.2010

Jan 8 @ 11:33 AM ET
Sarah Baicker ‏@sbaickerCSN 7m7 minutes ago

Flyers will have the same lineup as Tues., except MacDonald is out and L. Schenn in. Berube said it's a matter of size/physicality.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jan 8 @ 11:37 AM ET
A lot, but I don't believe we'll see Poile dealing any dmen to the Flyers anytime soon.
- Tomahawk

oh c'mon its business... those bumholes dangled him out there for over a year... were they really that shocked?!
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jan 8 @ 11:38 AM ET
Sarah Baicker ‏@sbaickerCSN 7m7 minutes ago

Flyers will have the same lineup as Tues., except MacDonald is out and L. Schenn in. Berube said it's a matter of size/physicality.

- bgratch

no sara... its really a billboard saying berube is clueless
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