Even Brad May and some folks on the NHL network have said it, some players on this team aren't " playing " and it's gone on to long. They just don't seem to get it yet, they will when they are gone.
- SABRES 89

Stewart, Stafford, Hodgson(will be hard to trade), Mez(if anybody would want him), Is who im hoping to see gone at the deadline.

I can see Stafford getting a really good return even more so if buffalo eats 3 mil of 4 mil cap hit..
- Therat36

most you can eat is 50%.

Yes, and I have also admitted to as much Gil.
- BuffaloHardHat

You know I cringed when you said Nolan was a great coach and a great person. Perhaps he has evolved and groan up but I heard things back in his previous stint with the Sabres that would counter that. I won't get into the person part that I know but the coaching part I will. One reason Muckler wasn't so high on Nolan then was because he would have assistants run too many practices for reasons I won't get into.

Why can't you see it? he brought in Nolan he didn't have to bring him back but he did, why can't you seem to figure that out. Nobody forced Murray to offer Nolan the deal.
- SABRES 89

No I can figure it out. I can also see that Nolan is a goner within 2 years. Problem is people have an emotional attachment to him therefore he can do no wrong. Same with Lafontaine.
Same reason why people loved Lindy Ruff despite him being incompetent.

IMO, we need to give Nolan and Murray a chance to see what will happen going forward after this year, most knew this year would be bad so lets wait and see. I'd like to see what Murray does at the trade deadline.
- SABRES 89

I wouldn't be surprised if Nolan stepped down before the end of the season.

Nolan keeps getting tools like Hodgson, Meszaros and Benoit shoved in his face and he has no idea what to do any longer with guys that have already packed their bags.
Nolan looks exhausted and frustrated at recent press conferences.
Even catching himself the other night "to not say the wrong thing".

Look at this roster he has been given , especially with the "additions" genius Murray made prior to the season.

I mean seriously look at it.

An NHL roster doesn't get much more pathetic looking than that.

Wow!

most you can eat is 50%.
- dadeadhead

Still not bad.. For a team that's in cap hell and does not wanna deal a roster player

You know I cringed when you said Nolan was a great coach and a great person. Perhaps he has evolved and groan up but I heard things back in his previous stint with the Sabres that would counter that. I won't get into the person part that I know but the coaching part I will. One reason Muckler wasn't so high on Nolan then was because he would have assistants run too many practices for reasons I won't get into.
- GilPerreault11

Yes, that may be true Gil but perhaps that has grown as well.
It's hard to argue with the success that has followed him every where he has coached.
I don't buy into this speculation that Teddy has been carried everywhere by one thing or another.
Funny , not one player that has ever played under him has ever had a bad word to say about him .
The only thing they ever say is that he is a great coach.

He is obviously not coaching with his eyes closed or has not throughout the years.
We all learn every day in our respective fields, or we should because none of us know everything.

By the way, Ted is a super guy, but that's my opinion just like everything else I have said here.

Still not bad.. For a team that's in cap hell and does not wanna deal a roster player
- Therat36

I think we get 3 of those. None used now. Could be a nice sweetener.

I wouldn't be surprised if Nolan stepped down before the end of the season.

Nolan keeps getting tools like Hodgson, Meszaros and Benoit shoved in his face and he has no idea what to do any longer with guys that have already packed their bags.
Nolan looks exhausted and frustrated at recent press conferences.
Even catching himself the other night "to not say the wrong thing".

Look at this roster he has been given , especially with the "additions" genius Murray made prior to the season.

I mean seriously look at it.

An NHL roster doesn't get much more pathetic looking than that.

Wow!
- BuffaloHardHat

And walk away from that big fat paycheck? Hardhat what are you smoking?

And walk away from that big fat paycheck? Hardhat what are you smoking?



- Maximum Signal

Trust me, money isn't everything.
Pride means more to people with character and certain life values.
Not to mention self respect.

Yes, that may be true Gil but perhaps that has grown as well.
It's hard to argue with the success that has followed him every where he has coached.

He is obviously not coaching with his eyes closed or has not throughout the years.
We all learn every day in our respective fields, or we should because none of us know everything.

By the way, Ted is a super guy, but that's my opinion just like everything else I have said here.
- BuffaloHardHat

He is a wonderful humanitarian . What he he has done on the philanthropic side with Native north Americans is to be highly regarded.. As far as his coaching . He was given Lemons and he has tried his best to make lemonade. Who cares if he has lost the room . He is not going into the Hall of fame. Why does everyone keep forgetting the goal this season when they scream for his firing?

He also knew exactly what he signed up for , so please don't give me the poor betrayed Ted song either.

Trust me, money isn't everything.
Pride means more to people with character and certain life values.
Not to mention self respect.
- BuffaloHardHat

"Six weeks after Nolan lost the Buffalo job, Phil Esposito offered him the head coaching position in Tampa Bay. Nolan rejected him. And while he contends that this was due to the fact that the area didn't have adequate hockey programs for his talented sons, Esposito seems to have a different take on it.

In television and print interviews, Esposito has implied that money was the issue, and that at a time when Tampa was struggling financially due to incompetent ownership and a huge Chris Gratton contract, Nolan demanded a salary of $750,000 - more than what any coach, including Scotty Bowman, made in ‘97. Eventually Jacques Demers, who had better credentials, took the job for $350,000."

