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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 14 @ 8:50 AM ET
And I am arguing that more minutes to MDZ and Coliacovo will increase the amount of 5 on 5 goals allowed because they are not as good defensively as Grossmann and Coburn.
- jmatchett383


You could very well be right. The Flyers are losing a lot of size and physical play there.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jan 14 @ 8:51 AM ET
And I would argue that more minutes to players like MDZ and Coliacovo will increase the amount of 5 on 5 goals allowed.
- jmatchett383


Tonight will be a good test because Schultz-Coburn shut down Ovechkin's line at ES in the last game. Now, apparently, it will be MDZ in place of Coburn and Schultz playing on his off side. So that's a little scary. Not that Schultz-MacDonald would make me any more confident.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jan 14 @ 8:54 AM ET
Also, it was posted on the last blog, but Cedric Paquette thought it was a good idea to get tough with Zdeno Chara. After that, he decided to get tough with Chara at the end of the game, as well. Poor poophead.


- jmatchett383



Well, as much as I hate Edwards, I kind of agree with his assessment.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 14 @ 8:54 AM ET
Tonight will be a good test because Schultz-Coburn shut down Ovechkin's line at ES in the last game. Now, apparently, it will be MDZ in place of Coburn and Schultz playing on his off side. So that's a little scary. Not that Schultz-MacDonald would make me any more confident.
- Feanor


I wouldn't mind seeing a Schultz-MacDonald pairing. I think they'd compliment each other well. MacDonald has been playing solid hockey in the last month or so, and he's going to have to continue to do so, with the absence of Coburn.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jan 14 @ 8:57 AM ET
I think MacDonald's been pretty solid ever since he got taken off the first pairing. Which is why I'm in no hurry to move him back there.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 14 @ 9:01 AM ET
I think MacDonald's been pretty solid ever since he got taken off the first pairing. Which is why I'm in no hurry to move him back there.
- Feanor


I don't disagree with you in the sense that MacDonald is not a player that belongs on the first pair. The problem is that the Flyers don't have a single defenseman who does belong there.
Bill Meltzer
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Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jan 14 @ 9:07 AM ET
I wouldn't mind seeing a Schultz-MacDonald pairing. I think they'd compliment each other well. MacDonald has been playing solid hockey in the last month or so, and he's going to have to continue to do so, with the absence of Coburn.
- MJL


Not sure what the pairing will be tonight yet since neither Streit nor Schultz practiced yesterday. I projected Colaiacovo with L. Schenn mainly because they worked together previously this season and spent much of time on ice yesterday alongside each other.

Bill Meltzer
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Jan 14 @ 9:08 AM ET
Well, as much as I hate Edwards, I kind of agree with his assessment.
- MBFlyerfan



I thought his reaction was unprofessional and way over-the-top.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 14 @ 9:11 AM ET
I thought his reaction was unprofessional and way over-the-top.
- bmeltzer


Kind of par for the course with Edwards. Bruins can do no wrong, it's always the other team that's playing dirty hockey. Keep in mind, this is the same announcer who laughed when Randy Jones got boarded and there was no call. Chara could have easily gotten himself another double-minor before the second altercation.
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Jan 14 @ 9:12 AM ET
So no one can blame me if I watch this game peeking through my fingers, desperately trying to both watch and not watch at the same time.
Do I sound concerned?
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jan 14 @ 9:12 AM ET
I thought his reaction was unprofessional and way over-the-top.
- bmeltzer


Well, the way he delivers it certainly was. Edwards has never had a professional day in his life. But Paquette did throw the first face punch.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 14 @ 9:13 AM ET
Well, the way he delivers it certainly was. Edwards has never had a professional day in his life. But Paquette did throw the first face punch.
- MBFlyerfan


Yes, after Chara threw the first cross check and then threw him down on the ice a plethora of times (blatant interference at 3:11).
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jan 14 @ 9:16 AM ET
Yes, after Chara threw the first cross check and then threw him down on the ice a plethora of times (blatant interference).
- jmatchett383



Really I must have missed that. Chara boards the guy, then Paquett comes over and bumps him, cross check to chest, Paquette throws a punch to Charas face, Chara knocks him out.

