Trade deadline thoughts. Since nobody is untouchable, I'm going to attempt to rank the players in terms of how much it would cost to trade them were I the GM. I am going to try and include prospects as well. These are all IMO and how I look at each player.

A Ton: Girgensons, Ristolainen, Reinhart

A Lot: Myers, Zadorov

Very Strong Return: Ennis (one of only two F to make a constant impact every game), Delauriers (if he is on your 4th line, your 4th line is dangerous; cheap too), Pysyk, McCabe, Armia, Grigorenko (for some reason I feel he's going to be an add on to a deal to get an impact winger when the time comes)

A Good Amount: Baptiste (lots & lots of promise), Bailey (steadily removing doubters one by one), Compher (the kind of 3C that you need when it's time to win), Ullmark (his Euro team is bad this year; still believe), Lemieux (opening eyes with every game), Neuvirth (believe he is the long term answer in net assuming he can stay healthy)

A Solid Return: Marcus Foligno (still have belief; many teams would like to add him), Flynn (costs nothing, does everything right), Carrier (bottom 6 NHL impact), Ruhwedel (underrated; ideal 6/7), Fasching (bottom 6 NHL opposite wing of Carrier), Hurley (could take a while but could be a great pick), Karabacek (wild card is making noise with constant improvement), Martin (stolen), Florentino (a steal)

Unknowns: Johansson, Possler, Olofsson (all are hidden away in Europe and two are on a very bad team)

Take The Best Return & Run: Stewart, Stafford, Meszaros, Benoit, Enroth, Weber

Virtually Impossible: Gionta (last concussion; not much gas left), Hodgson (good luck)
- kingcong39

probably pretty close. i would probably upgrade zadorov one level because he has the raw (extremely raw) size and game that murray wants, which makes him a guy hes not gonna wanna move. carrier and fasching might be moved up one level for the same reason, and bonus points because murray actually targeted them. deslauriers is probably down one level, not that murray is gonna be in any hurry to move him.

In 2007, I completed a Half Iron Man (1.25 mile swim, 56 mile bike, 13.1 mile run). I was 43.

Saturday, I huffed through 3 miles: Sunday I chose to make and eat a pot roast instead of working out.
- Der Kaiser

When do you hit the wall on one of those, my guess is halfway through the run

Trade deadline thoughts. Since nobody is untouchable, I'm going to attempt to rank the players in terms of how much it would cost to trade them were I the GM. I am going to try and include prospects as well. These are all IMO and how I look at each player.

A Ton: Girgensons, Ristolainen, Reinhart

A Lot: Myers, Zadorov

Very Strong Return: Ennis (one of only two F to make a constant impact every game), Delauriers (if he is on your 4th line, your 4th line is dangerous; cheap too), Pysyk, McCabe, Armia, Grigorenko (for some reason I feel he's going to be an add on to a deal to get an impact winger when the time comes)

A Good Amount: Baptiste (lots & lots of promise), Bailey (steadily removing doubters one by one), Compher (the kind of 3C that you need when it's time to win), Ullmark (his Euro team is bad this year; still believe), Lemieux (opening eyes with every game), Neuvirth (believe he is the long term answer in net assuming he can stay healthy)

A Solid Return: Marcus Foligno (still have belief; many teams would like to add him), Flynn (costs nothing, does everything right), Carrier (bottom 6 NHL impact), Ruhwedel (underrated; ideal 6/7), Fasching (bottom 6 NHL opposite wing of Carrier), Hurley (could take a while but could be a great pick), Karabacek (wild card is making noise with constant improvement), Martin (stolen), Florentino (a steal)

Unknowns: Johansson, Possler, Olofsson (all are hidden away in Europe and two are on a very bad team)

Take The Best Return & Run: Stewart, Stafford, Meszaros, Benoit, Enroth, Weber

Virtually Impossible: Gionta (last concussion; not much gas left), Hodgson (good luck)
- kingcong39

I agree with most of this (if not all). I would trade all your "Take the Best Return & Run" (if you can) and then Foligno, maybe Myers and Hodgson (if you can get anything decent). Where do we forward this to Murray? lol

prospects

potential draft picks
- homiedclown

Peters bashing will never be at the top of my list.. However when he makes ignorant comments about the prospect most of us hope to get i believe he becomes fair game.

Trade deadline thoughts. Since nobody is untouchable, I'm going to attempt to rank the players in terms of how much it would cost to trade them were I the GM. I am going to try and include prospects as well. These are all IMO and how I look at each player.

