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BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jan 17 @ 1:57 PM ET
Who's in!?

Flyers Drinking Game
Take a shot/mouthful of beer if:
• MacDonald has a gaffe that results in a GA
• A scrub who never scores (like Gomez) or a former Flyer or a slumping player scores
• A team that is slumping beats philly
• A backup goalie shuts them out.
• An AHL goalie shuts them out (double drinks!)
• Referee Dave Jackson waves off a goal.
• An NHL rookie gets his first NHL goal.
• Umberger loses a board battle.
• They blow a 2 goal lead.
• They lose in a shootout.
• Flyers spend a full minute in their end

- xShoot4WarAmpsx


You'll be dead of alcohol poisoning before the end of the 2nd period
hogweed
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.01.2013

Jan 17 @ 2:00 PM ET
Acid laced meth is a thing. It's called hugs and kisses.
- Giroux_Is_God

that was the mixture in the hbo series 'true detective'
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Jan 17 @ 2:13 PM ET
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/sports/flyers/Timonens-blood-clots-not-all-gone-future-in-question.html


Berube staying. Hextall reiterated that Berube is not the reason for the Flyers' poor season and that he has no plans to replace him.

- MJL



No issues with this..
You could have Scotty Bowman with Mike Babcock and Jack Bauer as coach of the team and the way it is currently built still doesn't win them anything.

To me the coach is about the 5 most important issue on the team to fix, (behind more ice time for Rimaldo LOL, defense, top line winger, consistent offense from someone not named Giroux or Voracek)
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Jan 17 @ 2:47 PM ET
This game is going to be god awful
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jan 17 @ 2:53 PM ET
This game is going to be god awful
- mochoson


Ha! Have to admit, this could be far more true than any of us who plan to watch it would like
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jan 17 @ 3:25 PM ET
I hope they win and hope just as much that they lose #tank #tanknation #mcdavid #eichel #hanifin #sweeps #NHLdraft2015 #lotterypick #masonshurt #tankadelphia #gottabebadatleastoncetobegood #hockey #hashtag
- Giroux_Is_God


I am in the same boat and it is not right. The draft system is messed up. Check out this article by Dave Hodge: http://www.tsn.ca/talent/...-down-to-tanking-1.185037


Something needs to change because NO one LIKES routing against their own team.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jan 17 @ 3:32 PM ET
Top 3 keys to losing this game please
- ob18

1. play coburn
2. play mason
3. let buffalo skate in the offensive zone
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jan 17 @ 3:39 PM ET
I am in the same boat and it is not right. The draft system is messed up. Check out this article by Dave Hodge: http://www.tsn.ca/talent/...-down-to-tanking-1.185037


Something needs to change because NO one LIKES routing against their own team.

- coffee junkie

Oh please. What other way is there to do it?

This is the best system. It protects the parity. It's not broken so don't fix it.

No one in here is rooting against the flyers. There's a difference between wanting your team to lose and not caring if they lose.
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jan 17 @ 3:43 PM ET
Oh please. What other way is there to do it?

This is the best system. It protects the parity. It's not broken so don't fix it.

No one in here is rooting against the flyers. There's a difference between wanting your team to lose and not caring if they lose.

- Giroux_Is_God

Is this sarcastic or are you an ass? Hard to tell.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jan 17 @ 3:51 PM ET
Is this sarcastic or are you an ass? Hard to tell.
- coffee junkie

No...I'm serious.

Giving all 14 non playoff teams an equal shot at the top pick is not ok. At all. That could destroy franchises, simply by being unlucky.

The way it is now- inverse order of the standings, more or less, is the best way there is. Like I said- to protect parity. The 12th worst team in the league shouldn't have a shot at the best prospect in the draft. It's not even close to fair.
black_francis
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bumfuck, NJ
Joined: 01.10.2015

Jan 17 @ 3:55 PM ET
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Jan 17 @ 4:00 PM ET
Is this sarcastic or are you an ass? Hard to tell.
- coffee junkie


I hate tanking but what really can you do? How is a team like buffalo suppose to get better if they don't get 1st shot at the draft? Trading is dead in the league. Without the bottom team getting a high pick, they are likely sitting at the bottom of the league for a long time
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Jan 17 @ 4:02 PM ET
1. play coburn
2. play mason
3. let buffalo skate in the offensive zone

- 2Real



No need to over think.

1. Flyers arrive at rink.
Yosimar89
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 05.11.2010

Jan 17 @ 4:04 PM ET
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/sports/flyers/Timonens-blood-clots-not-all-gone-future-in-question.html


Berube staying. Hextall reiterated that Berube is not the reason for the Flyers' poor season and that he has no plans to replace him.

- MJL

Perfect!

Keep him the entire season so we can get a better chance at the 1st pick, Hextall is a smart man!

aflyerpower8
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: AL
Joined: 06.03.2014

Jan 17 @ 4:07 PM ET
No need to over think.

1. Flyers arrive at rink.

- opeth_pa


I think it would be much easier to do

1. Flyers don't arrive at rink
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 17 @ 4:08 PM ET
I hate tanking but what really can you do? How is a team like buffalo suppose to get better if they don't get 1st shot at the draft? Trading is dead in the league. Without the bottom team getting a high pick, they are likely sitting at the bottom of the league for a long time
- xShoot4WarAmpsx


Look at Edmonton, in the last 8 drafts they've selected 3rd, 7th, 1st, 1st, 1st, 10th, 6th, and 22nd. Yet they still suck, and are in position for the first overall pick again.
Yosimar89
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 05.11.2010

Jan 17 @ 4:09 PM ET
Saw the highlights of the Phantoms game, 1st sweet orange jerseys.