We must be watching a different video.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jan 14 @ 9:16 AM ET
Well, as much as I hate Edwards, I kind of agree with his assessment.
- MBFlyerfan


Chara's response was WAY disproportionate to what Paquette did.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jan 14 @ 9:17 AM ET
Kind of par for the course with Edwards. Bruins can do no wrong, it's always the other team that's playing dirty hockey. Keep in mind, this is the same announcer who laughed when Randy Jones got boarded and there was no call. Chara could have easily gotten himself another double-minor before the second altercation.
- jmatchett383


He didn't just laugh, he laughed like a genuinely crazy person.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 14 @ 9:17 AM ET
Really I must have missed that. Chara boards the guy, then Paquett comes over and bumps him, cross check to chest, Paquette throws a punch to Charas face, Chara knocks him out.

We must be watching a different video.

- MBFlyerfan


Sorry, I was talking about the one at the end of the game, not the first incident. My bad.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 14 @ 9:18 AM ET
Well, as much as I hate Edwards, I kind of agree with his assessment.
- MBFlyerfan


I can't even listen to their broadcasts. I will always choose the other team's stream no matter who it is.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 14 @ 9:18 AM ET
He didn't just laugh, he laughed like a genuinely crazy person.
- Feanor


Yeah, it wasn't a chuckle, it was some diabolical evil genius mastermind laugh.

johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jan 14 @ 9:18 AM ET
Really I must have missed that. Chara boards the guy, then Paquett comes over and bumps him, cross check to chest, Paquette throws a punch to Charas face, Chara knocks him out.

We must be watching a different video.

- MBFlyerfan


I didn't see a punch from Paquette. It was more of a shove that got up a little high. I think Paquette had his hands on his stick when he did it.

Chara kinda cocked back and threw an actual punch.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jan 14 @ 9:19 AM ET
Sorry, I was talking about the one at the end of the game, not the first incident. My bad.
- jmatchett383



The second incident was Paquette obviously still suffering brain damage from the first altercation. And yes Edwards is also displaying his abundance of brain damage as well.

We complain about Jackson, but those guys are just on a whole other level of homerism.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 14 @ 9:20 AM ET
I can't even listen to their broadcasts. I will always choose the other team's stream no matter who it is.
- PhillySportsGuy


Now that Rick Jeanneret no longer does Sabres games, I agree.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jan 14 @ 9:22 AM ET
I didn't see a punch from Paquette. It was more of a shove that got up a little high. I think Paquette had his hands on his stick when he did it.

Chara kinda cocked back and threw an actual punch.

- johndewar



Well, I THINK it was a punch.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 14 @ 9:22 AM ET
Well, I THINK it was a punch.

- MBFlyerfan


Look, we're here to discuss the facts. Your opinion is irrelevant.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
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Jan 14 @ 9:24 AM ET
Now that Rick Jeanneret no longer does Sabres games, I agree.
- jmatchett383


Pittsburgh's crew is pretty bad too.

The canadian crews are probably the best. They will actually criticize their own teams.

I always felt the Flyers have done a disservice to their own fans by never really criticizing their own players. There are so many fans who just thinks X player sucks or Y player is great because he scores some goals.

It was kind of nice to see Keith Jones discuss Matt Read's inability to neutralize Stamkos' stick on the his PP goal.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jan 14 @ 9:26 AM ET
Pittsburgh's crew is pretty bad too.

The canadian crews are probably the best. They will actually criticize their own teams.

I always felt the Flyers have done a disservice to their own fans by never really criticizing their own players. There are so many fans who just thinks X player sucks or Y player is great because he scores some goals.

It was kind of nice to see Keith Jones discuss Matt Read's inability to neutralize Stamkos' stick on the his PP goal.

- PhillySportsGuy


I can't stand Pittsburgh's crew at all. I don't hear much of Jack Edwards, but I know he's awful.
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