Trust me, money isn't everything.
Pride means more to people with character and certain life values.
Not to mention self respect.
- BuffaloHardHat

Whoever says Money cannot buy happiness. is shopping at the wrong stores. And at least with money you can choose your favorite type of misery! He gets fired he gets all three years of his contract . Walks away and gets nothing . If he walks away do you think he ever gets a shot in the NHL again? He gets fired and he will at least be in the conversation.

"Six weeks after Nolan lost the Buffalo job, Phil Esposito offered him the head coaching position in Tampa Bay. Nolan rejected him. And while he contends that this was due to the fact that the area didn't have adequate hockey programs for his talented sons, Esposito seems to have a different take on it.

In television and print interviews, Esposito has implied that money was the issue, and that at a time when Tampa was struggling financially due to incompetent ownership and a huge Chris Gratton contract, Nolan demanded a salary of $750,000 - more than what any coach, including Scotty Bowman, made in ‘97. Eventually Jacques Demers, who had better credentials, took the job for $350,000."
- Cheeseballin

Nothing wrong at all with getting what you feel you are worth.

Stewart, Stafford, Hodgson(will be hard to trade), Mez(if anybody would want him), Is who im hoping to see gone at the deadline.
- Cheeseballin

Mez could have been gone already to the Jets or the Ducks, the Ducks choose to go with Eric Brewer and the Jets offered us a pick or TJ Galiardi and Murray declined.

Nothing wrong at all with getting what you feel you are worth.
- BuffaloHardHat

"Money isn't everything"- BuffaloHardHat two posts ago...

So which is it my man. I thought Nolan was all about self-respect, not money

I understand this team has a AHL roster. I also understand that the goal is to tank.

I do not understand why its okay to defend a coach so much when nobody defended Rolston...

Same situation the goal is to tank.

Why is it poor Teddy? But it wasn't poor Ron?

Rolston obviously is not a NHL coach. But the argument still remains.

TM is doing what he needs to do with the team Darcy built...suffer through another year and go from there.

Nolan signed up for this, he knew what he was getting into

Mez could have been gone already to the Jets or the Ducks, the Ducks choose to go with Eric Brewer and the Jets offered us a pick or TJ Galiardi and Murray declined.
- SABRES 89

Well that is like trading crap for different crap. Eh

I understand this team has a AHL roster. I also understand that the goal is to tank.

I do not understand why its okay to defend a coach so much when nobody defended Rolston...

Same situation the goal is to tank.

Why is it poor Teddy? But it wasn't poor Ron?

Rolston obviously is not a NHL coach. But the argument still remains.

TM is doing what he needs to do with the team Darcy built...suffer through another year and go from there.
- Stripes77

Because Ron was not a worshipped Buffalo Icon?

Teddy isn't a quitter and doesn't pride himself off of building a reputation upon everyone else's hard work unlike Murray.
Teddy has built himself, again unlike Murray living off of his Uncles reputation.

I have no respect for the douchebag right now, none!

If he gives Teddy an earnest shot next season with a roster of real NHL er's then my opinion of him may change a little.
I still don't like the sissy way this organization is going about trying to build a winner and I will never agree with it.
People with pride normally don't like this sissy method , that's why Patty left, I am sure of it.
- BuffaloHardHat

Again, are you serious?

Murray has been here a year. Most of these guys are Regier's guys. It takes time to build a winner. Anyone who knows anything about hockey SHOULD KNOW THAT.

Did you expect Murray to trade Stafford for Toews or deal Weber for Keith?

Oh. And poor, poor Teddy. Guess what? No one forced him to sign the deal. He knew what was going on here, and if he didn't, he's an idiot.

Well that is like trading crap for different crap. Eh
- Cheeseballin

We have to many TJ Galiardi's on this team already, I would have taken the pick for Mez , they offered that as well. It was a pick or a player.

Once there it more talent on the team, if Nolan does a good job, keep him. If he doesn't, get someone else in who can. Its not that hard of a decision IMO.

Whoever says Money is not everything is shopping at the wrong stores. And at least with money you can choose your favorite type of misery! He gets fired he gets all three years of his contract . Walks away and gets nothing . If he walks away do you think he ever gets a shot in the NHL again? He gets fired and he will at least be in the conversation.
- Maximum Signal

Max, I have a bit of money.

Doesn't make me happy. My family and my close friends make me happy, not money.

Money is only important to the material people of the world, the people that need it to create a false 'status' for themselves.

Money does not make you happy, sorry but for a fact I can tell you that you are wrong.

Sorry but all day every day I'd rather walk away with my self respect and pride than the money.

Different strokes for different folk and that is what makes this world a fairly interesting place to dwell.

Again, are you serious?

Murray has been here a year. Most of these guys are Regier's guys. It takes time to build a winner. Anyone who knows anything about hockey SHOULD KNOW THAT.

Did you expect Murray to trade Stafford for Toews or deal Weber for Keith?

Oh. And poor, poor Teddy. Guess what? No one forced him to sign the deal. He knew what was going on here, and if he didn't, he's an idiot.
- grand-magus

You missed much of the conversation but you are free to type in CAPS LOCK whatever you feel necessary.

We have to many TJ Galiardi's on this team already, I would have taken the pick for Mez , they offered that as well. It was a pick or a player.
- SABRES 89

Wouldn't we need to take back salary though? We need his cap hit to stay above the cap floor. I don't seee how we could just trade him for a pick straight up