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TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Jan 8 @ 11:43 PM ET
That would be a pretty good pairing. Both big and physical and EJ could allow Phaneuf to play more of a "rover" style defense. Phaneuf would unfortunately be the top option in Edmonton and would have nobody to help him out.

I don't know if Toronto would keep salary or pursue a team with a bad contract and try to get a top tier prospect if they tried shipping him out. Maybe Lecavalier and Laughton in Philadelphia?

- Dangles13


Phaneuf-Fayne might be a good pairing at even strength. Give Phaneuf heavy PP.
SJSharks39
San Jose Sharks
Location: I'm the OELest , CA
Joined: 11.14.2014

Jan 8 @ 11:43 PM ET
You know who i want the Sharks to go after inthe offseason Patrick Sharp.
Center a package around Tommy Wingels we got plenty of young prospects.
Dangles13
Edmonton Oilers
Location: MB
Joined: 02.08.2011

Jan 8 @ 11:44 PM ET
Phaneuf-Fayne might be a good pairing at even strength. Give -Phaneuf heavy PP.
- TheNugeIsHuge


I would be ok with bringing in Phaneuf for an ok package, he'd become our best all around defender and Fayne could be his Gunnarsson.
Dieselhead
Location: CA
Joined: 11.01.2011

Jan 8 @ 11:45 PM ET
I don't know who will take Kessel and Phaneuf...the pipe dream proposals of trading those guys for younger guys on the ELC won't happen, no team is going to give up a 950k young gun and take on 7m+ in Cap space.

Guys like Clarkson, Lupul, Bozak, and maybe JVR are more likely to be sold off for dirt cheap

- DDM-Coga


I'm hoping that the Blackhawks can pick up JVR and a good prospect for Sharp in the off season. Chicago will need to shed some salary this Summer.
batjester
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: College hockey is way more competitive than the OHL - hanleyaj, WI
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jan 8 @ 11:45 PM ET
The big thing though is that defensemen are so valuable and not many are available that the market would be (frank)ed. It is a bad contract but some gm was able to get two 2nd round picks for Douglas Murray.
- Dangles13

That would have been us




And I actually thought he was what we needed at the time



One of the big reasons I don't value "shut down" d-men very highly.
whipper334
Calgary Flames
Location: The man they call Reveen!!
Joined: 01.06.2010

Jan 8 @ 11:46 PM ET
I'm hoping that the Blackhawks can pick up JVR and a good prospect for Sharp in the off season. Chicago will need to shed some salary this Summer.
- Dieselhead

DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jan 8 @ 11:46 PM ET
I'm hoping that the Blackhawks can pick up JVR and a good prospect for Sharp in the off season. Chicago will need to shed some salary this Summer.
- Dieselhead


They would be crazy to move him bc hes young, on a great contract, and has shown at times he can dominate. I think if they keep on spiralling down they will be crazy enough to do it.

I asked some leaf fans today if they would move him and they said yes bc hes lazy and a Me First guy too, but I think thats a bit of fan frustration and expecting too much out of everyone of their guys
SJSharks39
San Jose Sharks
Location: I'm the OELest , CA
Joined: 11.14.2014

Jan 8 @ 11:47 PM ET
If they were able to move Lecavalier and his contract then I bet they would do what it takes to make room. Umberger for a pick.
- Dangles13

Umberger is poop with 2 yr at 4.5 cap hit.,,,,Flyers have some notorious contracts
Dangles13
Edmonton Oilers
Location: MB
Joined: 02.08.2011

Jan 8 @ 11:48 PM ET
That would have been us




And I actually thought he was what we needed at the time



One of the big reasons I don't value "shut down" d-men very highly.

- batjester


He was at one point a useful player but his skating was just (frank)ed. Crazy overpay but that's what happens when teams are desperate.
Dangles13
Edmonton Oilers
Location: MB
Joined: 02.08.2011

Jan 8 @ 11:49 PM ET
Umberger is poop with 2 yr at 4.5 cap hit.,,,,Flyers have some notorious contracts
- SJSharks39


Yup he sounds like the perfect player for Florida.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jan 8 @ 11:49 PM ET
That would have been us




And I actually thought he was what we needed at the time



One of the big reasons I don't value "shut down" d-men very highly.

- batjester


not at that time of their careers. "Shut down" D-men just always seem to fall off a cliff around 33 years of age. Just the toll of those minutes makes them a fossil and its impossible to jump back from.

