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PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jan 15 @ 9:47 AM ET
Nope. The Flyers will enter the last day of the season 1 point behind both Edmonton and Carolina. Trailing 1-0 in the 3rd, Lecavalier will score with 30 seconds left to send the game to OT. Umberger will score in the 12th round of the shootout, giving the Flyers a 1-0 shootout win and winning the game 2-1 and giving them a 3rd place finish. New Jersey will win the lottery and the Flyers will pick 4th.
- jmatchett383


It's not that far fetched.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 15 @ 9:49 AM ET
I get that everyone wants to appear impartial for some reason, but the hit on Laughton was clearly not a "clean" hit. Niskanen jumped into Laughton, while aiming high, and left the ice while making the hit.

If Rinaldo did this, everyone would be talking about how long his suspension should be.

- hobo


I've only seen it once, but it looked clean to me. I'm glad the Flyers didn't overreact and get a 17-minute penalty the way that McQuaid did after the Schultz hit on Paille.

Edit: Just watched the replay. His feet were on the ice when contact was made, and the PPOC was the chest. It was just a hard, clean hit.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jan 15 @ 9:49 AM ET
I get that everyone wants to appear impartial for some reason, but the hit on Laughton was clearly not a "clean" hit. Niskanen jumped into Laughton, while aiming high, and left the ice while making the hit.
- hobo


I freeze framed it, and his feet were on the ice when contact was made. And it was shoulder to chest contact. Take the orange glasses off.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 15 @ 9:50 AM ET
This team is just bad in every way. Hextall's lack of, well doing anything really, is going to start making me miss Holmgren. His only trade was bad, and his inactivity isn't helping anyone.
- twpguy



In my opinon, Hextall being inactive is a good thing, not a bad thing. The worst thing he could do is overreact to the team's current status. Make the right moves, not just moves.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jan 15 @ 9:51 AM ET
This team is just bad in every way. Hextall's lack of, well doing anything really, is going to start making me miss Holmgren. His only trade was bad, and his inactivity isn't helping anyone.
- twpguy


While I understand your frustration, Hextall inherited a cap nightmare and some equally nightmarish contracts for marginal players. Not a whole lot he can do. Besides, who that would help the team is available right now anyway? It's going to be a long sucky process to dig out of the hole they are in.
hobo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.20.2008

Jan 15 @ 9:52 AM ET
I freeze framed it, and his feet were on the ice when contact was made. And it was shoulder to chest contact. Take the orange glasses off.
- Feanor


Nope - you're wrong.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jan 15 @ 9:53 AM ET
This team is just bad in every way. Hextall's lack of, well doing anything really, is going to start making me miss Holmgren. His only trade was bad, and his inactivity isn't helping anyone.
- twpguy


If you feel so strongly about it voice it at your next STH meeting
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jan 15 @ 9:53 AM ET
I get that everyone wants to appear impartial for some reason, but the hit on Laughton was clearly not a "clean" hit. Niskanen jumped into Laughton, while aiming high, and left the ice while making the hit.

- hobo


Is there a clip of this anywhere?
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jan 15 @ 9:54 AM ET
I get that everyone wants to appear impartial for some reason, but the hit on Laughton was clearly not a "clean" hit. Niskanen jumped into Laughton, while aiming high, and left the ice while making the hit.

If Rinaldo did this, everyone would be talking about how long his suspension should be.

- hobo


I thought it was clean. Berube, in his post game remarks, thought it was clean.

I think if the players thought it was less than clean, they would have run Niskanen.

The only thing that bugged me was folks comparing it to a Scott Stevens hit. Scott Stevens hits were typically head high and with his elbows up, so, this was not a Scott Stevens hit.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 15 @ 9:54 AM ET
Nope - you're wrong.
- hobo



It was a clean hit. Sucks that he got hurt, but a clean hit.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jan 15 @ 9:55 AM ET
Is there a clip of this anywhere?
- Scoob


It happened with 2:53 left in the 2nd.