A Ton: Girgensons, Ristolainen, Reinhart

A Lot: Myers, Zadorov

Very Strong Return: Ennis (one of only two F to make a constant impact every game), Delauriers (if he is on your 4th line, your 4th line is dangerous; cheap too), Pysyk, McCabe, Armia, Grigorenko (for some reason I feel he's going to be an add on to a deal to get an impact winger when the time comes)

A Good Amount: Baptiste (lots & lots of promise), Bailey (steadily removing doubters one by one), Compher (the kind of 3C that you need when it's time to win), Ullmark (his Euro team is bad this year; still believe), Lemieux (opening eyes with every game), Neuvirth (believe he is the long term answer in net assuming he can stay healthy)

A Solid Return: Marcus Foligno (still have belief; many teams would like to add him), Flynn (costs nothing, does everything right), Carrier (bottom 6 NHL impact), Ruhwedel (underrated; ideal 6/7), Fasching (bottom 6 NHL opposite wing of Carrier), Hurley (could take a while but could be a great pick), Karabacek (wild card is making noise with constant improvement), Martin (stolen), Florentino (a steal)

Unknowns: Johansson, Possler, Olofsson (all are hidden away in Europe and two are on a very bad team)

Take The Best Return & Run: Stewart, Stafford, Meszaros, Benoit, Enroth, Weber

Virtually Impossible: Gionta (last concussion; not much gas left), Hodgson (good luck)
- kingcong39

Nice work Kong! Well thought out and written!

At this point it's all about Edmonton. I'd still like a little breathing room. If Edmonton can make a move to improve their roster I'd feel safer. I think the 'Canes and 'Yotes will hold serve and play .400 hockey or so for the rest of the season.

Buffalo is by far and away the worst team in the league.
- Pairo11

I think the Oilers are better than the Yotes now, even before Arizona starts dumping pieces. They are the team I'm most concerned about.

prospects

potential draft picks
- homiedclown

If they can find a way to move up i'd really like Provorov

Peters bashing will never be at the top of my list.. However when he makes ignorant comments about the prospect most of us hope to get i believe he becomes fair game.
- ieetbred

Tell me exactly what he said?

When do you hit the wall on one of those, my guess is halfway through the run
- homiedclown

I did three of 'em. The first time I hit the wall ("bonked") 2 miles into the run. It's hard to use the hammies and calfs to run after you have pretty much burned up your quads on the bike. You just gut it out.

The next two I avoided bonking. It's all blood sugar science. The amount of training that goes into it permits you to stay elevated with your cardio all day.

The challenge is making sure you keep up the blood sugar so that you can avoid going lactic too hard.

Tell me exactly what he said!
- Irish 14

IMO at some point in time im sure mcdavid had to make the "smart play" in juniors competing as a 15 year old when he wasnt head and shoulders above everyone else. So when he gets to the NHL why would he suddenly become incapable of that?

In 2007, I completed a Half Iron Man (1.25 mile swim, 56 mile bike, 13.1 mile run). I was 43.

Saturday, I huffed through 3 miles: Sunday I chose to make and eat a pot roast instead of working out.
- Der Kaiser

I started running a year ago just to lose some weight. I knocked off carb's and sugar and started running 4 times a week. I've been able to keep off 20 lbs for the year.

My problem is that I run 5 miles each session and at only a 10 minute mile pace (slow) and do NOT want to go any further.

I hate every minute of every run but it's necessary to allow me to eat what I want and still keep the weight off.

I did three of 'em. The first time I hit the wall ("bonked") 2 miles into the run. It's hard to use the hammies and calfs to run after you have pretty much burned up your quads on the bike. You just gut it out.

The next two I avoided bonking. It's all blood sugar science. The amount of training that goes into it permits you to stay elevated with your cardio all day.

The challenge is making sure you keep up the blood sugar so that you can avoid going lactic too hard.
- Der Kaiser

Curious on the bike ride hwo much is pedaling vs letting the momentum take over?

Curious on the bike ride hwo much is pedaling vs letting the momentum take over?
- hubie

Obivously, going up grades is a lot of work, and going down is a rest, but to answer your real question:

The bike's involved are pretty sophisticated machines (even the most basic ones run around $1,500 new). There's a sweet spot on the flats when you get the gearing right where your pedal cadence is generating only a few watts higher than your speed demands - you're propelling yourself forward primarily through the momentum, and your cadence is keeping your legs loose, but the extra watts just keep the momentum up.

The burn comes because you invariably have to go up a lot of grades over 56 miles, and from wind. (You can't draft in triathlon like the road racers do.)

