My bad... I still wouldn't mind the trade though
- RobitailleFAN20

Yeah I know you would. There is no risk to LA straight up. Either you end up with a great player at maybe 0.5-1M too much money or you end up with a decent player at 3-4M too much money.

With Richards you are paying almost $6M for a 4th line center.

Hmmm, a defenseman you need or dead cap space. Tough choice.

Clarkson for Richards
- gravyface

See now this is the opposite of the Richards /Dion trade.

Toronto has to add. Richards is decent defensively and wins draws. Better skater and passer.

A 1st is not enough for me. Phaneuf can play top line minutes while Richards could end up on the bottom 6. Add the salary retained and this deal has no benefit at all. If we move for Richards then it is to free up the salary and get a great asset back or 2.

If that doesn't work for LA then I have no problem holding onto Phaneuf. Is LA ok with holding onto Richards when they are in need of defense?
- Steven_Dean

No way LA gives up another roster player if that's what you're thinking and no way does LA trade any top prospect to land Phaneuf, at least not during the season. Offseason anything can happen but obviously LA needs to trade for a Dman now

See now this is the opposite of the Richards /Dion trade.

Toronto has to add. Richards is decent defensively and wins draws. Better skater and passer.
- Bieksa#3

500K less cap hit, identical contract lengths.

No way LA gives up another roster player if that's what you're thinking and no way does LA trade any top prospect to land Phaneuf, at least not during the season. Offseason anything can happen but obviously LA needs to trade for a Dman now
- RobitailleFAN20

Richards hasn't been able to work his way up the lineup in how many seasons now?

500K less cap hit, identical contract lengths.
- gravyface

Oh I know. Clarkson is pathetic though. As I said its the equivalent of Dion for Richards.
Dion straight up for Richards makes Toronto worse with little cap savings
Richards for Clarkson makes kings worse with little cap savings
Not a kings fan but clarkson couldn't even make their line up.

Richards hasn't been able to work his way up the lineup in how many seasons now?
- gravyface

Yep

Kings have to add to get Dion for richards

I think this could be a good deal for both sides, only thing is that Dion is signed until 2022...

Richards hasn't been able to work his way up the lineup in how many seasons now?
- gravyface

Still doesn't change the fact that LA won't be trading 2 roster players during the season unless it's Nolan or possibly Clifford. I believe the Kings will make a trade involving draft picks or mid level prospects similar to what they traded to get Regher which was 2 2nds.

I'm going with "rearranging the deck chairs on the titanic" on both sides.

Still doesn't change the fact that LA won't be trading 2 roster players during the season unless it's Nolan or possibly Clifford. I believe the Kings will make a trade involving draft picks or mid level prospects similar to what they traded to get Regher which was 2 2nds.
- RobitailleFAN20

Just my opinion

RR was a depth d man. With Voynov looking like he's gone for the season, the kings need to add a top 4 to have a chance this yr. As they are set to lose a few very good players in the summer due to cap reasons.

Still doesn't change the fact that LA won't be trading 2 roster players during the season unless it's Nolan or possibly Clifford. I believe the Kings will make a trade involving draft picks or mid level prospects similar to what they traded to get Regher which was 2 2nds.
- RobitailleFAN20

If TO is trading Phaneuf, we're essentially giving up on this core (he is our #1 D, like him or not) and would want picks and/or prospects; there's nobody to take his minutes on this team.

He would look really good playing the left side with Doughty.

Don't let the anti-Leaf sentiment on here cloud your judgement. He wouldn't have to be the "man" the "Captain".

He'd be a better version of Beauchemin playing on LA.

I'm going with "rearranging the deck chairs on the titanic" on both sides.
- Aaron_85

If TO is trading Phaneuf, we're essentially giving up on this core (he is our #1 D, like him or not) and would want picks and/or prospects; there's nobody to take his minutes on this team.

He would look really good playing the left side with Doughty.

Don't let the anti-Leaf sentiment on here cloud your judgement. He wouldn't have to be the "man" the "Captain".

He'd be a better version of Beauchemin playing on LA.
- gravyface

I agree that he'd look good with DD. It would allow him to jump into play more like Letang does, while still having a good dman back to cover if play turns the other way

If TO is trading Phaneuf, we're essentially giving up on this core (he is our #1 D, like him or not) and would want picks and/or prospects; there's nobody to take his minutes on this team.

