Same to you...... The fact is NOTHING happened when Orr and the like were here. It changes nothing.


You haven't made any significant point. Your opinion is not fact.
- burn

Its better to have the goon on your team, than the other team.

If you didn't win then you didn't have offense . . .. or defense for that matter.
There is no way you could improve even if you lost.
You should always speak in absolutes!
- Cfser

That's the whole point of the statistic. That PDOs significantly higher or lower than 1.00 are a result of luck and over time will move closer to 1.00.
- 1979AD

I stole it from google.

Except they'd be scoring 1/10 the amout and getting score on 10X as much..... but yeah they'd be no worse.



- burn

Thats not true

Fair enough, I just know when we went on that little streak, the fourth line, and really all the lines were healthy. It looked like the team that was on paper. Then Holland got hurt and others, and voila, we're back to being a one line team, now trying to learn a new system.
- mykokes

I think the little streak was the same anomaly we've seen in years past...

Its better to have the goon on your team, than the other team.
- TincupCanuck

Who's the goon on the other team??

Who's the goon on the other team??
- burn

Brendan Gallagher

Its better to have the goon on your team, than the other team.
- TincupCanuck

No it isn't.

Brendan Gallagher
- WaterBoy

Who's the goon on the other team??
- burn

The team playing against you

When was the last time the Ducks beat us?
- Garnie

2008 I think I heard.

made the playoffs

fact
- Garnie

HH's "Bozak rules" argument!

No it isn't.
- BINGO!

Maybe not from your couch...but the players like it.

Thats not true
- TincupCanuck

how?

Who's the goon on the other team??
- burn

Goon's not the answer, but big strong and nasty is.

You can call it whatever you want Goon/Lucic but most Cup finalists have a tough guy or a bunch of tough guys.

how?
- burn

Your facts are off.

When was the last time the Ducks beat us?
- Garnie

Couple years ago?

Goon's not the answer, but big strong and nasty is.

You can call it whatever you want Goon/Lucic but most Cup finalists have a tough guy or a bunch of tough guys.
- Garnie

Pretty sure Kessel and the goalies would like protection. Burn feels safe sitting on his couch though.

HH's "Bozak rules" argument!
- 1979AD

Some people can only handle fact's found on the internet.

Couple years ago?
- Cfser

I was just teasing..but they hadn't beat us in a long time.

Goon's not the answer, but big strong and nasty is.

You can call it whatever you want Goon/Lucic but most Cup finalists have a tough guy or a bunch of tough guys.
- Garnie

Well we've gone from talking about orr and other goons that are needed, to saying the Leafs need big tough guys like Lucic.

These are miles apart. not even remotely close to the same examples.

Goon's not the answer, but big strong and nasty is.

You can call it whatever you want Goon/Lucic but most Cup finalists have a tough guy or a bunch of tough guys.
- Garnie

I was just teasing..but they hadn't beat us in a long time.
- Garnie

Seems more the exception then the rule when you compare the two teams

Except they'd be scoring 1/10 the amout and getting score on 10X as much..... but yeah they'd be no worse.



- burn

If they were so bloody bad how did the Leafs make the playoffs with 2 of them on the 4th line?... This would also mean they should have a terrible plus minus no? Orr was pretty average when he was in the line-up interns of what was given up when he played... Orr is so bad that in a 7 game playoff series against Boston where he played around 7.5 mins a game he was not he ice for 1 more goal against than for... Stop exaggerating to prove your OPINION...

Well we've gone from talking about orr and other goons that are needed, to saying the Leafs need big tough guys like Lucic.

These are miles apart. not even remotely close to the same examples.
- burn

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