cabin would you come here ? i'm just saying it's confusing you think he want to win a cup
- gerbe75pts

Gorges is 30 years old. He has several solid years left. Besides Toronto, who else truly wanted him? (honest question as I don't have much info) Who knows what the conversation was between Gorges and the Sabres but, I am sure it mentioned the Sabres positive outlook on the future. Similar to what Darcy promised the fans, suffering now but high upside in future

Thank you, ANy rebuilding team would be crazy to trade a first rounder in a deep draft. Enough said
- yen6d1

i"m telling you we will use 2 first , 2nd to move back in the top ten ..

maybe it will be .. McEichel and Pavel Zacha or McEichel , Barzal or

Dave Davis @DaveDavisHockey

Today on Calgary radio, Friedman discussed Stewart's problems in Buffalo & said potential trade partners are getting "scared away" from him.

Dave Davis @DaveDavisHockey

Stewart does have 8 points in his last 12 games, but this team is so bad that I doubt that pace is sustainable.
11:09 AM - 9 Jan 2015
- gerbe75pts

I don't buy it at all.

Are other GM's really that dumb that they can't figure out guys won't produce here?

I said it before when it was told to me, Murray is holding on to these guys for too long and he's asking a lot, it may or may not hurt us.
- SABRES 89

Wasn't that one of the biggest knocks on Regier?

Granted, Murray came out and said that he wanted to send a message that he wasn't going to get pushed around or taken advantage of because he's new at the GM position, but ultimately, what good does it do?

cabin would you come here ? i'm just saying it's confusing you think he want to win a cup
- gerbe75pts

Some are just happy to play in the NHL.

Edit: Simple had a good explaination at the top of this page that could be it too

can coller just shut the (frank) up ..

we will have 4 first after the deadline
- gerbe75pts

Coller is a little 'light in the loafers'.

I don't like anyone on WGR's staff. They're all arrogant and opinionated (I know, they getting paid for their opinions).
I couldn't see myself wanting to sit down with any of them and have a beer. Bulldog used to be alright but he's become 'Schoped'.

Surely Nolan has a strategy other than being ' mentally tough'?
Time for a coaching change?
- strongsupporter

I highly doubt he does, and they should make the change after the draft.

I said it before when it was told to me, Murray is holding on to these guys for too long and he's asking a lot, it may or may not hurt us.
- SABRES 89

ugh...... this is not good

Some are just happy to play in the NHL.
- cabin

that is true ..

you might want to add, imo, a first line that was putting up a bevy of points, a real second line and a top-four on defense that was formidable...

not to take away from stellar goaltending
- Michael Pachla

Goaltending has a way of making everybody look better. It boots team morale and can really cut down your opponent's as well. It's no coincidence that as soon as the goaltending came back down to earth, everything else returned to normal as well.

"Tim Murray held onto the Islanders' pick, Neuvirth and Stewart for too long, it seems. This would be a hash tag just saying"- tweet from matt coller

Idk how i feel about this tweet. He followed up saying how we "knew" the islanders were going to be good and shouldve traded the pick earlier.

I think at this point you just stock pile as many picks as you can and go from there
- yen6d1

he's a big analytics fan...maybe that's what the numbers were telling him...

the isles have cooled since their hot start and other teams are starting to catch up

i"m telling you we will use 2 first , 2nd to move back in the top ten ..

maybe it will be .. McEichel and Pavel Zacha or McEichel , Barzal or
- gerbe75pts

So your saying a team will trade their top 10 pick for 2 very low 1st rounders?

Wasn't that one of the biggest knocks on Regier?

Granted, Murray came out and said that he wanted to send a message that he wasn't going to get pushed around or taken advantage of because he's new at the GM position, but ultimately, what good does it do?
- buffalofan19

If they aren't going to resign these guys, move them. He's going to have to come down on his asking price IMO. But the longer he waits the longer it hurts us.

So your saying a team will trade their top 10 pick for 2 very low 1st rounders?
- MCGUIZZY

2 first round picks , 2nd .. yes i see some team taking that

i think the NYI pick will be around 17 i hope

Wasn't that one of the biggest knocks on Regier?