Thats why I think Methot would be a risky long term signing this summer.
SJSharks39
San Jose Sharks
Location: I'm the OELest , CA
Joined: 11.14.2014

Jan 8 @ 11:50 PM ET
I'm hoping that the Blackhawks can pick up JVR and a good prospect for Sharp in the off season. Chicago will need to shed some salary this Summer.
- Dieselhead

(frank) the hawks, JVR ain't going nowhere.
SJSharks39
San Jose Sharks
Location: I'm the OELest , CA
Joined: 11.14.2014

Jan 8 @ 11:50 PM ET
Yup he sounds like the perfect player for Florida.
- Dangles13

whipper334
Calgary Flames
Location: The man they call Reveen!!
Joined: 01.06.2010

Jan 8 @ 11:51 PM ET
not at that time of their careers. "Shut down" D-men just always seem to fall off a cliff around 33 years of age. Just the toll of those minutes makes them a fossil and its impossible to jump back from.

Thats why I think Methot would be a risky long term signing this summer.

- DDM-Coga

Exactly! Happened to Regher.
batjester
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: College hockey is way more competitive than the OHL - hanleyaj, WI
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jan 8 @ 11:52 PM ET
He was at one point a useful player but his skating was just (frank)ed. Crazy overpay but that's what happens when teams are desperate.
- Dangles13

Yeah, went in to win now mode


I did like the physicality he brought, but damn he was a pylon. Despres is bringing the hits, but can actually skate and has some offensive potential
Dangles13
Edmonton Oilers
Location: MB
Joined: 02.08.2011

Jan 8 @ 11:52 PM ET
Exactly! Happened to Regher.
- whipper334


and Garnett Exelby.....
whipper334
Calgary Flames
Location: The man they call Reveen!!
Joined: 01.06.2010

Jan 8 @ 11:53 PM ET
and Garnett Exelby.....
- Dangles13

Dieselhead
Location: CA
Joined: 11.01.2011

Jan 8 @ 11:53 PM ET
They would be crazy to move him bc hes young, on a great contract, and has shown at times he can dominate. I think if they keep on spiralling down they will be crazy enough to do it.

I asked some leaf fans today if they would move him and they said yes bc hes lazy and a Me First guy too, but I think thats a bit of fan frustration and expecting too much out of everyone of their guys

- DDM-Coga


He'd be happy in Chicago because his brother TVR just started playing with the big club this year and has surprised everyone with his poise and skill set for such a young player. Unfortunately, his knee got cracked by a slap shot and probably ended his season.
SJSharks39
San Jose Sharks
Location: I'm the OELest , CA
Joined: 11.14.2014

Jan 8 @ 11:53 PM ET
That would have been us




And I actually thought he was what we needed at the time



One of the big reasons I don't value "shut down" d-men very highly.

- batjester

You didn't like crankshaft
batjester
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: College hockey is way more competitive than the OHL - hanleyaj, WI
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jan 8 @ 11:55 PM ET
not at that time of their careers. "Shut down" D-men just always seem to fall off a cliff around 33 years of age. Just the toll of those minutes makes them a fossil and its impossible to jump back from.

Thats why I think Methot would be a risky long term signing this summer.

- DDM-Coga

Yeah, seems like when those guys start to drop off it's drastic, and in a super short span.
Dangles13
Edmonton Oilers
Location: MB
Joined: 02.08.2011

Jan 8 @ 11:56 PM ET
Yeah, went in to win now mode


I did like the physicality he brought, but damn he was a pylon. Despres is bringing the hits, but can actually skate and has some offensive potential

- batjester


Those kinds of players just don't have a long shelf life. They can battle in front of the net like a boss but once they lose their youthful speed they are pretty (frank)ed.
batjester
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: College hockey is way more competitive than the OHL - hanleyaj, WI
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jan 8 @ 11:57 PM ET
You didn't like crankshaft

- SJSharks39

I loved him






For about 3 weeks
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Jan 8 @ 11:59 PM ET
I loved him






For about 3 weeks

- batjester


He gave me hope that Hemsky would fetch 2 2nds
batjester
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: College hockey is way more competitive than the OHL - hanleyaj, WI
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jan 9 @ 12:00 AM ET
Those kinds of players just don't have a long shelf life. They can battle in front of the net like a boss but once they lose their youthful speed they are pretty (frank)ed.
- Dangles13

Yup.
batjester
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: College hockey is way more competitive than the OHL - hanleyaj, WI
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jan 9 @ 12:01 AM ET
He gave me hope that Hemsky would fetch 2 2nds
- TheNugeIsHuge

Hemsky, killing hopes and dreams since 2006
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