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massa_3
Edmonton Oilers
Location: #shutupJB
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jan 8 @ 2:59 PM ET
I didn't say we was a dwarf. I said he has teenie tiny shoulders. Long and thin. Super skilled. I just think injuries are going to take their toll.

Boy oh boy wou guys are feisty today...

- bloatedmosquito


A lot of this stems from what the definition of soft is. You are arguing being soft means you get hurt a lot since you use the argument that henrik has played so many games without missing many due to injury.

Most everyone else is arguing that being soft means you get pushed around and hit a lot which over a long period of time can hamper effectiveness, especially in the playoffs.

Edit: By your definition a guy like Peter Forsberg, who had his fair share of injuries was soft.... I don't think anyone who watched him play would call him soft (minus the diving stuff he did for a while).

You can't argue Nuge isn't a #1C, because by definition he is one by being on the first line of the Oilers. You can debate whether or not he is a top 10, 20 or 30 amongst his peer group, but it remains to be seen where he ends up when he is in his prime. We can't predict the future, but the early returns show there is a potential to be a top 10 C in this league.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: A dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Jan 8 @ 3:03 PM ET
and you say that ignoring he has increased in weight and muscle. which has been pointed out to you many times.
- ChetManly


Oh Chet, the original question asked by leaf fan was 'we need a #1 centre now" and then went on to ask what it would take to get RNH.

I responded by asking why the (frank) wold you want RNH now, he's not a #1C.

And then you guys went nuts by bringing up henrik, canucks loss in game 7, and general insults to everyone not a oil fan. Talk about volatile.

If you can show me where I started any comparison I will apologize and leave. otherwise let's all get back to the question of RNH being a true #1 centre at this stage of his career.

He's just not and I'm a RNH fan. Local boy. Love to see him on his favorite team.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: A dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Jan 8 @ 3:05 PM ET
And you can't win the only trophy that matters being a softy. The soft pieces of crap Sedins were nowhere to be found when they were needed in the finals.
- Oilfan19


OK, your opinion. But you don't win a Hart and Art Ross together if you are a soft POS. It's just a fact.
ruttager17
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Don't worry about me, worry about yourself". -EKLB DNZ supreme , AB
Joined: 10.21.2011

Jan 8 @ 3:06 PM ET
I didn't say we was a dwarf. I said he has teenie tiny shoulders. Long and thin. Super skilled. I just think injuries are going to take their toll.

Boy oh boy wou guys are feisty today...

- bloatedmosquito

What is your scientific basis for this occurring? Like can you back this up with some explanation using anatomical and physiological facts, based on shoulder size and injury?
ChetManly
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I think Chet Manly is the worst poster on this site - James Tanner
Joined: 06.25.2013

Jan 8 @ 3:06 PM ET
Oh Chet, the original question asked by leaf fan was 'we need a #1 centre now" and then went on to ask what it would take to get RNH.

I responded by asking why the (frank) wold you want RNH now, he's not a #1C.

And then you guys went nuts by bringing up henrik, canucks loss in game 7, and general insults to everyone not a oil fan. Talk about volatile.

If you can show me where I started any comparison I will apologize and leave. otherwise let's all get back to the question of RNH being a true #1 centre at this stage of his career.

He's just not and I'm a RNH fan. Local boy. Love to see him on his favorite team.

- bloatedmosquito

Bolded - that's your opinion. Is he more of a #2 on better teams, yes.

Game 7 - that was only JB, #shutupJB

As for the comparisons, it's already been pointed out.

RNH is 21, he still has 3-5 years until he is in his prime years.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jan 8 @ 3:07 PM ET
Found this today, had to share it with my Bros
ChetManly
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I think Chet Manly is the worst poster on this site - James Tanner
Joined: 06.25.2013

Jan 8 @ 3:07 PM ET
A lot of this stems from what the definition of soft is. You are arguing being soft means you get hurt a lot since you use the argument that henrik has played so many games without missing many due to injury.

Most everyone else is arguing that being soft means you get pushed around and hit a lot which over a long period of time can hamper effectiveness, especially in the playoffs.

Edit: By your definition a guy like Peter Forsberg, who had his fair share of injuries was soft.... I don't think anyone who watched him play would call him soft (minus the diving stuff he did for a while).

You can't argue Nuge isn't a #1C, because by definition he is one by being on the first line of the Oilers. You can debate whether or not he is a top 10, 20 or 30 amongst his peer group, but it remains to be seen where he ends up when he is in his prime. We can't predict the future, but the early returns show there is a potential to be a top 10 C in this league.

- massa_3

this poop happens everytime mosquito shows up.
ChetManly
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I think Chet Manly is the worst poster on this site - James Tanner
Joined: 06.25.2013

Jan 8 @ 3:08 PM ET
Found this today, had to share it with my Bros

- DDM-Coga

it's a gooder, isn't it?
massa_3
Edmonton Oilers
Location: #shutupJB
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jan 8 @ 3:10 PM ET
this poop happens everytime mosquito shows up.

- ChetManly


i would be curious to see his argument to this part of my other post

You can't argue Nuge isn't a #1C, because by definition he is one by being on the first line of the Oilers. You can debate whether or not he is a top 10, 20 or 30 amongst his peer group, but it remains to be seen where he ends up when he is in his prime. We can't predict the future, but the early returns show there is a potential to be a top 10 C in this league.
ChetManly
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I think Chet Manly is the worst poster on this site - James Tanner
Joined: 06.25.2013

Jan 8 @ 3:13 PM ET
i would be curious to see his argument to this part of my other post

You can't argue Nuge isn't a #1C, because by definition he is one by being on the first line of the Oilers. You can debate whether or not he is a top 10, 20 or 30 amongst his peer group, but it remains to be seen where he ends up when he is in his prime. We can't predict the future, but the early returns show there is a potential to be a top 10 C in this league.