Granted, Murray came out and said that he wanted to send a message that he wasn't going to get pushed around or taken advantage of because he's new at the GM position, but ultimately, what good does it do?
- buffalofan19

Does anyone really think Stewart has that much value? He has been horrible lazy for most of his career and most likely will never change. He was a cap dump in the Miller trade and if he had any value STL would have traded him well before dumping him on us.

Does anyone really think Stewart has that much value? He has been horrible lazy for most of his career and most likely will never change. He was a cap dump in the Miller trade and if he had any value STL would have traded him well before dumping him on us.
- BigStew

I dont. I think we will be lucky to get a second round pick for him

Does anyone really think Stewart has that much value? He has been horrible lazy for most of his career and most likely will never change. He was a cap dump in the Miller trade and if he had any value STL would have traded him well before dumping him on us.
- BigStew

He has some sort of value, just not a lot.

2nd and a 3rd I see at the deadline

Staff maybe a little more.

GM's realize that these players are stuck on a rebuilding team.

Stewart had 15 goals last deadline when he was traded here and 18 in 48 games the year before, bigger guys that have the ability to score have value

2 first round picks , 2nd .. yes i see some team taking that

i think the NYI pick will be around 17 i hope
- gerbe75pts

Put yourself in another teams shoes. If you had a top ten pick in a draft where the top ten is very strong why would trade that away? I mean it will depend on where the isles and blues end up of coarse but I dont think its as easy of a sell as you make it out to be

Goaltending has a way of making everybody look better. It boots team morale and can really cut down your opponent's as well. It's no coincidence that as soon as the goaltending came back down to earth, everything else returned to normal as well.
- buffalofan19

or it was sent tumbling down to earth because of the numerous prime scoring chances against and little production up front...

again, not disputing goaltending was exceptional but, imo, there's more to the story

Put yourself in another teams shoes. If you had a top ten pick in a draft where the top ten is very strong why would trade that away? I mean it will depend on where the isles and blues end up of coarse but I dont think its as easy of a sell as you make it out to be
- MCGUIZZY

if the player that i want is not gone and i know i can get him in the next 7 picks yes ..

or if the player i want is gone

can coller just shut the (frank) up ..

we will have 4 first after the deadline
- gerbe75pts

I went at it with him on Larsson yesterday. Pointed out a small sample size that I posted here about how in 1 game Varone had 5 shots on goal. While Larsson had 9 in 12. Then he went on and on told me I was wrong. I laugh now cause what happened last night...Varone puts 2 in and Larsson is crying that he is playing in Rochester.
Say what you will about his linemates but Larsson is nothing more than a 3rd or 4th liner. That's who he is going to end up playing with anyway. Varone is making the most of his chance while Larsson did not.

or it was sent tumbling down to earth because of the numerous prime scoring chances against and little production up front...

again, not disputing goaltending was exceptional but, imo, there's more to the story
- Michael Pachla

This is part of it. The team defense overall was pretty good up until Myers, Mitchell, Foligno and Gionta left the lineup.

There have been more penalties, 2 on 1's and just point blank opportunities lately.

That....and Risto and Zads have fallen off a cliff

if the player that i want is not gone and i know i can get him in the next 7 picks yes ..

or if the player i want is gone
- gerbe75pts

So they would take a chance to see if their guy will be there 7 picks later? and this is all based on the ises having the 17th pick? doubt it. And you think a team just has one player in mind and if they are gone they will willingly trade down 10 or more spots? no

Like I said it depends where the ises and blues end up but if they are in the 20's I highly highly doubt they would trade out of the top ten

So they would take a chance to see if their guy will be there 7 picks later? and this is all based on the ises having the 17th pick? doubt it. And you think a team just has one player in mind and if they are gone they will willingly trade down 10 or more spots? no

Like I said it depends where the ises and blues end up but if they are in the 20's I highly highly doubt they would trade out of the top ten
- MCGUIZZY

lots of GMs do this it happens a lot .. they will have a list of 3-4 players and they will trade down to get more picks + they get the player they want

Grigo will be added to a deal is my feeling, TM didn't draft him.

Myers/Grigo to Colorado (Roy likes him and could maybe give him the confidence he needs).

Guys, Myers does still have potential to go along with his size (hence the trade value). I know many think I can't stand him, but there is a reason he has value.