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-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jan 15 @ 11:32 AM ET
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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 15 @ 11:33 AM ET
When is Niskanen's hearing?
- flyerscup2011


There won't be a hearing.
flyerscup2011
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Future lottery winner
Joined: 06.21.2010

Jan 15 @ 11:33 AM ET
There won't be a hearing.
- MJL


That's bullpoop!
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 15 @ 11:34 AM ET
That's bullpoop!
- flyerscup2011



It was a clean hit.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 15 @ 11:34 AM ET
I don't particularly find it reliable either, for some of the reasons you mentioned... but it's still pretty significant when every line seems to get worse when Raffl leaves it, right? (numbers corroborated by eyeballs)
- Tomahawk


When it tends to be most reliable, it's when its showing a pretty universal trend.

If you have a guy who is consistently improving WOWYs across the board, he's doing something right. He migh not be driving it, but whatever is happening, is consistent. In the case of a guy like Voarcek or Giroux, it's likely because they are driving the train.

In Raffl's case I think it's because he's a smart guy, who reads the play well, and does, as you said before, the little things. He can adapt his game and fit anywhere, like a Swiss Army Winger
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jan 15 @ 11:34 AM ET
Schenn has been in a goal scoring slump regardless of where he plays. I put it on the player, not the coach. I'm far more concerned about lines 2-3 then I am about the 1st line, as I'm sure everybody is.
- MJL



I understand that. That is why i think Berube is allowing Schenn to stay on the top line hopeing he can get out of it. It also helps moving forward having a producing Schenn. Nothing against Raffl but I want my tops guys playing well. They need Schenn producing
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
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Joined: 02.04.2009

Jan 15 @ 11:34 AM ET
I like Raffl, and think he is a good player, but he is not an offensive catalyst. I think there's lots of reasons why lines fluctuate in play. I don't think the line of Simmonds/Laughton/Raffl has been that good. I thnk Laughton's game away from the puck is NHL caliber, but I don't think he's quite ready with the puck for a 2nd line center role.
- MJL


Yeah, he's not the meat, he's not the potatoes, he's the gravy -- just brings everything together.

Laughts has a ways to go, but I suspect L2 is about to get worse while he's out.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 15 @ 11:35 AM ET
I don't particularly find it reliable either, for some of the reasons you mentioned... but it's still pretty significant when every line seems to get worse when Raffl leaves it, right? (numbers corroborated by eyeballs)
- Tomahawk


He's just a good player. He's been making everyone around him better ever since he was called up last year. Supremely undervalued imo
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 15 @ 11:36 AM ET
Yeah, he's not the meat, he's not the potatoes, he's the gravy -- just brings everything together.

Laughts has a ways to go, but I suspect L2 is about to get worse while he's out.

- Tomahawk



Depends on who they put there. They could go with a two headed monster. I think that line could produce more goals, but worse possession if they put Lecavalier there. If they put Bellemare there, less goals, but better possesion. They could alternate based on matchups, game situations, etc.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 15 @ 11:36 AM ET
Yeah, he's not the meat, he's not the potatoes, he's the gravy -- just brings everything together.

Laughts has a ways to go, but I suspect L2 is about to get worse while he's out.

- Tomahawk


Theres not a good option with Laughton out, really
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 15 @ 11:39 AM ET
Theres not a good option with Laughton out, really
- Jsaquella


Remember when we complained about having too many centers
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
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Joined: 02.04.2009

Jan 15 @ 11:41 AM ET
Depends on who they put there. They could go with a two headed monster. I think that line could produce more goals, but worse possession if they put Lecavalier there. If they put Bellemare there, less goals, but better possesion. They could alternate based on matchups, game situations, etc.
- MJL


Agreed.

If I'm Chief, I'm re-shuffling the whole deck:

Raffl - G - Jake
Schenn - Coots - Simmer
Umby/Rinaldo - Bellemare - Read
Rinaldo/Umby - Vinny - VDV <-- Shelter
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jan 15 @ 11:41 AM ET
I like that shakeup so long as its Umberger on the 3rd line, not Zac.

Theres not a good option with Laughton out, really
- Jsaquella


I'd put Bellemare with Raffl and Simmonds, call up White to center VDV and Vinny, and stop giving the 4th line so many minutes and Off. ZOoe starts since their best player will now be on the 2nd scoring line.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 15 @ 11:42 AM ET
Remember when we complained about having too many centers
- PhillySportsGuy


The issue is we have to move a center off wing and weaken other lines lol
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
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Jan 15 @ 11:43 AM ET
He's just a good player. He's been making everyone around him better ever since he was called up last year. Supremely undervalued imo
- PhillySportsGuy


Yup yup.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jan 15 @ 11:44 AM ET
Theres not a good option with Laughton out, really
- Jsaquella



I would maybe go with this


Schenn - Giroux - Voracek
Raffl - Vinny - Simmonds
Read - Couturier - Umberger
Bellemare - White - Vandevelde/Rinaldo
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 15 @ 11:45 AM ET
I like that shakeup so long as its Umberger on the 3rd line, not Zac.



I'd put Bellemare with Raffl and Simmonds, call up White to center VDV and Vinny, and stop giving the 4th line so many minutes and Off. ZOoe starts since their best player will now be on the 2nd scoring line.

- Feanor


That's not bad. I might go with something similar, maybe :

12-28-93
78-10-17
18-14-24
76-White-40

Just tossing out ideas, though.
I'd really like to get Schenn at center after seeing his snipe against the Lighning.
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Jan 15 @ 11:46 AM ET
So are we assuming Emery is starting or is that confirmed?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jan 15 @ 11:48 AM ET
So are we assuming Emery is starting or is that confirmed?
- FlyersGrace


Have seen no confirmation, but back to back, Zepp saw a lot of rubber last night, no sense in not going with Ray
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Jan 15 @ 11:49 AM ET
Yeah, he's not the meat, he's not the potatoes, he's the gravy -- just brings everything together.

Laughts has a ways to go, but I suspect L2 is about to get worse while he's out.

- Tomahawk



he's the mother sauce
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
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Joined: 02.04.2009

Jan 15 @ 11:51 AM ET
he's the mother sauce
- -davies-


Thanks Escoffier

J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jan 15 @ 11:51 AM ET
Have seen no confirmation, but back to back, Zepp saw a lot of rubber last night, no sense in not going with Ray
- Jsaquella



I have a feeling zepp is going to see a majority of these games. i think he goes tonight again
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jan 15 @ 11:52 AM ET
The issue is we have to move a center off wing and weaken other lines lol
- Jsaquella


Couturier won't see an offensive zone start until Laughton comes back
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jan 15 @ 11:52 AM ET
I have a feeling zepp is going to see a majority of these games. i think he goes tonight again
- J35Bacher


Possible. I'd play him a ton & try to trade Emery as soon as Mason returned.
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Jan 15 @ 11:52 AM ET
Thanks Escoffier
- Tomahawk



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