Obivously, going up grades is a lot of work, and going down is a rest, but to answer your real question:

The bike's involved are pretty sophisticated machines (even the most basic ones run around $1,500 new). There's a sweet spot on the flats when you get the gearing right where your pedal cadence is generating only a few watts higher than your speed demands - you're propelling yourself forward primarily through the momentum, and your cadence is keeping your legs loose, but the extra watts just keep the momentum up.

The burn comes because you invariably have to go up a lot of grades over 56 miles, and from wind. (You can't draft in triathlon like the road racers do.)
- Der Kaiser

Makes perfect sense.
Dated a girl in college who ran cc. I cant imagine doing a marathon let alone a tri

Fixed.

The technology age where everyone does there jobs sitting on their asses eating donuts and getting fatter by the minute.

Yep, that's some great generation an I'M AN EXPERT ON IT. THAT'S NOT AN OPINION.

Don't forget I have 6 at home from 30- 16 just like you.

insert wink emoticon here , maybe 3 or 4 like Max would do.
- BuffaloHardHat

I was under the impression that common sense dictated that just about every statement on this board is an opinion. I don't need people to say "in my opinion" because that is and should be already understood.

And the technology age has nothing to do with it. One's job and/or technical ability, or lack thereof neither qualifies nor disqualifies anybody's statements. You don't need a very high IQ to see that others are doing things better, much better. And as a paying consumer, there's nothing wrong with demanding that your organization strives for that, whether you work in front of a computer, or clean streets for a living.

Makes perfect sense.
Dated a girl in college who ran cc. I cant imagine doing a marathon let alone a tri
- hubie

I ran a marathon two years ago. Hit the wall at about 21 miles. Ended up making it in just under 4 hours.

I started running a year ago just to lose some weight. I knocked off carb's and sugar and started running 4 times a week. I've been able to keep off 20 lbs for the year.

My problem is that I run 5 miles each session and at only a 10 minute mile pace (slow) and do NOT want to go any further.

I hate every minute of every run but it's necessary to allow me to eat what I want and still keep the weight off.
- Pairo11

I know exactly what you're talking about. I have always hated the run, too.

When I was really in shape, I could run a 5k at between a 7:00 and 7:10 pace, and could stay at 9:15 all through the half iron.

Now I'm plugging along at 9:15 through a 5k. It sucks when your head remembers what you used to do but your body can't remember how.

I ran a marathon two years ago. Hit the wall at about 21 miles. Ended up making it in just under 4 hours.
- buffalofan19

Just feel like no matter what I do I can never build the endurance.

I know exactly what you're talking about. I have always hated the run, too.

When I was really in shape, I could run a 5k at between a 7:00 and 7:10 pace, and could stay at 9:15 all through the half iron.

Now I'm plugging along at 9:15 through a 5k. It sucks when your head remembers what you used to do but your body can't remember how.
- Der Kaiser

I just don't understand how you ever get over 'the hump'. For me it's more of a boredom thing I guess. Whether I run indoors or outside I get about 2 miles in and I'm just bored to death. I get to 5 miles though and I'm just done. I feel like I could go on but just don't have any ambition to go further.

I hate it.

I was under the impression that common sense dictated that just about every statement on this board is an opinion. I don't need people to say "in my opinion" because that is and should be already understood.

And the technology age has nothing to do with it. One's job and/or technical ability, or lack thereof neither qualifies nor disqualifies anybody's statements. You don't need a very high IQ to see that others are doing things better, much better. And as a paying consumer, there's nothing wrong with demanding that your organization strives for that, whether you work in front of a computer, or clean streets for a living.
- buffalofan19

Take it easy with the vocab, professor. It's just a hockey board!

Btw: I believe hyper-technically proper grammar would demand that your organization strive for that (not strives).

I ran a marathon two years ago. Hit the wall at about 21 miles. Ended up making it in just under 4 hours.
- buffalofan19

you do know about cars, right?

you do know about cars, right?
- IndianaSabresFan

He knows about ledgers and balance sheets.

hookers and blow 2.00
53 Gunners 2.00

Myers doesn't punch people - he's soft
Myers actually punches someone for getting in the goalies crease- he's stupid


Can't win, trade him please

I started running a year ago just to lose some weight. I knocked off carb's and sugar and started running 4 times a week. I've been able to keep off 20 lbs for the year.

My problem is that I run 5 miles each session and at only a 10 minute mile pace (slow) and do NOT want to go any further.

I hate every minute of every run but it's necessary to allow me to eat what I want and still keep the weight off.
- Pairo11

this