- massa_3

Is fe a #1C as compared to other established #1C in the league such as Crosby, Getzlaf, Kopitar, Toews, etc, is the starting point. RNH, given his skills and abilities, is definitely in the 20-11 range. But the interesting part would be the #2C that could be #1C, such as Malkin for example.

RNH is 21, he isn't even in his "prime years" yet. Like you said, evidence shows he is capable of being a top 10 1C.
SpoiledByOil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 08.09.2012

Jan 8 @ 3:18 PM ET
Oh Chet, the original question asked by leaf fan was 'we need a #1 centre now" and then went on to ask what it would take to get RNH.

I responded by asking why the (frank) wold you want RNH now, he's not a #1C.

And then you guys went nuts by bringing up henrik, canucks loss in game 7, and general insults to everyone not a oil fan. Talk about volatile.

If you can show me where I started any comparison I will apologize and leave. otherwise let's all get back to the question of RNH being a true #1 centre at this stage of his career.

He's just not and I'm a RNH fan. Local boy. Love to see him on his favorite team.

- bloatedmosquito




If the leafs need a #1 centre, then why the (frank) would Nonis be calling about RNH? Those itty bitty tiny shoulders won't be able to hold up crashing and banging with the best d-men in the league.

He's super skilled but not a true #1 on a contending team.


I know, the thought of RNH as a #1 centre makes me laugh too.


I know we like to give each other a hard time but RNH has done nothing to suggest that he'll be as good as H Sedin. Nothing. That's just oiler fanboy talk. Oil fans think player potential = guaranteed success.

That's why the majority of oil fans are so shocked and disappointed within a month of the season's start. Can't believe their team isn't contending now. Start achieving before claiming them as stars.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: A dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Jan 8 @ 3:19 PM ET
i would be curious to see his argument to this part of my other post

You can't argue Nuge isn't a #1C, because by definition he is one by being on the first line of the Oilers. You can debate whether or not he is a top 10, 20 or 30 amongst his peer group, but it remains to be seen where he ends up when he is in his prime. We can't predict the future, but the early returns show there is a potential to be a top 10 C in this league.

- massa_3


Let me answer your other post first and then I'll get to this one.

You guys are coming at me fast and furious.
SpoiledByOil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 08.09.2012

Jan 8 @ 3:20 PM ET
Let me answer your other post first and then I'll get to this one.

You guys are coming at me fast and furious.

- bloatedmosquito



I always come fast and furious
Dangles13
Edmonton Oilers
Location: MB
Joined: 02.08.2011

Jan 8 @ 3:21 PM ET
Let me answer your other post first and then I'll get to this one.

You guys are coming at me fast and furious.

- bloatedmosquito


Not the first time you've used that line is it?
massa_3
Edmonton Oilers
Location: #shutupJB
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jan 8 @ 3:22 PM ET
Let me answer your other post first and then I'll get to this one.

You guys are coming at me fast and furious.

- bloatedmosquito


That's what she said?
Oilfan19
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Hodgson is a future #1C" - hanleyaj, AB
Joined: 02.16.2012

Jan 8 @ 3:22 PM ET
Not the first time you've used that line is it?
- Dangles13

ChetManly
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I think Chet Manly is the worst poster on this site - James Tanner
Joined: 06.25.2013

Jan 8 @ 3:23 PM ET
Not the first time you've used that line is it?
- Dangles13

ChetManly
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I think Chet Manly is the worst poster on this site - James Tanner
Joined: 06.25.2013

Jan 8 @ 3:23 PM ET
Let me answer your other post first and then I'll get to this one.

You guys are coming at me fast and furious.

- bloatedmosquito

your milkshake brings us....
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Jan 8 @ 3:27 PM ET
Found this today, had to share it with my Bros

- DDM-Coga


Hall told us they aren't getting mcjesus...


And how dare you call me booshie
ChetManly
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I think Chet Manly is the worst poster on this site - James Tanner
Joined: 06.25.2013

Jan 8 @ 3:30 PM ET
Hall told us they aren't getting mcjesus...


And how dare you call me booshie

- Iggysbff

tell hall to go eat some more hay. McDavid is way dreamier.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jan 8 @ 3:32 PM ET
Hall told us they aren't getting mcjesus...


And how dare you call me booshie

- Iggysbff


wuv woo
Oilfan19
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Hodgson is a future #1C" - hanleyaj, AB
Joined: 02.16.2012

Jan 8 @ 3:35 PM ET
It sucks the world jrs is over. Hockey sucks now for 9 months
ChetManly
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I think Chet Manly is the worst poster on this site - James Tanner
Joined: 06.25.2013

Jan 8 @ 3:36 PM ET
wuv woo
- DDM-Coga

Is he your bae or your boo?
ruttager17
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Don't worry about me, worry about yourself". -EKLB DNZ supreme , AB
Joined: 10.21.2011

Jan 8 @ 3:37 PM ET
I always come fast and furious
- SpoiledByOil

Do you get a lot of complaints? Cause I know how some selfish b!tches like it to last longer than 5 mins and stuff.
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Jan 8 @ 3:37 PM ET
wuv woo
- DDM-Coga

This from the guy with a last name Gallant....

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