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PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 9 @ 1:34 PM ET
KWilsonPreds ‏@KWilsonPreds 31m31 minutes ago
It is official! Peter Laviolette and the @PredsNHL coaching staff will be behind the bench at the 2015 All-Star Game in Columbus.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 9 @ 1:35 PM ET

- Streit2ThePoint


What is "Two people who should explode?"
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 9 @ 1:35 PM ET
no comment
- BulliesPhan87


"No comment" is a comment
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jan 9 @ 1:36 PM ET
Hope she gets well soon GiG!!
- BiggE

Thanks my friend
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 9 @ 1:37 PM ET
KWilsonPreds ‏@KWilsonPreds 31m31 minutes ago
It is official! Peter Laviolette and the @PredsNHL coaching staff will be behind the bench at the 2015 All-Star Game in Columbus.

- PhillySportsGuy


I don't think I've watched an All Star game in at least 5 years. The fantasy draft is the best part.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 9 @ 1:38 PM ET
"No comment" is a comment
- PhillySportsGuy


But if reality is a fallacy, then is there is anyone to make no comment.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jan 9 @ 1:39 PM ET

- Streit2ThePoint

johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jan 9 @ 1:39 PM ET
I don't think I've watched an All Star game in at least 5 years. The fantasy draft is the best part.
- jmatchett383


I used to love all of the All-Star games as a kid.

Now, they just seem terrible, for whatever reason.

If you'll excuse me, I'm going to go watch Matlock and tell some kids to get off of my lawn.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jan 9 @ 1:40 PM ET
But if reality is a fallacy, then is there is anyone to make no comment.
- jmatchett383


My answer to most philosophical questions is: Who gives a flying (frank)?

That is all
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jan 9 @ 1:41 PM ET
I used to love all of the All-Star games as a kid.

Now, they just seem terrible, for whatever reason.

If you'll excuse me, I'm going to go watch Matlock and tell some kids to get off of my lawn.

- johndewar

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 9 @ 1:41 PM ET
Chicken and egg. Is Read holding Couturier back or vice versa? You talk about Couturier being a 60 point guy, but he has demonstrated so far to be a 40 point guy. Yes, some of that is linemates and some of it is how he is used, but he has to bear some culpability as well.

I completely disagree with your first statement. Given the other key young forwards - mainly Schenn and Simmonds, the Flyers desperately need a guy who can raise their game. Neither can consistently generate offense for themselves, they both play best around the net, neither is particularly strong on the rush making tape to tape passes. Their fortunes would be considerably raised with a playmaking center.

Consider this. 2 summers ago Holmgren had Schenn and Couturier on the roster, either of whom could have been the 2nd line center. Yet he went out and signed Vinnie to perform that role for at least 3 or 4 years. Now, it obviously didn't work out. But it talks to how the organization views both Schenn and Couturier and their roles. Maybe Hexy sees it differently. But considering where the team is, if he did why wouldn't he demand Berube put either player in that role and leave them there?

- TheGreat28



Expecting Couturier or any player of his caliber to raise the level of play of his linemates in an unreasonable expectation, in my opinion. All that should be expected is for a combination of players to play together and compliment each other to from chemistry with their individual skill sets to form an effective scoring line. There aren;t many players in the NHL who can truly elevate the play of others.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 9 @ 1:41 PM ET
I used to love all of the All-Star games as a kid.

Now, they just seem terrible, for whatever reason.

If you'll excuse me, I'm going to go watch Matlock and tell some kids to get off of my lawn.

- johndewar


I think it's sad that I'm 31, and, since 2008, have had at least one time per year where I've had to scream at kids (or parents, sadly) in my neighborhood.
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Jan 9 @ 1:42 PM ET

- Giroux_Is_God


jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 9 @ 1:42 PM ET
My answer to most philosophical questions is: Who gives a flying (frank)?

That is all

- BiggE


Is that alcohol you're drinking? Or is your mind just thinking it's alcohol?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 9 @ 1:43 PM ET
Expecting Couturier or any player of his caliber to raise the level of play of his linemates in an unreasonable expectation, in my opinion. All that should be expected is for a combination of players to play together and compliment each other to from chemistry with their individual skill sets to form an effective scoring line. There aren;t many players in the NHL who can truly elevate the play of others.
- MJL


But he was drafted #8 overall. The fact that he hasn't gotten AT LEAST one Art Ross so far is really troubling.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 9 @ 1:44 PM ET
Without delving into this too deep:

Yes, the best way to analyze the game is to watch it as well as delve into some of the "advanced" stats. If you want to do that, it's fine (although I've found that most advanced stats just confirm the eye test, but I digress).

However, when some people (as in one whose username rhymes with "Chomahawk") comes in with a new set of advanced stats clubbing the same player every single day, and then engages in a pissing match with someone who disregards most advanced stats (as in one whose username rhymes with MJSmell), then it's just both parties refusing to give an inch and acknowledge any validity of the other side and you get this daily pissing match. And the cycle continues...

- jmatchett383



From my perspective, this is simply not the case. I look at the analytics after each game and look at stats to help see what happened in each game. Someone who disregards them doesn't do that. My issue is how they're used, and what I think the flaws are of the stats, and how much relevance they should be given in the big picture. To say that I dismiss them is simply false.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jan 9 @ 1:45 PM ET
Is that alcohol you're drinking? Or is your mind just thinking it's alcohol?
- jmatchett383


Beats me, can't see thru all the pot smoke
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jan 9 @ 1:45 PM ET
Is that alcohol you're drinking? Or is your mind just thinking it's alcohol?
- jmatchett383

The placebo effect is a real thing dawg
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 9 @ 1:46 PM ET
I don't think I've watched an All Star game in at least 5 years. The fantasy draft is the best part.
- jmatchett383


I hope they light the puck up like they used to
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 9 @ 1:46 PM ET
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jan 9 @ 1:47 PM ET
I think it's sad that I'm 31, and, since 2008, have had at least one time per year where I've had to scream at kids (or parents, sadly) in my neighborhood.
- jmatchett383


I've become THAT GUY that will yell at you for driving too fast through the neighborhood.

A desire to hit the Early Bird specials can't be far for me.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jan 9 @ 1:47 PM ET
I hope they light the puck up like they used to
- PhillySportsGuy

Cmere let's get in the ring. Lemme teach ya how to iron your buttondowns. PUTTEM UP.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jan 9 @ 1:47 PM ET

- PhillySportsGuy

...why is...his face like that it's scary
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 9 @ 1:48 PM ET
Cmere let's get in the ring. Lemme teach ya how to iron your buttondowns. PUTTEM UP.
- Giroux_Is_God


I can picture an old man saying this
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 9 @ 1:48 PM ET
According to TSN, Todd Bertuzzi has signed a 25-game tryout with the Binghamton Senators.

I hope some rookie trying to make a name for himself pulls a Todd Bertuzzi on him.
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