Crying about a clean hit should be beneath Flyers fans.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jan 15 @ 9:55 AM ET
This team is just bad in every way. Hextall's lack of, well doing anything really, is going to start making me miss Holmgren. His only trade was bad, and his inactivity isn't helping anyone.
- twpguy


Hextall's hands are kind of tied at the moment. He's inherited so many bad contracts he's kind of limited in what he can do. Do you want him to make transactions just for the sake of making them? I'm encouraged by his patience. The fact he isn't throwing assets away for band-aids is a good sign.
hobo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.20.2008

Jan 15 @ 9:55 AM ET
Is there a clip of this anywhere?
- Scoob



https://vine.co/v/OD0lHLMQWj9
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jan 15 @ 9:55 AM ET
While I understand your frustration, Hextall inherited a cap nightmare and some equally nightmarish contracts for marginal players. Not a whole lot he can do. Besides, who that would help the team is available right now anyway? It's going to be a long sucky process to dig out of the hole they are in.
- Scoob


If there were no salary cap, this would all be easy, right?
rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Jan 15 @ 9:56 AM ET
when guys like niskinnen decide to lay a hit like that against you it makes me laugh; it was a clean hit by the way.

he rarely hits and he knows the fact the flyers are soft to play against he doesnt have to worry about anyone coming after him. you think he makes a hit like that against the ducks or bruins?

this team has many issues. this may be the softest team I have ever seen in recent memory. They are far to easy to play against.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jan 15 @ 9:57 AM ET
Anyone else getting unceremoniously redirected from the blog to this ad?

http://lemode-mgz.com/sc/...=u&fu=4&bc=1&ifi=1&dtd=25


Really FRANKING annoying
hobo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.20.2008

Jan 15 @ 9:58 AM ET
I thought it was clean. Berube, in his post game remarks, thought it was clean.

I think if the players thought it was less than clean, they would have run Niskanen.

The only thing that bugged me was folks comparing it to a Scott Stevens hit. Scott Stevens hits were typically head high and with his elbows up, so, this was not a Scott Stevens hit.

- johndewar


I think that's the thing - because nobody made a big deal about it, it didn't get overanalyzed. But he clearly leaves the ice, and clearly impacts the head with his shoulder.
I'm not saying it was all that dirty, or suspension-worthy, but it should have been called a penalty.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jan 15 @ 9:58 AM ET
when guys like niskinnen decide to lay a hit like that against you it makes me laugh; it was a clean hit by the way.

he rarely hits and he knows the fact the flyers are soft to play against he doesnt have to worry about anyone coming after him. you think he makes a hit like that against the ducks or bruins?

this team has many issues. this may be the softest team I have ever seen in recent memory. They are far to easy to play against.

- rinaldo


I'm kinda glad they didn't try to get any revenge in this game. It's a long season and they'll see Niskanen again.
rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Jan 15 @ 9:58 AM ET
While I understand your frustration, Hextall inherited a cap nightmare and some equally nightmarish contracts for marginal players. Not a whole lot he can do. Besides, who that would help the team is available right now anyway? It's going to be a long sucky process to dig out of the hole they are in.
- Scoob

call up white, stortini, and rosehill. make that your 4th line. at least they will play hard and show some compete level.

time to dump what you can and if that means waivers so be it.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jan 15 @ 9:59 AM ET
https://vine.co/v/OD0lHLMQWj9
- hobo


Thanks. I can see how in real time it might have appeared unclean, but from that clip it looks clean to me.
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Jan 15 @ 9:59 AM ET
https://vine.co/v/OD0lHLMQWj9
- hobo


I freezed it and it looked like his feet were on the ice and the main point of contact wasn't Laughton's head. I don't think Niskanen has been suspended before either.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jan 15 @ 9:59 AM ET
Yep.
- PLindbergh31


Unquote me, you broke the page!
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Jan 15 @ 10:01 AM ET
Thanks. I can see how in real time it might have appeared unclean, but from that clip it looks clean to me.
- Scoob


yeah when I saw it in real-time it looked borderline dirty but when I paused the video, it was fairly clear that he didn't quite leave the ice or meet Laughton's head with his shoulder.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jan 15 @ 10:04 AM ET
We trade Emery for a washing machine yet?
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Jan 15 @ 10:05 AM ET
This team is just bad in every way. Hextall's lack of, well doing anything really, is going to start making me miss Holmgren. His only trade was bad, and his inactivity isn't helping anyone.
- twpguy



I disagree, the last thing Hexy should do is make knee jerk moves.
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