Stolarz looks huge in net, and the goal by Cousins was awesome! Partial breakaway he knows if he keeps skating and tries to get closer to the goalie the defense will get there faster, so he just rears back and rips a laser of a slapshot over the glove side shoulder of Clemmensen, who probably didn't see it just heard the sound of it as it passed by his ear

Good to see that Cousins seems to be improving after a kid of disappointing year for him offensively last year.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 17 @ 4:13 PM ET
Hell, I'm one of Berube's harsher critics and even I wouldn't replace him now.

And if I was GM, I'd tell the beat guys that I was gonna keep him as coach for at least another year. Zero need to tip your hand in public, especially with this media group.

I'm amazed that they haven't turned Mason into the second coming o Cechmanek or Bryzgalov yet, because he's made statements after games about the team playing better and needing to work harder.

If Bryz said that, correct or not, he'd be strung up by the media that covers this team,
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 17 @ 4:14 PM ET
Saw the highlights of the Phantoms game, 1st sweet orange jerseys.

Stolarz looks huge in net, and the goal by Cousins was awesome! Partial breakaway he knows if he keeps skating and tries to get closer to the goalie the defense will get there faster, so he just rears back and rips a laser of a slapshot over the glove side shoulder of Clemmensen, who probably didn't see it just heard the sound of it as it passed by his ear

Good to see that Cousins seems to be improving after a kid of disappointing year for him offensively last year.

- Yosimar89


Cousins has had a really effective season. The games I have watched or attended, he's been one of their better skaters each time. It's good to see that all he needed was a bit of a learning curve and confidence to become a good AHL level player.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jan 17 @ 4:15 PM ET
Look at Edmonton, in the last 8 drafts they've selected 3rd, 7th, 1st, 1st, 1st, 10th, 6th, and 22nd. Yet they still suck, and are in position for the first overall pick again.
- MJL

They also have a hard time attracting quality free agents, don't trade to address team needs and rarely ever draft D men in the first round.
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jan 17 @ 4:16 PM ET
No...I'm serious.

Giving all 14 non playoff teams an equal shot at the top pick is not ok. At all. That could destroy franchises, simply by being unlucky.

The way it is now- inverse order of the standings, more or less, is the best way there is. Like I said- to protect parity. The 12th worst team in the league shouldn't have a shot at the best prospect in the draft. It's not even close to fair.

- Giroux_Is_God

First off some people here are rooting against the Flyers. Your not caring is a weak way of saying it as well in my opinion but take it or leave it. Does it make you less of a fan to hope your team loses to be better next year? What is happening in BUF are some fans are actively rooting against their team and saying they are the true fans because they are the ones looking to brighter days and helping the team. Secondly, I did not make any suggestions as to a solution. I pointed out a problem. You have pointed out a good problem as well, ensuring parity. So let's have a system that does both. Or does less bad. Maybe a sliding/weighted scale with regard to your last five drafts, or bottom five all have an equal chance at #1, or a system of most points earned after being eliminated, or something more clever. You're a smart guy, have at it. Anyways I'm off so I can't finish this conversation. Will be interesting tonight to see two teams struggling: go Bufalyers!
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 17 @ 4:16 PM ET
Hell, I'm one of Berube's harsher critics and even I wouldn't replace him now.

And if I was GM, I'd tell the beat guys that I was gonna keep him as coach for at least another year. Zero need to tip your hand in public, especially with this media group.

I'm amazed that they haven't turned Mason into the second coming o Cechmanek or Bryzgalov yet, because he's made statements after games about the team playing better and needing to work harder.

If Bryz said that, correct or not, he'd be strung up by the media that covers this team,

- Jsaquella


I agree, if they are going to replace Berube during the season, that time has really come and gone. The odds of the Flyers making the playoffs are remote if not impossible at this point. If they're going to make a coaching change, make it in the off season, when the available pool of coaching talent is bigger and there is more selection to choose from.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 17 @ 4:19 PM ET
They also have a hard time attracting quality free agents, don't trade to address team needs and rarely ever draft D men in the first round.
- hereticpride


There's a number of reasons why they're still struggling. My only point is that having a bunch of top picks doesn't guarantee anything. That's why I'm not rooting against the Flyers, or hoping that they'll lose to get a higher pick. I think the Flyers can get a very good player where ever they pick. I want the Flyers to play, try and win, and let the chips fall where they may.
Yosimar89
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 05.11.2010

Jan 17 @ 4:32 PM ET
Cousins has had a really effective season. The games I have watched or attended, he's been one of their better skaters each time. It's good to see that all he needed was a bit of a learning curve and confidence to become a good AHL level player.
- Jsaquella

29 points in 74 games last year, he already has 24 in 36 games this year

The guy definitely has skill, scoring 104 his last year in the OHL but those always don't translate to the pro level looks like he's finally finding his rhythm. I think he can be and hope he will be a very good 3rd line player for this team some day.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 17 @ 4:43 PM ET
29 points in 74 games last year, he already has 24 in 36 games this year

The guy definitely has skill, scoring 104 his last year in the OHL but those always don't translate to the pro level looks like he's finally finding his rhythm. I think he can be and hope he will be a very good 3rd line player for this team some day.

- Yosimar89


He's got skill and he's a feisty little bastard. He'll get under people's skin for sure. If he can do that and score 10-12 a year, it's a win win. Murray's also used him a bit on the PK and PP, so he's getting his feet wet there, too
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