He would look really good playing the left side with Doughty.

Don't let the anti-Leaf sentiment on here cloud your judgement. He wouldn't have to be the "man" the "Captain".

He'd be a better Beauchemin playing on LA.
- gravyface

I agree with most of this. I think its hard to see Toronto getting any picks or even decent prospects without taking a bad contract back.
Something like Dion to Philly for Vinny, Sam Morin and a 2nd

I think this could be a good deal for both sides, only thing is that Dion is signed until 2022...
- znagle

And Richards until 2020.

Pav has almost more value then kessel alone he plays center a more valued position is great on faceoffs one of the best right hand drawers in the league and he scored 40 goals last year. He's just turned 30 I think so that's his only downfall.
- jake24242

This is complete bs. Kessesl is much more consistent and a better player.

Richards is instantly the best Center on the Leafs. Also I disagree with the blog that they aren't in need of centers. They desperately are.

Phaneuf in LA would actually be pretty good. He struggles here because he is a #2 at best trying to be a #1.

It would make sense, IMO
- TheThrill

You're joking, right? He's at best the 3rd centre on the Leafs.

This is complete bs. Kessesl is much more consistent and a better player.
- RogerRoeper

Pavelski is very consistant. Kessel is very hot and cold. Kessel is more dynamic. I'd say its pretty fair.

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2 less than Dion I think. Could be bought out if need be in 3 or 4.

Beside Kessel, he'd do much more than 30 points. Despite him not being the same player, he is still better than Bozak
- TheThrill

No he's not better than Bozak. He can't score anymore.

You seriously want Mike Richards as our #1 centre and give up Dion for him?

You're joking, right? He's at best the 3rd centre on the Leafs.
- RogerRoeper

I'd say 3rd is fair

Pavelski is very consistant. Kessel is very hot and cold. Kessel is more dynamic. I'd say its pretty fair.
- Bieksa#3

Kessel being "Hot and Cold" is a complete myth. He's top 10 in scoring every year! He's got the 3rd most NHl points the last 4 seasons. If he was any bit as near as "Streaky" as people claim, he would not have these stats.

Pavelski's season last year was not his norm at all.

Kessel being "Hot and Cold" is a complete myth. He's top 10 in scoring every year! He's got the 3rd most NHl points the last 4 seasons. If he was any bit as near as "Streaky" as people claim, he would not have these stats.

Pavelski's season last year was not his norm at all.
- RogerRoeper

Kessel streaky. When he doesn't score he's a liability. Pavelski is a extremely good 2 way player. Again I think its fair

Just my opinion

RR was a depth d man. With Voynov looking like he's gone for the season, the kings need to add a top 4 to have a chance this yr. As they are set to lose a few very good players in the summer due to cap reasons.
- Bieksa#3

Not just your opinion. The Kings have to do something to get a Dman, there's no doubt about that. But to get one that diminishes the roster during the season isn't the answer. That's all I'm saying. Lets say Pearson didn't get hurt, do people really think that trading Richards, Pearson, and a 1st for Phaneuf is a good trade for LA? To be clear, no one said this trade but some are hinting that just because Richards pretty much is a 3rd/4th line guy that LA has to throw in another player to counter for his lackluster play because Phaneuf is a 20+ min Dman. No doubt Phaneuf is the better player in the deal but for LA to make a trade like this would most certainly be an offseason deal. (Pearson not getting traded, I just made example)

Kessel streaky. When he doesn't score he's a liability. Pavelski is a extremely good 2 way player. Again I think its fair
- Bieksa#3

He is not. Complete myth. Kessel has been more consistent than Pavelski.

And the "Two-Way" player bit means less when Pavelski is not a first line player, yet Kessel is.

And how is Kessel a liability when he's not scoring? You've borrowed that from the media. The fact is when Kessel is not scoring, he's all over the ice making plays.

Phil Kessel=Underrated. 410 straight games played and elite offensive talent. 3rd most NHL points the last 4 years. All with Bozak as his centre.

We'll get more than Joe Pavelski, thanks.